Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

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I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

I just read an article that investigators are pointing to gaming and the dark internet subculture as the source of that indoctrination. Even Cox recently made that reference. It doesn’t seem unlikely that they misunderstood the nature of the radicalization early on by thinking in conventional terms (investigators probably understood). Hopefully the poster who was celebrating yesterday about wasting “350 pages” on the topic sticks around.

The governor cited Reddit as an example of the deep, dark internet. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

I get where you're coming from, but if you go full circle, Reddit is like a lounge for the freaks that live online. It isn't where they discuss assassination plots, but it is most definitely where they go to circle jerk and echo chamber. Spend any time on the DC sub and you'll quickly see you aren't one of the cool kids unless you drink the kool aid of bike lanes, mass transit, all things gay and black and on and on with all the predictables.

LOL, equating a more positive and sustainable urban built environment with the dark corners of reddit and discord.

Way to miss the point.

Nah, not missing the point. You are willfully trying to equate Nick Fuentes with "leftist" urban aims.

Way to miss the point again. If you think Tyler didn't have an active Reddit account, you are the moron, not Cox.

DP. What does that have to do with anything?

Try and keep up. Someone upstream mocked Cox's reference to Reddit. I was explaining how Reddit may not be the 'dark, deep' internet, but it most certainly is a place frequented by those that do use the deep dark internet.

That was me, the one who mocked Cox’s reference to Reddit, and I think your point is silly. People who use the “deep dark internet” also frequent the bathroom and the grocery store. Cox just sounds out of touch, like he really has no idea what goes on online.

To be fair to Cox, it is impossible to sound in touch and not crazy once furries enter the chat.

That’s the thing, though. People think the culture is broken because customer service is dead and no one says hi to their neighbors anymore. Wait til they start learning about what the kids are talking about in their online subcultures.

But all of this is totally irrelevant to the situation.

How so? If the claim is that he’s been radicalized, then presumably that’s happened online.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it particularly about White men that makes them go into these online communities? I’m not trying to start anything, I’m being genuine. There are plenty families of all races with internet and computer access so why in particular is it seemingly always White men?

Gee I don't know, does your local school or university have a club where white men can meet others like them? Is that allowed?

Yes, it’s called a fraternity. Or IT club. Any gamer club. Or pretty much any sport that requires big money like tennis, crew, fencing, lacrosse hockey, water polo, or swimming. I went to a diverse college and even with affinity groups out the wazoo it was very easy for a white male to partake in exclusively white male environments tailored to their specific interests. So easy in fact no one needed to make a special white male club.

You obviously went to college a very long time ago and are completely out of touch.

These clubs don’t exist anymore? Fraternities are gone? These sports don’t exist any more? In Utah?!

Give me a break.

Let us know the President of a fraternity is the next shooter. Or the captain of the football team. Weirdly, it's never them.

Non of this applies to Tyler Robinson as he is a clean cut, straight, extremely intelligent, independent hacker/CIA agent who was assisting Kirk.

Great, the Russian collusion bots are now experts in uncovering CIA agents. Snore

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Anonymous wrote:Not a bot.

This guy is beyond weird and belongs in a mental institution.

OR, he's very lucid, very self aware and is a "Community Agitator" with specific aims abd goals.

You know all about community agitators, don't you?

Like Turning Point?

Debating ideas = Agitating?

Tuning point was never about debating ideas. Tuning point was about formatting violence. Read the post here. The Kirk supporters want to kill all the leftists. Who are ten leftists- AOC, Bernie, Schumer, etc. plus anyone in their movement who steps out of line.

I read comments like this on this site and have to chuckle a bit. I am not surprised to read this drivel here. I am not surprised that people who frequent this site really have no understanding of Turning Point or Charlie Kirk.

And, then, I look at the video footage from weekend vigils and services. I see tens of millions of people from all over the world - the US, the UK, Australia, South Korea, and others - celebrating the life of Charlie Kirk and honoring his memory. And, these tens of millions of people know that Charlie Kirk was working to encourage discourse - something the left finds threatening. He was a Christian who believed all people are God's children. That was evident from the manner he treated other people in his debates - not personal - he simply gave his opinons and ideas. He treated people of color, gays, trans people - everyone - with respect even though he may not agree with what they said or believed.

This is yet another issue where the left - especially on this site and the far left media people - are on the 20% side of an 80/20 issue. You are never going to convince anyone of your opinions when it comes to TP or Charlie Kirk because we have thousands of hours of video that show just the opposite. Trying to take his comments out of context or blatantly lying about what he has said falls on deaf ears around the world.

And, his movement will only grow. A fitting tribute to a person who was shot by someone that Charlie Kirk *would have* welcomed debate with, had he been given the chance.

View all of his clips, not the ones edited to make him look like a nice Christian boy. He was an IRL sh*tposter. Routinely spoke over people, said nasty things to get a rise. Debated college kids and only posted the videos were he “owned” his co-debater and not the ones where he got annihilated.

And that’s the thing about the internet- you can’t bury this stuff. Nothing nasty stays buried for long. History is always being rewritten.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it particularly about White men that makes them go into these online communities? I’m not trying to start anything, I’m being genuine. There are plenty families of all races with internet and computer access so why in particular is it seemingly always White men?

Let’s see. When other cultures/races do something wrong, the white people blame genetic inferiority, cultural rot, poor parenting, and not enough God. I’d think all of those things would be equally applicable here.

White parents are just not focused on raising their white boys to be anything other than entitled little POS. Their toxic “tough it up” mindset is producing a generation of fragile little psychopaths. And parking them in front of technology because you can’t stand them isn’t helping. Spend some time with your kids FFs. Go outside and touch some grass together.

- UMC White parent of a white boy

With respect that is not what happened with this young man’s upbringing.

Unfortunately he came from a household of involved parents who seemed to love him and his siblings.

I don’t believe anyone is born evil but something went very wrong in his young adult life.

Yes, he was framed for murdering Charlie Kirk, that’s what went very wrong.

It 100% falls on his upbringing and household. These heavily religious families coupled their cult like affections towards MAGA groups lead this young adults to be heavily influenced to find the next radical community to join and be apart of. The easily fall into these groups because that’s all the know and crave that need to belong as it’s been their identity their entire lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

The worst kind of kid to have a conservative, authoritarian meathead for a Dad.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it particularly about White men that makes them go into these online communities? I’m not trying to start anything, I’m being genuine. There are plenty families of all races with internet and computer access so why in particular is it seemingly always White men?

Gee I don't know, does your local school or university have a club where white men can meet others like them? Is that allowed?

Yes, it’s called a fraternity. Or IT club. Any gamer club. Or pretty much any sport that requires big money like tennis, crew, fencing, lacrosse hockey, water polo, or swimming. I went to a diverse college and even with affinity groups out the wazoo it was very easy for a white male to partake in exclusively white male environments tailored to their specific interests. So easy in fact no one needed to make a special white male club.

You obviously went to college a very long time ago and are completely out of touch.

These clubs don’t exist anymore? Fraternities are gone? These sports don’t exist any more? In Utah?!

Give me a break.

Let us know the President of a fraternity is the next shooter. Or the captain of the football team. Weirdly, it's never them.

Non of this applies to Tyler Robinson as he is a clean cut, straight, extremely intelligent, independent hacker/CIA agent who was assisting Kirk.

Great, the Russian collusion bots are now experts in uncovering CIA agents. Snore

CIA is now full of Russians. This country is so f’ed.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it particularly about White men that makes them go into these online communities? I’m not trying to start anything, I’m being genuine. There are plenty families of all races with internet and computer access so why in particular is it seemingly always White men?

Gee I don't know, does your local school or university have a club where white men can meet others like them? Is that allowed?

Yes, it’s called a fraternity. Or IT club. Any gamer club. Or pretty much any sport that requires big money like tennis, crew, fencing, lacrosse hockey, water polo, or swimming. I went to a diverse college and even with affinity groups out the wazoo it was very easy for a white male to partake in exclusively white male environments tailored to their specific interests. So easy in fact no one needed to make a special white male club.

You obviously went to college a very long time ago and are completely out of touch.

These clubs don’t exist anymore? Fraternities are gone? These sports don’t exist any more? In Utah?!

Give me a break.

Let us know the President of a fraternity is the next shooter. Or the captain of the football team. Weirdly, it's never them.

Non of this applies to Tyler Robinson as he is a clean cut, straight, extremely intelligent, independent hacker/CIA agent who was assisting Kirk.

Great, the Russian collusion bots are now experts in uncovering CIA agents. Snore

It’s my opinion, it makes more sense than a radical leftist, Mormon, gun aficionado, gay man living in Utah with his trans lover.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

The worst kind of kid to have a conservative, authoritarian meathead for a Dad.

His LE dad may have helped him gain access to a job with the CIA.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

Wow, he could use a web browser! Watch out world.

And very book smart?! Not, book smart people don’t kill people.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a bot.

This guy is beyond weird and belongs in a mental institution.

OR, he's very lucid, very self aware and is a "Community Agitator" with specific aims abd goals.

You know all about community agitators, don't you?

Like Turning Point?

Debating ideas = Agitating?

Tuning point was never about debating ideas. Tuning point was about formatting violence. Read the post here. The Kirk supporters want to kill all the leftists. Who are ten leftists- AOC, Bernie, Schumer, etc. plus anyone in their movement who steps out of line.

I read comments like this on this site and have to chuckle a bit. I am not surprised to read this drivel here. I am not surprised that people who frequent this site really have no understanding of Turning Point or Charlie Kirk.

And, then, I look at the video footage from weekend vigils and services. I see tens of millions of people from all over the world - the US, the UK, Australia, South Korea, and others - celebrating the life of Charlie Kirk and honoring his memory. And, these tens of millions of people know that Charlie Kirk was working to encourage discourse - something the left finds threatening. He was a Christian who believed all people are God's children. That was evident from the manner he treated other people in his debates - not personal - he simply gave his opinons and ideas. He treated people of color, gays, trans people - everyone - with respect even though he may not agree with what they said or believed.

This is yet another issue where the left - especially on this site and the far left media people - are on the 20% side of an 80/20 issue. You are never going to convince anyone of your opinions when it comes to TP or Charlie Kirk because we have thousands of hours of video that show just the opposite. Trying to take his comments out of context or blatantly lying about what he has said falls on deaf ears around the world.

And, his movement will only grow. A fitting tribute to a person who was shot by someone that Charlie Kirk *would have* welcomed debate with, had he been given the chance.

View all of his clips, not the ones edited to make him look like a nice Christian boy. He was an IRL sh*tposter. Routinely spoke over people, said nasty things to get a rise. Debated college kids and only posted the videos were he “owned” his co-debater and not the ones where he got annihilated.

And that’s the thing about the internet- you can’t bury this stuff. Nothing nasty stays buried for long. History is always being rewritten.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it particularly about White men that makes them go into these online communities? I’m not trying to start anything, I’m being genuine. There are plenty families of all races with internet and computer access so why in particular is it seemingly always White men?

Gee I don't know, does your local school or university have a club where white men can meet others like them? Is that allowed?

Yes, it’s called a fraternity. Or IT club. Any gamer club. Or pretty much any sport that requires big money like tennis, crew, fencing, lacrosse hockey, water polo, or swimming. I went to a diverse college and even with affinity groups out the wazoo it was very easy for a white male to partake in exclusively white male environments tailored to their specific interests. So easy in fact no one needed to make a special white male club.

You obviously went to college a very long time ago and are completely out of touch.

These clubs don’t exist anymore? Fraternities are gone? These sports don’t exist any more? In Utah?!

Give me a break.

Let us know the President of a fraternity is the next shooter. Or the captain of the football team. Weirdly, it's never them.

I think our definition / boundary of what a normal, healthy acceptable man is is very narrow, especially in Utah, but in the West generally. It's like they're stuck in the 1950s. And the shooters are often outcasts. It seems like, if boys or men don't fit into this little narrow lane of "normal" and "successful" there, especially if they are from a family like the shooter's (cop, Republican, gun oriented) they're thrown out like the trash.

I say that as a gay family member who was casually and cruelly "thrown out like the trash" by a Republican, Western "close" family. But I'm a woman, so I turned my anger inwards. I also have a lot of friends and other family who supported me.

Now, I have no idea whatsoever whether Tyler Robinson was gay or a leftie or an outcast, or whatever. But I can certainly tell you a little about religious right MAGA culture. I can tell you that it's not accepting or kind or encouraging of sensitive sweet boys or men.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

The worst kind of kid to have a conservative, authoritarian meathead for a Dad.

His LE dad may have helped him gain access to a job with the CIA.

Hi child of a meathead LEO here. No his dad would have no CIA contacts as he was a local cop. My dad was a federal LEO and knew no one at CIA.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

Wow, he could use a web browser! Watch out world.

And very book smart?! Not, book smart people don’t kill people.

He was recruited as a hacker for an intelligence agency.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

The worst kind of kid to have a conservative, authoritarian meathead for a Dad.

His LE dad may have helped him gain access to a job with the CIA.

Hi child of a meathead LEO here. No his dad would have no CIA contacts as he was a local cop. My dad was a federal LEO and knew no one at CIA.

His dad may have had connections or maybe not. It doesn’t matter, Tyler was a hacker.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

The worst kind of kid to have a conservative, authoritarian meathead for a Dad.

His LE dad may have helped him gain access to a job with the CIA.

His dad was NOT in law enforcement. More misinformation