Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we should shift our focus onto Tyler’s parents who thought is was perfectly acceptable to probide their young child with machine guns rather than blaming a possibly trans roomate?

It's safe to say that his militia upbringing had a role but so did the roommate/boy-girlfriend. It's all connected and they are all internet nut jobs.

But if you prioritize the issues here, the trans roommate is the least important unless he is an accomplice. It all began with Tyler’s parents giving him machine guns obviously.

They can't be separated like that. They fed into each other. The main common denominator is the radicalization and violent rhetoric that came at this guy from two different angles.

Nope the #1 common denominator is that a radicalized person was given guns.

It's not because if it wasn't a gun then it would have been a bomb.

Sure, let’s get rid of guns first.

Zero people killed by bombs in the US last year.

>40,000 killed by gun violence.

Seems reasonable to start with guns.

Radicalization finds a way. I'm primarily concerned about the way violent and dehumanizing rhetoric has steeped into our society at the same time as the social bonds between us have broken down.

Easy access to and fetishization of guns is part of the problem but the underlying issue is the backdrop of radicalization, isolation and extreme either/or thinking.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:The trans roommate is a hero(ine) for cooperating with authorities.

Good, whatever, so can we address the actual issues here? Gun ownership and mental health?

I this case the real issue is unregulated and unfettered access to social media and online groups radicalizing young boys. They aren’t mentally ill, they have been radicalized. They are so starved to feel anything they go deeper into gore. Like the other kid in CO. He was watching snuff film.

Gun yes, but no one is talking about these groups who radicalize. We can start with Zuckerberg’s unregulated empire.

Absolutely.

The above will be crystal clear soon or if this has a trial (doubtful).

Are you denying that guns are the main issue though? Without guns these radical online groups would be just that. I mean, there will always be violence of some sort but eliminating guns should be a priority.

“Eliminating guns” is impossible and a distraction from looking for how people like this and other killers might be identified before they act. There are illicit guns in Japan, an island nation with a long history of disarming the population to make them easy to control.

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Anonymous wrote:The trans roommate is a hero(ine) for cooperating with authorities.

Good, whatever, so can we address the actual issues here? Gun ownership and mental health?

I this case the real issue is unregulated and unfettered access to social media and online groups radicalizing young boys. They aren’t mentally ill, they have been radicalized. They are so starved to feel anything they go deeper into gore. Like the other kid in CO. He was watching snuff film.

Gun yes, but no one is talking about these groups who radicalize. We can start with Zuckerberg’s unregulated empire.

Absolutely.

The above will be crystal clear soon or if this has a trial (doubtful).

Are you denying that guns are the main issue though? Without guns these radical online groups would be just that. I mean, there will always be violence of some sort but eliminating guns should be a priority.

“Eliminating guns” is impossible and a distraction from looking for how people like this and other killers might be identified before they act. There are illicit guns in Japan, an island nation with a long history of disarming the population to make them easy to control.

Please. Japan!? Have you heard of impulsivity? How about if someone identifies you as being mentally unfit?

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is so sad. Regular people trying to blame the other party for everything. This is what the millionaires want. They want us to hate each other in order for them to control us. Don’t give them that pleasure.

This is literally why Kirk was a multi-millionaire. He was a "culture war" puppet created by Zionist billionaires to keep the American masses distracted and fighting among each other.

Or he wanted people to talk out their differences and similarities. And seek understanding.

Like how non partisan college and k-12 used to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we should shift our focus onto Tyler’s parents who thought is was perfectly acceptable to probide their young child with machine guns rather than blaming a possibly trans roomate?

It's safe to say that his militia upbringing had a role but so did the roommate/boy-girlfriend. It's all connected and they are all internet nut jobs.

But if you prioritize the issues here, the trans roommate is the least important unless he is an accomplice. It all began with Tyler’s parents giving him machine guns obviously.

They can't be separated like that. They fed into each other. The main common denominator is the radicalization and violent rhetoric that came at this guy from two different angles.

Nope the #1 common denominator is that a radicalized person was given guns.

It's not because if it wasn't a gun then it would have been a bomb.

Sure, let’s get rid of guns first.

Zero people killed by bombs in the US last year.

>40,000 killed by gun violence.

Seems reasonable to start with guns.

Can you break out that 40,000 gun violence figure?

What was gang on gang, self defense, accidents, police line of duty, domestic disputes, and how many political assassination kills?

I could if I thought that was relevant.

You are free to also do research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We cannot always predict mental illness and/or impulsivity therefore guns should be banned as much as possible.

Vehicular manslaughter works better

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is so sad. Regular people trying to blame the other party for everything. This is what the millionaires want. They want us to hate each other in order for them to control us. Don’t give them that pleasure.

This is literally why Kirk was a multi-millionaire. He was a "culture war" puppet created by Zionist billionaires to keep the American masses distracted and fighting among each other.

Or he wanted people to talk out their differences and similarities. And seek understanding.

Like how non partisan college and k-12 used to be.

Oh come on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Social media is going to be the end of us. Mixed in with AI it’s coming even faster. Yes you can keep your middle and high schooler off social media if you’re willing to be an engaged parent - most are too lazy.

True that

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we should shift our focus onto Tyler’s parents who thought is was perfectly acceptable to probide their young child with machine guns rather than blaming a possibly trans roomate?

It's safe to say that his militia upbringing had a role but so did the roommate/boy-girlfriend. It's all connected and they are all internet nut jobs.

But if you prioritize the issues here, the trans roommate is the least important unless he is an accomplice. It all began with Tyler’s parents giving him machine guns obviously.

They can't be separated like that. They fed into each other. The main common denominator is the radicalization and violent rhetoric that came at this guy from two different angles.

Nope the #1 common denominator is that a radicalized person was given guns.

Or 3d print one yourself!

3D printed firearms have not reached the practical stage and seem unlikely to.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we should shift our focus onto Tyler’s parents who thought is was perfectly acceptable to probide their young child with machine guns rather than blaming a possibly trans roomate?

It's safe to say that his militia upbringing had a role but so did the roommate/boy-girlfriend. It's all connected and they are all internet nut jobs.

But if you prioritize the issues here, the trans roommate is the least important unless he is an accomplice. It all began with Tyler’s parents giving him machine guns obviously.

They can't be separated like that. They fed into each other. The main common denominator is the radicalization and violent rhetoric that came at this guy from two different angles.

Nope the #1 common denominator is that a radicalized person was given guns.

Or 3d print one yourself!

3D printed firearms have not reached the practical stage and seem unlikely to.

I mean yes, we can be defeatists and just give up, or we could come up with ways to decrease the number of guns. And make guns less attractive.

[Anonymous]

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Transgender inspired violence makes up a disproportionate percentage of these incidents.

And the Anti-Defamation League will tell you that political violence is disproportionately cause by the right. In fact, for the years 2022, 2023 and 2024, 100% of political killings were perpetrated by right-wing extremists.

It doesn't help when Trump says on TV that we need to beat the hell out of the leftists. (He said "radical leftists" but we know that means anyone to the left of him or who publicly disagrees with him).

ADF has failed miserably at its main mission since 2009 and Obama. Guess they didn’t see him coming at the Jews and Israel…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we should shift our focus onto Tyler’s parents who thought is was perfectly acceptable to probide their young child with machine guns rather than blaming a possibly trans roomate?

It's safe to say that his militia upbringing had a role but so did the roommate/boy-girlfriend. It's all connected and they are all internet nut jobs.

But if you prioritize the issues here, the trans roommate is the least important unless he is an accomplice. It all began with Tyler’s parents giving him machine guns obviously.

They can't be separated like that. They fed into each other. The main common denominator is the radicalization and violent rhetoric that came at this guy from two different angles.

Nope the #1 common denominator is that a radicalized person was given guns.

Or 3d print one yourself!

3D printed firearms have not reached the practical stage and seem unlikely to.

Then they will just launch a rabid pit bull at you from 200 yards away! See, no reason to deal with guns?!??1

[Anonymous]

Like those old driver’s ed videos we watched with bodies dangling out of mashed up metal cars, maybe we should show kids videos of the aftermath of shootings.

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Anonymous wrote:Social media is going to be the end of us. Mixed in with AI it’s coming even faster. Yes you can keep your middle and high schooler off social media if you’re willing to be an engaged parent - most are too lazy.

True that

You must have young children

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re so freaking desperate to blame everything on transgender people instead of the white boy. Everything we know shows the roommate turned in the shooter and is cooperating. It seems like the roommate did nothing wrong and is likely not at all responsible. It’s so obvious that people here hate transgender people and just want to blame them for everything.

Trans people do all the bad things. Happy now?

No one is saying this but you, pretending that someone somewhere is saying this.