Why do staunch republicans hate electric vehicles?

[Anonymous]

Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

That was the theory, or at least the marketing, behind the Ford Lightning. It has potential, but its a truck that starts at $63,000 and boasts a 0-60 of 4.0 seconds. That's not exactly a good combo for your small HVAC company sending out an apprentice tech.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

That was the theory, or at least the marketing, behind the Ford Lightning. It has potential, but its a truck that starts at $63,000 and boasts a 0-60 of 4.0 seconds. That's not exactly a good combo for your small HVAC company sending out an apprentice tech.

yeah, it's botched marketing, but its because they know that the true market will be like, "electric truck? why that's one of them infernal joe biden machines, no sir, in my family we buy diesel, run out of power on the jobsite and abandon our trucks that got stuck in the mud because it couldnt' tow what we needed it to tow!"

also, it's not marketing, electric trucks are genuinely giant batteries with insane torque.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

What does your whole first paragraph have to do with climate change?

[Anonymous]

Oil

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

What does your whole first paragraph have to do with climate change?

nothing. that's the point. An EV truck is objectively better. But the truck consumer market won't buy it, because they think EV's are some kind of Biden hoax to foist communism or whatever on them because climate change. It's not a rational reaction to an inherently superior product.

[Anonymous]

Last Tesla earnings report looks like Elon is continuing to piss off his core customer base.

The man is a fool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

What does your whole first paragraph have to do with climate change?

nothing. that's the point. An EV truck is objectively better. But the truck consumer market won't buy it, because they think EV's are some kind of Biden hoax to foist communism or whatever on them because climate change. It's not a rational reaction to an inherently superior product.

EV trucks are very expensive. An EV F150 is nearly 20k more expensive than a regular F150...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

What does your whole first paragraph have to do with climate change?

nothing. that's the point. An EV truck is objectively better. But the truck consumer market won't buy it, because they think EV's are some kind of Biden hoax to foist communism or whatever on them because climate change. It's not a rational reaction to an inherently superior product.

It's not objectively better. Ford is losing 30K on every EV it makes.

You plug it in and it's the same in climate change as oil. There's a smoke stack out there making energy for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

What does your whole first paragraph have to do with climate change?

nothing. that's the point. An EV truck is objectively better. But the truck consumer market won't buy it, because they think EV's are some kind of Biden hoax to foist communism or whatever on them because climate change. It's not a rational reaction to an inherently superior product.

EV trucks are very expensive. An EV F150 is nearly 20k more expensive than a regular F150...

Yes it goes no where without a heavy govt subsidy. No one buys them without bribes and inducements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last Tesla earnings report looks like Elon is continuing to piss off his core customer base.

The man is a fool.

Seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

What does your whole first paragraph have to do with climate change?

nothing. that's the point. An EV truck is objectively better. But the truck consumer market won't buy it, because they think EV's are some kind of Biden hoax to foist communism or whatever on them because climate change. It's not a rational reaction to an inherently superior product.

EV trucks are very expensive. An EV F150 is nearly 20k more expensive than a regular F150...

Yes it goes no where without a heavy govt subsidy. No one buys them without bribes and inducements.

I think it's a much bigger issue than political bias. There's cost, there's finding charging stations, the fact that charging is not low cost, takes much more time than getting gas...We rented one on vacation and it was not as great as we thought it might be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

What does your whole first paragraph have to do with climate change?

nothing. that's the point. An EV truck is objectively better. But the truck consumer market won't buy it, because they think EV's are some kind of Biden hoax to foist communism or whatever on them because climate change. It's not a rational reaction to an inherently superior product.

EV trucks are very expensive. An EV F150 is nearly 20k more expensive than a regular F150...

Sounds like we need credits back...

Also, they're better and the maintenance costs are extremely low. Not only will it tow more than a diesel, but you can't break the transmission trying to tow something. That's the real reason they don't sell more is dealers HATE them because they require virtually no service except tires and brakes. No complicated tranny, no carburetor, no fuel injection, no cylinders, no fuel and water lans, no fans or fan belts, etc. A dealership that sells a lot of EVs has to get by on it's sales profits because it won't have a service department anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

What does your whole first paragraph have to do with climate change?

nothing. that's the point. An EV truck is objectively better. But the truck consumer market won't buy it, because they think EV's are some kind of Biden hoax to foist communism or whatever on them because climate change. It's not a rational reaction to an inherently superior product.

It's not objectively better. Ford is losing 30K on every EV it makes.

You plug it in and it's the same in climate change as oil. There's a smoke stack out there making energy for it.

For the consumer, it is better. It's a better truck.

Also, it's less and less likely there's a smoke stack.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the stupid thing about Republicans and EVs... EVs make incredibly good pickups. I'm not talking about sissy CyberTrucks, I'm talking about if you're a guy—a tough guy, a GOP voting kind of guy who works on a job site—an EV F-150 or equivalent Chevy or GM, would be extremely useful... first of all, it's a giant battery, it can power all of your tools. Secondly, and most importantly, electric engines have an insane amount of torque—it's why diesel electric (a diesel engine that powers an electric engine) engines are standard on freight locomotives and marine cargo ships. They are extremely good for hauling and grinding out of a jam.

They make fantastic work trucks. But, you know, climate change isnt' real.

What does your whole first paragraph have to do with climate change?

nothing. that's the point. An EV truck is objectively better. But the truck consumer market won't buy it, because they think EV's are some kind of Biden hoax to foist communism or whatever on them because climate change. It's not a rational reaction to an inherently superior product.

The EV truck costs 50% more than an ICE truck and probably will only last half as long. Prices either need to come down or they need to figure out how to make batteries last 20+ years. You also can't get a Lightning with an 8 foot bed. Its only available in commuter configuration of 4 doors and a short bed.

So if you need the bed to do real work, want the truck to last, and don't want to pay an extra $15,000+ up front then sticking with ICE is the only way to go.