Why do staunch republicans hate electric vehicles?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone who is not a progressive hates them. No one is going to by Chinese EVs.

They will when Chinese EVs cost half of what "American" ones do.

The BYD EV cars are cute, little and cost about $10,000. They could decimate American car manufacturers.

I have very little confidence a $10K Chinese EV could meet US safety standards. Tariffs aren't the only reason Chinese vehicles aren't competitive in the US.

They do just fine on Euro NCAP. A lot has changed in five years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans do not have a problem with EVs, they have a problem with govt saying, You are going to drive one whether you like it or not.

When did the government say that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans do not have a problem with EVs, they have a problem with govt saying, You are going to drive one whether you like it or not.

When did the government say that?

On 4/18/2024 the EPA published a rule “Multi-Pollutant Emissions Standards…for model years 2027 and Later….”

This rule, part of Biden’s Executive Order 14057, would require about half of new vehicles produced to be EVs. The intention is to have all vehicles (zero emissions) to be EVs.

What this will do is force people who cannot afford these cars to drive antique vehicles, or have no vehicle at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans do not have a problem with EVs, they have a problem with govt saying, You are going to drive one whether you like it or not.

When did the government say that?

On 4/18/2024 the EPA published a rule “Multi-Pollutant Emissions Standards…for model years 2027 and Later….”

This rule, part of Biden’s Executive Order 14057, would require about half of new vehicles produced to be EVs. The intention is to have all vehicles (zero emissions) to be EVs.

What this will do is force people who cannot afford these cars to drive antique vehicles, or have no vehicle at all.

Actually it wouldn’t require any new cars to be EVs. It would just require cars to be cleaner— both to reduce smog and GHGs— but manufacturers could sell hybrids instead if they want.

EPA doesn’t think manufacturers will just sell hybrids because a number of people want EVs but that’s a different issue.

Of course the petroleum industry is mad AF at losing some of their market so they are out there lying to people about what the rule does.

[Anonymous]

Also EPA has never said the intention is to get to all EVs— that’s just more lies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans do not have a problem with EVs, they have a problem with govt saying, You are going to drive one whether you like it or not.

When did the government say that?

On 4/18/2024 the EPA published a rule “Multi-Pollutant Emissions Standards…for model years 2027 and Later….”

This rule, part of Biden’s Executive Order 14057, would require about half of new vehicles produced to be EVs. The intention is to have all vehicles (zero emissions) to be EVs.

What this will do is force people who cannot afford these cars to drive antique vehicles, or have no vehicle at all.

If you can’t afford a $20,000 EV what other car can you buy? $20,000 is the cost of a Chinese EV with 100% tariffs. Though they are building plants in Mexico which will make their cars qualify for the $7,500 tax credit without the tariffs. So new EVs will cost $2,500.

Ford has shut down their planned big EV SUV line because they are trying to make a cheap EV to compete with the Chinese cars.

[Anonymous]

Because they are not macho.

[Anonymous]

Anything the gubment pushes you need to run from..,

[Anonymous]

The problem is when you are told what you can and can’t do by an unknowing man behind the curtain. Drive EVs, don’t use gas stoves, or water heaters or whatever is next on the list.

[Anonymous]

Global EV sales up 30.5% in September as China shines, Europe recuperates
Oct 15 (Reuters) - Global sales of fully electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles rose by an annual 30.5% in September, as China surpassed its record numbers recorded in August and Europe resumed growth, market research firm Rho Motion said on Tuesday.
Gains in the U.S. market have been slow and steady in anticipation of the Nov. 5 election, which makes it difficult to predict future trends in the country, data manager Charles Lester told Reuters.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/global-ev-sales-up-305-september-china-shines-europe-recuperates-2024-10-14/

GM's EV Sales Are Booming
The automaker had a record-setting quarter with the new Chevrolet Equinox EV now GM's best-selling electric vehicle.
General Motors Q3 EV sales are up 46 percent from Q2, to 32,095.
The Chevrolet Equinox EV is now GM's best-selling electric vehicle.
Cadillac has sold over 20,000 Lyriq EV crossovers so far this year.

https://www.motor1.com/news/737512/general-motors-ev-sales-2024/

U.S. EV Sales Hit Another Record In Q3 2024: '10% Share Within Reach'
General Motors has officially become America's second-best-selling EV maker behind Tesla, pushing Hyundai Motor Group into the third spot.

Electric vehicle sales hit a new record in the U.S. in Q3, driven by attractive lease deals, financing offers and a growing appetite for affordable models among American car buyers. Despite all the political noise around EVs and negative headlines in financial papers, automakers are having a moment selling their battery-powered cars.

According to car trading and market insights firm Cox Automotive, automakers sold an estimated 346,309 EVs in the third quarter, a 5% increase from the second quarter. EVs accounted for 8.9% of the total auto sales—the highest ever on record—marking an increase from 7.8% during the same period last year.

"With improving infrastructure, far more choices, and excellent deals to be had, the team expects further growth in the months ahead," Cox Automotive analysts wrote. "A 10% share is well within reach.

https://insideevs.com/news/737158/us-ev-sales-q3-2024/

[Anonymous]

Hyundai launches new Casper Electric Premium starting at $20K, under $8K with subsidies

https://electrek.co/2024/10/17/hyundais-new-casper-electric-trim-starts-under-8k-subsidies/

IONIQ 5 Gets 13-Mo. "Ultra-Fast Lease" w/No Money Down
Hyundai is making it possible to upgrade your electric car just like you would an iPhone with a 13-month lease deal. According to a bulletin sent to dealers, the unusually short lease on the 2024 Hyundai IONIQ 5 EV offers qualified lessees a new $47,000 electric vehicle for as little as $399 a month with $0 due at signing.

The new national "Ultra-Fast Lease" program promises a way to "try before you buy" an IONIQ 5 "without significant commitment." Through October 31st, the offer features the 2024 Hyundai IONIQ 5 SE Long Range at just $399 for 13 months and $0 due at signing with no security deposit excluding applicable taxes & fees.

Hyundai says "like upgrading to the new iPhone every year, customers can now get the latest and greatest vehicle model without feeling trapped or committed to their cars for a long duration," and "provides customers the flexibility and freedom that traditional term leases don't." Most IONIQ leases are for 24 or 36 months.

https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/ioniq-5-gets-13-mo-ultra-fast-lease-w-no-money-down

Switch your car out ever year!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:EV are way more environmentally friendly when compared to gas powered cars. Gas powered cars use more energy per mile vs EV. The resources used to produce a GV pollute more and are more carbon intense per ton vs EV production. EV power source generation is a 1/10 the omissions of a GV. Finally operational costs are way less vs GV. The maintenance is basically tires and brakes, no coolant, oil changes, etc. There are just a lot less moving parts in a EV vs GS.

Once you drive an EV no one wants to go back to GV.

Someone doesnt know how lithium and other battery metals are mined, what their replacement cost is, or what happens to them after they die in 10 years. Our electrical grid couldn't even handle 50% of househould having an EV right now.


EVs are the rapidly approaching future but the bs and spin does a disservice to everyone.

Unsurprisingly that’s not supported by data. There’s just one guy and his group saying that and there’s no proof that EVs are any dirtier than the average internal combustion car, all of which also release the same brake and tire dust (the Guardian article I linked that you won’t read says they do increase road wear and tear due to their higher weight though, I’ll give you that). https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2024/feb...problem-brakes-tyres

[jsteele]

This discussion is probably better for our cars forum which already has several EV threads.