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Anonymous
I am not but I did see it. It’s basically the same stuff that was posted on Reddit. Websleuths is strict about validating your account so that’s why the likely pulled it. (Friend of Joe did not validate the account). |
Anonymous
Is what was posted on Reddit different than what was posted here? If so, link? Or is it a locked Reddit sub now? I know none of these people, but am a long time DCUM poster and like true crime, so have followed this thread with interest. I agree with everyone who says the time lag here is not normal and so it means the police don’t see this as straightforward self-defense. That said, if this was a consensual cuckhold situation, and the murder wasn’t premeditated, either man could have snapped for whatever reason. If this proves to be premeditated (and I’m sure the police have some idea on this point based on where the weapons came from, etc), then obviously the husband is the more likely suspect. The AP calls x 2 + still being there is *very* weird and anyone not admitting that is kidding themselves. No matter how much you love a family, the average AP doesn’t not stay post a suspicious death/during an ongoing police investigation. This is only a max 2 year gig anyway! |
Anonymous
| I maintain that if the husband stabbed the wife and the second guy didn’t, it would be super obvious from the blood evidence. |
Anonymous
this among other reasons is why the case is not closed. The case remains open as the investigation continues. If the evidence showed the husband and au pair in the clear the case would be closed. It is very much open. |
Anonymous
Something off with the 13 mins between the first call and 2nd to 911 from the au pair. She obviously knew something was concerning enough to call the first time. What happened I those 13 mins? Clean up, moved bodies, gas lighting? |
Anonymous
Do you think that saying this 3x will make it more true? This will go trial and I believe “Banfield supporters” want any positive mention of Joe to be followed with questions about his character. Christine Joe and the child deserve justice. I hope more of JNRs friends and family speak out about the kind of person he was I will speak about who Joe was some. He did not own or use knives, or guns and he did not believe in violence against women. Joe Ryan was a very bright person. He loved his family, he loved his rescue dogs, he loved working out, eating healthy, following politics, and social topics, he was very liberal, believed in being environmental, loved watching documentaries, loved larping, playing video games, he loved eating sushi, he loved animals, hiking, he believed in human rights passionately, he believed in equality with race, gender, and income equality. He spoke openly and often about his strong beliefs socially and politically. He believed children and old people deserved care and respect. He took care of sick people in his life, he would be the first person to fly in or come to you if you had a surgery or got sick, and stay with you, feed you, and take care of you. He was in your corner if you needed him. He was not typical in that he didn't care about status, or the "normal" things. He was exactly the sort of non conformist that lived in ways others might not understand. If you took the time to understand him you would find he was a loving gentle person. He was funny, he was creative, he loved cartoons and animation. He liked to paint little figurines, and 3d print stuff out that were silly. He was sentimental and if you gave him a gift he might keep it for twenty years on top of his dresser. He worked many jobs over the years, he was a farmer, he worked at a homeless shelter, a life guard, helping autistic children, construction work, home care giver, bouncer, gym employee, and other jobs. he is missed greatly, when you lose someone you cared about you realize how much you really loved them. There is a little bit about him... just a tiny bit... his life was taken and those that really knew Joe know the truth... he needs justice and so does Christine. |
Anonymous
| Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out. |
Anonymous
if someone stabbed your wife and you walked in on it, after you shot the person you claim is stabbing you do not wait 13 minutes to let your wife die, unless you are the killer. It's clear to me that the 13 minute call lapse is one of the most damning pieces of evidence. Clearly it's totally suspect behavior and I believe the husband and the au pair killed both Christine, and Joe. |
Anonymous
This doesn’t make sense. If the husband had stabbed his wife and the shot guy did it, the forensics would be clear and he would have already been arrested. There’s no way to stage that in 15 minutes or whatever. There’s no way. If the dead guy stabbed and the husband shot, they still have to figure out who was where when and why in order to close the case. Which is, I imagine, very difficult to do when two are dead and one (smartly) has a lawyer. They have to figure out how they all knew each other, the nature of the relationships, is there any chance the husband conspired with the dead guy and then turned on him, etc. So it makes sense that the case is still open. |
Anonymous
I think you’re wrong. Suppose the first call is when the guy arrives, or the au pair hears arguing or whatever. Maybe she hangs up because she’s not sure or the wife tells her to. Maybe she runs to hide. Who knows? But your conclusion isn’t supported by the gap in the calls. |
Anonymous
In this country there are not a lot of forensic labs that are not overwhelmed and back logged. It can take many many months to a year. I asked investigators this exact question. If you look at other famous cases as an example the investigation stays open without alerts given out by the police so they can build an air tight case. This can take a year sometimes. The case is open because the forensics are actually NOT back at all. The case is still open. |
Anonymous
If you watched the video with the police chief he seems to differ with your opinion. It is not normal to just hang up and call 13 minutes later after you watched your wife being stabbed. I think the husband is totally guilty and the call is just one part of why I think this. |
Anonymous
Usually if you call and hang up, they call back. If you don’t answer, they come to your door. Did this not happen in this case? |
Anonymous
As stated many times, the cell phone call could not be traced. Maybe she had location services turned off. But did they try to call her back? |
Anonymous
How old was he when you worked together? |