The lawsuit against Royal Caribbean/toddler death

[Anonymous]

No way to know if charges were plead down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Court records show that Sam has multiple tickets for speeding and failure to wear a seat belt. It is not clear that any of the charges involved DUI.

Maybe you should just give it a rest. The guy was really, really stupid and really, really, almost unbelievably reckless. Not sure why you’re obsessed with blaming this on alcohol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No way to know if charges were plead down.

So you’re making sh!t up. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Court records show that Sam has multiple tickets for speeding and failure to wear a seat belt. It is not clear that any of the charges involved DUI.

Maybe you should just give it a rest. The guy was really, really stupid and really, really, almost unbelievably reckless. Not sure why you’re obsessed with blaming this on alcohol.

Why are you obsessed with claiming it has nothing to do with it? Were you there?

He is a ROUGH looking 51 and few completely sober adults would lift a baby over a guard rail and out an open window - "playing games" was the quote from staff on site.

[Anonymous]

The family has asserted things that are patently untrue, such that the tragedy occurred in a children's play area. Photos show that is blatantly untrue, she fell or was dropped from a window next to a bar. The parents advised him not to take a breathalyzer. His actions were bizarre, booze cannot be ruled out, esp when you connect the dots. Perhaps prescription meds? It will all come out in the criminal and civil suits, I imagine. Ships track alcohol consumption and there were many witnesses.

If you are a parent who is super sensitive about alcohol due to anxiety about the care your kids get when you are drinking, please seek help. If you are anxious about leaving your kids in the care of impaired adults, heed those feelings and keep them safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The family has asserted things that are patently untrue, such that the tragedy occurred in a children's play area. Photos show that is blatantly untrue, she fell or was dropped from a window next to a bar. The parents advised him not to take a breathalyzer. His actions were bizarre, booze cannot be ruled out, esp when you connect the dots. Perhaps prescription meds? It will all come out in the criminal and civil suits, I imagine. Ships track alcohol consumption and there were many witnesses.

If you are a parent who is super sensitive about alcohol due to anxiety about the care your kids get when you are drinking, please seek help. If you are anxious about leaving your kids in the care of impaired adults, heed those feelings and keep them safe.

Which article says this?

[Anonymous]

If there was ever a story that needs to go away as soon as possible.........

[Anonymous]

I have never cruised so found this thread interesting.

https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/boards/index.php?/topic/13919-freedom-of-the-seas-fatality/page/1/

[Anonymous]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7935033/Parents-toddler-dropped-death-Royal-Caribbean-ship-beg-Puerto-Rico-end-case.html

'We have never wanted charges filed against Sam because we know with all of our hearts that he would never put Chloe in harm's way.

'We will stand with Sam as long as it takes - but we cannot grieve as a family until the criminal charges are dropped.'

What they mean to say is that they can't grieve as a family until RCI gives them money. And Sam objectively put Chloe in harms way. But for his actions, she'd be here today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7935033/Parents-toddler-dropped-death-Royal-Caribbean-ship-beg-Puerto-Rico-end-case.html

'We have never wanted charges filed against Sam because we know with all of our hearts that he would never put Chloe in harm's way.

'We will stand with Sam as long as it takes - but we cannot grieve as a family until the criminal charges are dropped.'

What they mean to say is that they can't grieve as a family until RCI gives them money. And Sam objectively put Chloe in harms way. But for his actions, she'd be here today.

I guess they haven't watched the video????

If they had, they would know with their eyes that he did, in fact, put Chloe in harms way.

[Anonymous]

I am still baffled by the reaction of the parents to circle so strongly around a man, who, in fact, killed their baby. He married the grandmother in recent years and was not a part of raising the mom. Why cleave to him so strongly and immediately? The ship staff separated them as a matter of course right after the event, some parents might have physically or at least verbally attacked someone who had just dropped their baby 11 stories onto concrete. I just do not get it. The focus on CHLOE as the victim has become step-grandfather/baby killer as the victim and it seems to erase her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am still baffled by the reaction of the parents to circle so strongly around a man, who, in fact, killed their baby. He married the grandmother in recent years and was not a part of raising the mom. Why cleave to him so strongly and immediately? The ship staff separated them as a matter of course right after the event, some parents might have physically or at least verbally attacked someone who had just dropped their baby 11 stories onto concrete. I just do not get it. The focus on CHLOE as the victim has become step-grandfather/baby killer as the victim and it seems to erase her.

Yes, this is incredibly bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am still baffled by the reaction of the parents to circle so strongly around a man, who, in fact, killed their baby. He married the grandmother in recent years and was not a part of raising the mom. Why cleave to him so strongly and immediately? The ship staff separated them as a matter of course right after the event, some parents might have physically or at least verbally attacked someone who had just dropped their baby 11 stories onto concrete. I just do not get it. The focus on CHLOE as the victim has become step-grandfather/baby killer as the victim and it seems to erase her.

Yes, this is incredibly bizarre.

I find their reaction incredibly strange, too. If anyone, even my own mother whom I know adores my kids beyond a shadow of a doubt, dropped my baby out a window like that I doubt that I would be able to rush to defend her, simply because that is something that You.Do.Not.Do. Ever.

What this man did is simply unfathomable and completely indefensible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am still baffled by the reaction of the parents to circle so strongly around a man, who, in fact, killed their baby. He married the grandmother in recent years and was not a part of raising the mom. Why cleave to him so strongly and immediately? The ship staff separated them as a matter of course right after the event, some parents might have physically or at least verbally attacked someone who had just dropped their baby 11 stories onto concrete. I just do not get it. The focus on CHLOE as the victim has become step-grandfather/baby killer as the victim and it seems to erase her.

Yes, this is incredibly bizarre.

I find their reaction incredibly strange, too. If anyone, even my own mother whom I know adores my kids beyond a shadow of a doubt, dropped my baby out a window like that I doubt that I would be able to rush to defend her, simply because that is something that You.Do.Not.Do. Ever.

What this man did is simply unfathomable and completely indefensible.

Maybe he’s Grandma’s Mr. Wonderful and Grandma has money? This happened in two families I knew. The children and grandchildren all tolerated everything the new stepdad did because the mom would have cut them out of her will otherwise. It was gross to watch.

[Anonymous]

The longer they maintain their lawsuit against the cruise line and defend the "elderly colorblind grandpa," the more I imagine this might have been intentional/planned....