Taylor Swift is awful (and her music isn't even very good)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If what the last poster or posters are saying is true, I just don’t get why Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, and so on - some of the most talented and successful artists ever - have gushed about her. McCartney has collaborated with her and they did an interview together about writing songs during the pandemic that must have taken hours considering the length of their discussion.

And then, of course, there are multiple colleges offering courses about Taylor Swift, her music and lyrics, with one professor even comparing her style to Wordsworth.

IDK. I am not a music connoisseur. I just know what I like, but there’s gotta be something there.

All the very talented musicians you named are very old. They just want to stay young and current. Taylor is that in their eyes, not talented, but hot and modern. Paul McCartney as he was in the Beatles wouldn’t have been caught dead collaborating with someone as mediocre as Taylor Swift. But Paul pushing 80 wants to stay hip. Aging sucks!

[Anonymous]

Taylor kind of reminds me of Garth Brooks- he is a good singer but not a GREAT singer, BUT is an INCREDIBLE performer!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what the last poster or posters are saying is true, I just don’t get why Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, and so on - some of the most talented and successful artists ever - have gushed about her. McCartney has collaborated with her and they did an interview together about writing songs during the pandemic that must have taken hours considering the length of their discussion.

And then, of course, there are multiple colleges offering courses about Taylor Swift, her music and lyrics, with one professor even comparing her style to Wordsworth.

IDK. I am not a music connoisseur. I just know what I like, but there’s gotta be something there.

For some people. Not for all.

I think she writes a lyric that may be poetry to some, but then she adds a melody or notes to fit the lyric. She doesn’t write a beautiful song with melodies and harmony and design the lyrics to match.

I find her lyrics to be too literal and not subject to interpretation to the listener. They don’t give imagery that can be interpreted in multiple ways other than who she is singing to. She doesn’t write about topics other than feelings. Many people write about the universality of feeling, the human connections, natural/spiritual connections, or social protest songs that eclipse the life of the writer. She doesn’t, the songs always come down to her feelings about something that happened to her. I don’t like that. Clearly, many do.

This captured something I felt but could never have expressed. To me one of the reasons her music has stayed immature is that she continues to write from a kind of teenage perspective, where her perspective and experience are paramount. Even though she's in her 30s, her music still has this perspective.

I really do think that part of the problem is that Swift works too much, tours too much, records to much, and doesn't live enough. I think she's personally stunted because she's so career focused. I'm not saying she needs to go get married and have a baby, I don't care if she ever does those things. But I think it's hard to evolve as a person when you working as much as she does, and in such a public-focused way. I honestly think she's too focused on and invested in her fan base to ever create transformative art, because she'd need to be willing to to upset her fan base in order to give them something other than what they want or expect.

A lot of artists take big breaks from the grind of producing and then touring music, to travel, focus on families, or just live life. I think this is healthy and I think it helps make them more complete people. Taylor does not do this and I think it's why her music continues to sound like it was written like a very precocious and talented teenager.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what the last poster or posters are saying is true, I just don’t get why Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, and so on - some of the most talented and successful artists ever - have gushed about her. McCartney has collaborated with her and they did an interview together about writing songs during the pandemic that must have taken hours considering the length of their discussion.

And then, of course, there are multiple colleges offering courses about Taylor Swift, her music and lyrics, with one professor even comparing her style to Wordsworth.

IDK. I am not a music connoisseur. I just know what I like, but there’s gotta be something there.

For some people. Not for all.

I think she writes a lyric that may be poetry to some, but then she adds a melody or notes to fit the lyric. She doesn’t write a beautiful song with melodies and harmony and design the lyrics to match.

I find her lyrics to be too literal and not subject to interpretation to the listener. They don’t give imagery that can be interpreted in multiple ways other than who she is singing to. She doesn’t write about topics other than feelings. Many people write about the universality of feeling, the human connections, natural/spiritual connections, or social protest songs that eclipse the life of the writer. She doesn’t, the songs always come down to her feelings about something that happened to her. I don’t like that. Clearly, many do.

This captured something I felt but could never have expressed. To me one of the reasons her music has stayed immature is that she continues to write from a kind of teenage perspective, where her perspective and experience are paramount. Even though she's in her 30s, her music still has this perspective.

I really do think that part of the problem is that Swift works too much, tours too much, records to much, and doesn't live enough. I think she's personally stunted because she's so career focused. I'm not saying she needs to go get married and have a baby, I don't care if she ever does those things. But I think it's hard to evolve as a person when you working as much as she does, and in such a public-focused way. I honestly think she's too focused on and invested in her fan base to ever create transformative art, because she'd need to be willing to to upset her fan base in order to give them something other than what they want or expect.

A lot of artists take big breaks from the grind of producing and then touring music, to travel, focus on families, or just live life. I think this is healthy and I think it helps make them more complete people. Taylor does not do this and I think it's why her music continues to sound like it was written like a very precocious and talented teenager.

She has lived. She took a big break after the Kanye thing and then came out with Reputation. She sheltered like all of us during covid and came out with 2 different and great albums. She takes long breaks in between legs of the eras tour and is discovering football

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what the last poster or posters are saying is true, I just don’t get why Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, and so on - some of the most talented and successful artists ever - have gushed about her. McCartney has collaborated with her and they did an interview together about writing songs during the pandemic that must have taken hours considering the length of their discussion.

And then, of course, there are multiple colleges offering courses about Taylor Swift, her music and lyrics, with one professor even comparing her style to Wordsworth.

IDK. I am not a music connoisseur. I just know what I like, but there’s gotta be something there.

For some people. Not for all.

I think she writes a lyric that may be poetry to some, but then she adds a melody or notes to fit the lyric. She doesn’t write a beautiful song with melodies and harmony and design the lyrics to match.

I find her lyrics to be too literal and not subject to interpretation to the listener. They don’t give imagery that can be interpreted in multiple ways other than who she is singing to. She doesn’t write about topics other than feelings. Many people write about the universality of feeling, the human connections, natural/spiritual connections, or social protest songs that eclipse the life of the writer. She doesn’t, the songs always come down to her feelings about something that happened to her. I don’t like that. Clearly, many do.

This captured something I felt but could never have expressed. To me one of the reasons her music has stayed immature is that she continues to write from a kind of teenage perspective, where her perspective and experience are paramount. Even though she's in her 30s, her music still has this perspective.

I really do think that part of the problem is that Swift works too much, tours too much, records to much, and doesn't live enough. I think she's personally stunted because she's so career focused. I'm not saying she needs to go get married and have a baby, I don't care if she ever does those things. But I think it's hard to evolve as a person when you working as much as she does, and in such a public-focused way. I honestly think she's too focused on and invested in her fan base to ever create transformative art, because she'd need to be willing to to upset her fan base in order to give them something other than what they want or expect.

A lot of artists take big breaks from the grind of producing and then touring music, to travel, focus on families, or just live life. I think this is healthy and I think it helps make them more complete people. Taylor does not do this and I think it's why her music continues to sound like it was written like a very precocious and talented teenager.

She has lived. She took a big break after the Kanye thing and then came out with Reputation. She sheltered like all of us during covid and came out with 2 different and great albums. She takes long breaks in between legs of the eras tour and is discovering football

She isn’t taking breaks in touring to live, she is in a studio writing music and getting albums ready to launch. That isn’t a break.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what the last poster or posters are saying is true, I just don’t get why Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, and so on - some of the most talented and successful artists ever - have gushed about her. McCartney has collaborated with her and they did an interview together about writing songs during the pandemic that must have taken hours considering the length of their discussion.

And then, of course, there are multiple colleges offering courses about Taylor Swift, her music and lyrics, with one professor even comparing her style to Wordsworth.

IDK. I am not a music connoisseur. I just know what I like, but there’s gotta be something there.

For some people. Not for all.

I think she writes a lyric that may be poetry to some, but then she adds a melody or notes to fit the lyric. She doesn’t write a beautiful song with melodies and harmony and design the lyrics to match.

I find her lyrics to be too literal and not subject to interpretation to the listener. They don’t give imagery that can be interpreted in multiple ways other than who she is singing to. She doesn’t write about topics other than feelings. Many people write about the universality of feeling, the human connections, natural/spiritual connections, or social protest songs that eclipse the life of the writer. She doesn’t, the songs always come down to her feelings about something that happened to her. I don’t like that. Clearly, many do.

This captured something I felt but could never have expressed. To me one of the reasons her music has stayed immature is that she continues to write from a kind of teenage perspective, where her perspective and experience are paramount. Even though she's in her 30s, her music still has this perspective.

I really do think that part of the problem is that Swift works too much, tours too much, records to much, and doesn't live enough. I think she's personally stunted because she's so career focused. I'm not saying she needs to go get married and have a baby, I don't care if she ever does those things. But I think it's hard to evolve as a person when you working as much as she does, and in such a public-focused way. I honestly think she's too focused on and invested in her fan base to ever create transformative art, because she'd need to be willing to to upset her fan base in order to give them something other than what they want or expect.

A lot of artists take big breaks from the grind of producing and then touring music, to travel, focus on families, or just live life. I think this is healthy and I think it helps make them more complete people. Taylor does not do this and I think it's why her music continues to sound like it was written like a very precocious and talented teenager.

She has lived. She took a big break after the Kanye thing and then came out with Reputation. She sheltered like all of us during covid and came out with 2 different and great albums. She takes long breaks in between legs of the eras tour and is discovering football

She isn’t taking breaks in touring to live, she is in a studio writing music and getting albums ready to launch. That isn’t a break.

+1, she's grinding. She released TWO albums in 2020. That's not taking a break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what the last poster or posters are saying is true, I just don’t get why Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, and so on - some of the most talented and successful artists ever - have gushed about her. McCartney has collaborated with her and they did an interview together about writing songs during the pandemic that must have taken hours considering the length of their discussion.

And then, of course, there are multiple colleges offering courses about Taylor Swift, her music and lyrics, with one professor even comparing her style to Wordsworth.

IDK. I am not a music connoisseur. I just know what I like, but there’s gotta be something there.

For some people. Not for all.

I think she writes a lyric that may be poetry to some, but then she adds a melody or notes to fit the lyric. She doesn’t write a beautiful song with melodies and harmony and design the lyrics to match.

I find her lyrics to be too literal and not subject to interpretation to the listener. They don’t give imagery that can be interpreted in multiple ways other than who she is singing to. She doesn’t write about topics other than feelings. Many people write about the universality of feeling, the human connections, natural/spiritual connections, or social protest songs that eclipse the life of the writer. She doesn’t, the songs always come down to her feelings about something that happened to her. I don’t like that. Clearly, many do.

This captured something I felt but could never have expressed. To me one of the reasons her music has stayed immature is that she continues to write from a kind of teenage perspective, where her perspective and experience are paramount. Even though she's in her 30s, her music still has this perspective.

I really do think that part of the problem is that Swift works too much, tours too much, records to much, and doesn't live enough. I think she's personally stunted because she's so career focused. I'm not saying she needs to go get married and have a baby, I don't care if she ever does those things. But I think it's hard to evolve as a person when you working as much as she does, and in such a public-focused way. I honestly think she's too focused on and invested in her fan base to ever create transformative art, because she'd need to be willing to to upset her fan base in order to give them something other than what they want or expect.

A lot of artists take big breaks from the grind of producing and then touring music, to travel, focus on families, or just live life. I think this is healthy and I think it helps make them more complete people. Taylor does not do this and I think it's why her music continues to sound like it was written like a very precocious and talented teenager.

She has lived. She took a big break after the Kanye thing and then came out with Reputation. She sheltered like all of us during covid and came out with 2 different and great albums. She takes long breaks in between legs of the eras tour and is discovering football

Hmmm. I think her newer albums (Rep onward) have shown a lot of growth and maturity, especially Evermore. And not sure what you mean by her perspective and experience being 'paramount'.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what the last poster or posters are saying is true, I just don’t get why Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, and so on - some of the most talented and successful artists ever - have gushed about her. McCartney has collaborated with her and they did an interview together about writing songs during the pandemic that must have taken hours considering the length of their discussion.

And then, of course, there are multiple colleges offering courses about Taylor Swift, her music and lyrics, with one professor even comparing her style to Wordsworth.

IDK. I am not a music connoisseur. I just know what I like, but there’s gotta be something there.

For some people. Not for all.

I think she writes a lyric that may be poetry to some, but then she adds a melody or notes to fit the lyric. She doesn’t write a beautiful song with melodies and harmony and design the lyrics to match.

I find her lyrics to be too literal and not subject to interpretation to the listener. They don’t give imagery that can be interpreted in multiple ways other than who she is singing to. She doesn’t write about topics other than feelings. Many people write about the universality of feeling, the human connections, natural/spiritual connections, or social protest songs that eclipse the life of the writer. She doesn’t, the songs always come down to her feelings about something that happened to her. I don’t like that. Clearly, many do.

This captured something I felt but could never have expressed. To me one of the reasons her music has stayed immature is that she continues to write from a kind of teenage perspective, where her perspective and experience are paramount. Even though she's in her 30s, her music still has this perspective.

I really do think that part of the problem is that Swift works too much, tours too much, records to much, and doesn't live enough. I think she's personally stunted because she's so career focused. I'm not saying she needs to go get married and have a baby, I don't care if she ever does those things. But I think it's hard to evolve as a person when you working as much as she does, and in such a public-focused way. I honestly think she's too focused on and invested in her fan base to ever create transformative art, because she'd need to be willing to to upset her fan base in order to give them something other than what they want or expect.

A lot of artists take big breaks from the grind of producing and then touring music, to travel, focus on families, or just live life. I think this is healthy and I think it helps make them more complete people. Taylor does not do this and I think it's why her music continues to sound like it was written like a very precocious and talented teenager.

She has lived. She took a big break after the Kanye thing and then came out with Reputation. She sheltered like all of us during covid and came out with 2 different and great albums. She takes long breaks in between legs of the eras tour and is discovering football

She isn’t taking breaks in touring to live, she is in a studio writing music and getting albums ready to launch. That isn’t a break.

+1, she's grinding. She released TWO albums in 2020. That's not taking a break.

To be fair, I think this stuff just pours out of her. She was frustrated not being able to tour in 2020 so she wrote and released.

[Anonymous]

Not only are her lyrics perpetually self-focused, they are also increasingly inauthentic as she continues to write songs as though she is a perpetually unlucky-in-love, middle class, millennial woman starring in a 90s rom com. She writes from the perspective of her fans, not from her own lived experience, and it shows:

(from "Paris" on Midnights, 2022): "Stumbled down pretend alleys, cheap wine, make believe it's champagne, I was taken by the view."

When was the last time Taylor Swift ran around with a guy drinking cheap wine and pretending it was champagne, and was "taken" by the view in a city like Paris? When she wrote this song, she was a multi-millionaire juggernaut with a host of Grammy's, a massive portfolio of homes, had been to Paris many times. When has Swift EVER had to drink cheap wine on a date? She dates successful musicians, actors, and athletes and is herself wealthy and successful.

It just doesn't ring true. It feels like what you write when you are intentionally trying to evoke a moment that the typical 30 year old, middle class, woman will relate to. But it's not real for her.

I don't understand what the point is for her to writing songs like this. I don't believe that came from her heart or was ripped from her actual journal. It feels like a calculated piece of fan service. And a lot of her music feels like this. There are exceptions (Antihero certainly feels like an authentic self reflection of her real life) but a lot of it sounds like this. I'd rather she took a looooong break and wrote an entire album like Antihero and dropped this "I'm just a girls, standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her" schtick. But it to bed. She's done it. It's not who she is (I actually don't really think it's who she ever was, I think it's always been a bit of a put on) and there's no more need for more Swift songs like this in the world.

I would like her a lot more if she released less music and toured less, but what she released was more interesting, more innovative, more creative. I think she has the capacity for it but she has chosen to go the route of making as much money as she can. That's fine and a perfectly acceptable choice. But it's not one I respect *artistically*. I don't think it results in great work. I think it undermines the quality of her music.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what the last poster or posters are saying is true, I just don’t get why Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, and so on - some of the most talented and successful artists ever - have gushed about her. McCartney has collaborated with her and they did an interview together about writing songs during the pandemic that must have taken hours considering the length of their discussion.

And then, of course, there are multiple colleges offering courses about Taylor Swift, her music and lyrics, with one professor even comparing her style to Wordsworth.

IDK. I am not a music connoisseur. I just know what I like, but there’s gotta be something there.

All the very talented musicians you named are very old. They just want to stay young and current. Taylor is that in their eyes, not talented, but hot and modern. Paul McCartney as he was in the Beatles wouldn’t have been caught dead collaborating with someone as mediocre as Taylor Swift. But Paul pushing 80 wants to stay hip. Aging sucks!

Paul McCartney is 80,pushing 81

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not only are her lyrics perpetually self-focused, they are also increasingly inauthentic as she continues to write songs as though she is a perpetually unlucky-in-love, middle class, millennial woman starring in a 90s rom com. She writes from the perspective of her fans, not from her own lived experience, and it shows:

(from "Paris" on Midnights, 2022): "Stumbled down pretend alleys, cheap wine, make believe it's champagne, I was taken by the view."

When was the last time Taylor Swift ran around with a guy drinking cheap wine and pretending it was champagne, and was "taken" by the view in a city like Paris? When she wrote this song, she was a multi-millionaire juggernaut with a host of Grammy's, a massive portfolio of homes, had been to Paris many times. When has Swift EVER had to drink cheap wine on a date? She dates successful musicians, actors, and athletes and is herself wealthy and successful.

It just doesn't ring true. It feels like what you write when you are intentionally trying to evoke a moment that the typical 30 year old, middle class, woman will relate to. But it's not real for her.

I don't understand what the point is for her to writing songs like this. I don't believe that came from her heart or was ripped from her actual journal. It feels like a calculated piece of fan service. And a lot of her music feels like this. There are exceptions (Antihero certainly feels like an authentic self reflection of her real life) but a lot of it sounds like this. I'd rather she took a looooong break and wrote an entire album like Antihero and dropped this "I'm just a girls, standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her" schtick. But it to bed. She's done it. It's not who she is (I actually don't really think it's who she ever was, I think it's always been a bit of a put on) and there's no more need for more Swift songs like this in the world.

I would like her a lot more if she released less music and toured less, but what she released was more interesting, more innovative, more creative. I think she has the capacity for it but she has chosen to go the route of making as much money as she can. That's fine and a perfectly acceptable choice. But it's not one I respect *artistically*. I don't think it results in great work. I think it undermines the quality of her music.

You say a lot about a person you don't like..lol
You don't have to like but why not just ignore? How would you like it if we harped on something you loved? Clearly, millions around the world love her. Why not say it isnt for me? Why gaslight fans?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
She needs to write at least one really good iconic song that has such good melody and pace that almost everybody knows it. Like Dollys “I will always love you” or Deloris O’Riordens “Linger”,Blondies “Rapture” or Belinda Carlisle’s “Heaven is a place on Earth”

She has a lot of good songs but no really great iconic song with a really smart melody.

Reminds me of this recent Tweet:

The minority community has no patience for white progressives mentally ill caterwauling. Nobody normal does either. It gives normal people anxiety and headaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what the last poster or posters are saying is true, I just don’t get why Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, and so on - some of the most talented and successful artists ever - have gushed about her. McCartney has collaborated with her and they did an interview together about writing songs during the pandemic that must have taken hours considering the length of their discussion.

And then, of course, there are multiple colleges offering courses about Taylor Swift, her music and lyrics, with one professor even comparing her style to Wordsworth.

IDK. I am not a music connoisseur. I just know what I like, but there’s gotta be something there.

All the very talented musicians you named are very old. They just want to stay young and current. Taylor is that in their eyes, not talented, but hot and modern. Paul McCartney as he was in the Beatles wouldn’t have been caught dead collaborating with someone as mediocre as Taylor Swift. But Paul pushing 80 wants to stay hip. Aging sucks!

Caught dead? You mean like his collaboration with gimmicky Sparks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not only are her lyrics perpetually self-focused, they are also increasingly inauthentic as she continues to write songs as though she is a perpetually unlucky-in-love, middle class, millennial woman starring in a 90s rom com. She writes from the perspective of her fans, not from her own lived experience, and it shows:

(from "Paris" on Midnights, 2022): "Stumbled down pretend alleys, cheap wine, make believe it's champagne, I was taken by the view."

When was the last time Taylor Swift ran around with a guy drinking cheap wine and pretending it was champagne, and was "taken" by the view in a city like Paris? When she wrote this song, she was a multi-millionaire juggernaut with a host of Grammy's, a massive portfolio of homes, had been to Paris many times. When has Swift EVER had to drink cheap wine on a date? She dates successful musicians, actors, and athletes and is herself wealthy and successful.

It just doesn't ring true. It feels like what you write when you are intentionally trying to evoke a moment that the typical 30 year old, middle class, woman will relate to. But it's not real for her.

I don't understand what the point is for her to writing songs like this. I don't believe that came from her heart or was ripped from her actual journal. It feels like a calculated piece of fan service. And a lot of her music feels like this. There are exceptions (Antihero certainly feels like an authentic self reflection of her real life) but a lot of it sounds like this. I'd rather she took a looooong break and wrote an entire album like Antihero and dropped this "I'm just a girls, standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her" schtick. But it to bed. She's done it. It's not who she is (I actually don't really think it's who she ever was, I think it's always been a bit of a put on) and there's no more need for more Swift songs like this in the world.

I would like her a lot more if she released less music and toured less, but what she released was more interesting, more innovative, more creative. I think she has the capacity for it but she has chosen to go the route of making as much money as she can. That's fine and a perfectly acceptable choice. But it's not one I respect *artistically*. I don't think it results in great work. I think it undermines the quality of her music.

You say a lot about a person you don't like..lol
You don't have to like but why not just ignore? How would you like it if we harped on something you loved? Clearly, millions around the world love her. Why not say it isnt for me? Why gaslight fans?

Literally nothing I wrote has anything to do with how I feel about Swift personally. I feel pretty neutral on her as a person. What you are reading is music criticism. When someone creates art and puts it out in the world for other people's consumption, it's normal for people to judge it and discuss its value as art. I'm saying that I think Swift's music often lacks artistic value. I'm not gaslighting anyone, I'm sharing my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what the last poster or posters are saying is true, I just don’t get why Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, and so on - some of the most talented and successful artists ever - have gushed about her. McCartney has collaborated with her and they did an interview together about writing songs during the pandemic that must have taken hours considering the length of their discussion.

And then, of course, there are multiple colleges offering courses about Taylor Swift, her music and lyrics, with one professor even comparing her style to Wordsworth.

IDK. I am not a music connoisseur. I just know what I like, but there’s gotta be something there.

All the very talented musicians you named are very old. They just want to stay young and current. Taylor is that in their eyes, not talented, but hot and modern. Paul McCartney as he was in the Beatles wouldn’t have been caught dead collaborating with someone as mediocre as Taylor Swift. But Paul pushing 80 wants to stay hip. Aging sucks!

Paul McCartney is 80,pushing 81

Paul was 79 when he did The Rolling Stones interview with Taylor Swift. He’s 81 now. He’ll be 82 in June. The Beatles didn’t even think for a second about collaborating with the likes of Joni Mitchell in the 1960s. In fact, John Lennon actively are fun of Joni Mitchell’s music. Joni Mitchell is the 1960s version of Taylor Swift, but prettier, with a better voice, better lyrics, etc. If the Beatles were putting the far more talented Joni Mitchell down, I shudder to think what they’d say to Taylor if she were their contemporary. But since she’s young enough to be his granddaughter, Paul is full of praise. He wants to be current and cool. That’s all there is to that.