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If I give the benefit of doubt and discount sock puppeting, then you have the exact same problem with reading comprehension and blindness with trans-obsession that she does. I repeat: On this thread, I have consistently said from the start that they should be housed separately. |
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So the couple of conservatives who are posting on this thread are only reinforcing their own shallow two dimensionality, by prioritizing this small handful of issues, like being anti-abortion and anti-trans. And I find that sad because real life is a lot more complex than that and there is a whole lot more at stake in America to motivate women than worrying about someone else's pregnancy or what's between someone else's legs.
It's also misleading to say they are pro-life because the fact is, Republicans don't give a damn about the life of the mother as long as she brings the baby to term, and don't give a damn about that baby once it's born. |
You are responding to more than one person. I have no debunked claims because I’m a different poster. Hard to fathom, I’m sure. That denial is what’s created the current climate and what will slap Dems in the face. I’m wrong and you’re right and therefore there can’t be more who think like me, is that it? |
It’s like you are incapable of understanding that Republicans can be pro life or are comfortable with the abortion laws currently in their state and will be voting on other issues. Natural miscarriages have literally nothing to do with abortion so I’m not sure why that’s even being brought up. |
Agreed. I am fine with abortion being decided at the state level. |
Apparently your reading comprehension skills aren’t as developed as your self-righteous indignation. Abortion and women’s sex-based rights have been mentioned, but so have many other issues which you ignore. |
Some have rights while others don't? How does that work? |
You have the right to smoke weed in some and not others. You have the right to go to the casino in some states and not others. You have the right to pay a poor woman to gestate your child in some states and not others. You have the right to seek assistance in killing yourself in some states and not others. |
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You have the right to bleed out and go septic in republican run states.
1 million women a year have a miscarriage. Some of them will need abortion services to save their lives and future fertility. We are seeing how dangerous it has become to be pregnant in red states. They want that for women in blue states too. |
Ideally natural miscarriages would have nothing to do with abortion, but that's not the case in some states: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/11/15/1135882310/miscarriage-hemorrhage-abortion-law-ohio |
Great. If all Democrats were like you and kept men out of women’s prisons, locker rooms, and sports, then this wouldn’t be an issue. But it is. They have decided to prioritize the rights of a very small number of men over women. And women are tired of it. |
You are conveniently ignoring the right to die, which is indeed different across states. |
DP I’m not the PP but here is what you and many other Democrats do not get about your constant dismissal of issues related to trans rights and the superseding of women’s rights. The constant response is exactly like what you wrote above, where the instances where women are victimized are picked apart as rarities, and presented in isolation. Oh, only a few women are raped in prison by transwomen. Oh, only a few of your daughters lose to trans girls in sports, and why do your daughters even have ambition in sport anyhow? They should be happy to let boys win; that’s “being kind” anyhow and sports ambition in girls is ugly. Oh, transwomen just want to pee and only a few male predators will take advantage of the new inability to remove creepy men from restrooms. Oh, the transwomen sending rape threats to JK Rowling and other women who stand up for women’s rights are rare and they are autistic anyhow so you should be kind and understand that their rape threats are acceptable because they struggle emotionally. Oh, you should be happy being referred to as an “front hole,” because that’s more inclusive. And so on, across individual events and issues. You don’t understand that many, many women don’t view and won’t view all these events in isolation. They see this as a constellation, all these indicators of how Democrats value women and girls. You want to minimize into discrete events precisely so you can hide the overall picture. But women are too smart for that. In the end, this is where we are: The Democrats see women as public emotional support animals for men and boys. The Republicans see women as private reproductive chattel. We are living Andrea Dworkin’s observation that conservative men see women as private property and liberal men see women as public property. So, if both parties equally dehumanize women, women voters who choose to still participate in the political system are going to probably start voting for other reasons: education, immigration, crime, etc. They are also going to start disassociating with either party (which is already happening; women are increasingly registering as independent). You can scream at them about how they are wrong and you are right, you can gaslight them and insult them, you can use racist and sexist words to describe women who pick a different path than you, but none of that will (a) work to change minds and (b) matter at all. |
Also not equivalent to forced birth. Having been through several long terminal illness journeys with loved ones, I think I believe that this right should also be held by every person. I am not as knowledge about this issue as I am about all the different aspects of pregnancy and birth. You believe that should be a state issue? |