Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

Tyler’s parents taught him how to kill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.

[Anonymous]

It goes beyond 'passing laws'. Gun rights advocates have to start promoting responsibility, safety, and the seriousness of these weapons. They don't make you tough or manly. Leaders need to stop posing with them. There is this huge gun culture out there that prevents the shame needed towards those who misuse guns for anything but personal safety.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

I am convinced now more than ever that the left really is deranged. They have zero credibility in any of the hateful rhetoric they sputter.

[Anonymous]

I'm absolutely lovig watching all these moronic lefties lose their jobs. It's like Christmas morning

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Anonymous wrote: If he killed Kirk because Kirk wasn’t conservative enough, and he was even farther right than maga - then it would make zero sense for his closest friend and roommate, to whom he asked to assist in retrieving the murder weapon and shared plans with, would be a transperson or even a just a straight non-maga. It also makes zero sense to text the roommate what he texted him, unless the roommate already knew the plans.

There are gay and trans MAGA, you know that right? Like Nick Fuentes who this kid appeared to pay attention to.

Yes we know, this is a violence and radicalization issue.
Kirk talks even on Christianity don’t attack trans, he was supportive of all of them and forthright on his values as a Christian, conservative, patriot, constitutionalist.

except MAGA is already taking it out on the LGBTQ+ community and made that clear from the first moments after Kirk's death was announced

Where is this happening?
Where is the “taking it out” happening and how??

I see more LGBTQIA upset about the shooting and death. Kirk has many trans and gay friend and supporters, as he was not threatened by them or their personal choices. He still knew what theology and the Bible said, but he didn’t force it anywhere.

So what I’m hearing is that associating with trans people does not make one left wing by default, is that correct?

That’s been true in all the cities and states I’ve lived in. That’s said there are not a ton of trans people to run into unless you’re at a special event for them or something.

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Anonymous wrote:The governor has confirmed the shooter was in a romantic relationship with the transgender “roommate”.

Gov walked that back on the Sunday shows.

Check out the interview with Gov. Cox this morning on CNM.

“Deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology”

“The roommate was a romantic partner, a male transitioning to female”

https://www.cnn.com/shows/state-of-the-union

Take from that what you will.

The trans roommate luva, whatever did not introduce him to guns. The parents did, decades ago.

What law would have kept the murder weapon out of the hands of a former honors student with no mental health or criminal records?

You are missing the point. The GOP/MAGA are trying to BLAME this shooting on trans people and "leftists". Everything about this kids life points to years of indoctrination by the right. Lifetime of gun culture. That and the gamer/internet meme culture. But you will try to pin it on the roommate to cover for the vile culture you want to defend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

Correct
Leftist and liked D.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

Are you sure about that. The alt-alt right seems like they do.

Sad there are so many groups that hate this guy it’s impossible to pin it on one group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.

His parents turned him in. They saved lives, fool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

I am convinced now more than ever that the right really is deranged. They have zero credibility in any of the hateful rhetoric they sputter.

FTFY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm absolutely lovig watching all these moronic lefties lose their jobs. It's like Christmas morning

I’m getting a few laughs out of it too. Made today just a little brighter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Like those old driver’s ed videos we watched with bodies dangling out of mashed up metal cars, maybe we should show kids videos of the aftermath of shootings.

Not kids but MAGA and gun nuts.

No kids too, make them take a class for a semester and drill the horrors of gun violence into their heads, no pun intended.

Make the kids live through a virtual shooting, as both as a victim and the shooter. Meet with shooting victims, and how it changed their lives. Go spend a night or two in federal prison.

Those are all horrible ideas. The goal is to avoid PTSD not preemptively inflict it.

Sorry, I forgot we are dealing with sensitive snowflakes. Somehow we lived through horrific videos of decapitated bodies flung out onto roads, limbs scattered about, all while juniors in high school. It did make me appreciate the importance of seatbelts. Would the kids prefer the real life scenario?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?

Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.

His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.

His parents turned him in. They saved lives, fool.

Not Charlie’s life

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we should shift our focus onto Tyler’s parents who thought is was perfectly acceptable to probide their young child with machine guns rather than blaming a possibly trans roomate?

It's safe to say that his militia upbringing had a role but so did the roommate/boy-girlfriend. It's all connected and they are all internet nut jobs.

But if you prioritize the issues here, the trans roommate is the least important unless he is an accomplice. It all began with Tyler’s parents giving him machine guns obviously.

They can't be separated like that. They fed into each other. The main common denominator is the radicalization and violent rhetoric that came at this guy from two different angles.

Nope the #1 common denominator is that a radicalized person was given guns.

It's not because if it wasn't a gun then it would have been a bomb.

Sure, let’s get rid of guns first.

Zero people killed by bombs in the US last year.

>40,000 killed by gun violence.

Seems reasonable to start with guns.

Can you break out that 40,000 gun violence figure?

What was gang on gang, self defense, accidents, police line of duty, domestic disputes, and how many political assassination kills?

I could if I thought that was relevant.

You are free to also do research.

FBI gun killing stats are pretty robust
>75% gang on gang,
5% self defense,
1% accidents,
8% police line of duty,
3% mass shooting of over 1 person/ non gang;
5%+ self defense /domestic disputes,

and how many political assassination kills?
<0.01%

lol. I won’t even bother doing a real analysis. Please note, though, gang-related homicides does not mean gang on gang. It includes innocents.

Here’s the chat GPT
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Your breakdown of U.S. gun deaths by type contains several inaccuracies. Here’s a corrected and evidence-based breakdown:

🔍 Breakdown of U.S. Gun Deaths (2023)

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in 2023, there were 46,728 firearm-related deaths in the United States. The distribution was as follows:
• Suicides: Approximately 58% (27,300 deaths)
• Homicides: Around 38% (17,927 deaths)
• Unintentional (Accidental) Shootings: About 1% (463 deaths)
• Law Enforcement-Involved Shootings: Approximately 604 deaths
• Undetermined Circumstances: Around 434 deaths 

❌ Debunking Your Breakdown
• 75% Gang-on-Gang: This figure is significantly overstated. Studies indicate that gang-related homicides account for about 13% of all homicides annually .
• 5% Self-Defense: Self-defense gun use is extremely rare. Research suggests that defensive gun uses by private citizens are infrequent and not a common justification for firearm possession .
• 1% Accidents: This is approximately accurate. Unintentional firearm deaths accounted for about 1% of all gun-related deaths in 2023 .
• 8% Police Line of Duty: This is an overestimation. Law enforcement officers were involved in approximately 604 deaths in 2023, which is a small fraction of the total gun deaths .
• 3% Mass Shootings (Over 1 Person/Non-Gang): Mass shootings, typically defined as incidents where four or more people are killed, account for less than 0.5% of all homicides in the United States .
• 5%+ Self-Defense/Domestic Disputes: While domestic disputes are a significant context for homicides, self-defense situations are rare. The percentage of gun deaths resulting from domestic disputes varies, but self-defense incidents are not a major contributor to gun-related deaths

Your estimates significantly overstate certain categories, particularly gang-related deaths and self-defense incidents. The majority of gun deaths in the U.S. are suicides, followed by homicides, with much smaller proportions resulting from accidents, law enforcement actions, and mass shootings.