VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023

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Anonymous wrote:What baffles me is how some schools’ glax programs are so consistently bad. Wakefield, Fairfax, Marshall and Chantilly immediately come to mind. Wouldn’t they occasionally get a strong class just by chance? Some typically good programs have down years, but these weak programs never have a good one.

It starts in rec with Great Falls, Arlington and Vienna seemingly always at the top. Those schools typically do not have girls many playing club lacrosse. I haven't done the analysis, but I think it is safe to assume that most of the top HS teams have a large contingent of club players on their roster. I cannot remember any players who attends any of the schools you listed vs the dozens who come from YHS, etc. Poor Langley losses their studs to private schools.

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If someone loves the sport enough and works hard enough to get recruited, odds are that they are all in. Haven’t heard of any scholarship lax players dropping the sport due to burnout. Injuries are a wild card, and playing time isn’t guaranteed. BI standout Riley Casey who was recruited by UNC was redshirted her freshman year and barely played last year, but has now emerged as a star player. It’s worth noting that D1 players practice six hours a day six days a week. Players know this prior to committing.

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Anonymous wrote:Top 25 based on what? The Inside Lacrosse player ratings are deeply flawed. As best I can tell, they only rate players who pay $300 for their film assessment. That leaves way more players who they don’t evaluate than those they do. Anyone who attends D1 prospect camps know that those IL star ratings don’t hold mean much. I think there’s only five current D1 coaches who have won national championships. I would value their evaluation of talent over IL’s.

I think this is a fair statement in that many good players are probably never seen by IL. These families are not going to pay a ridiculous fee to be evaluated, empty their pockets to play in every money-grab event along the eastern seaboard, or spend countless hours putting together a marketing campaign to wildly and randomly promote their DD. These players will focus on specific schools they target based on academic and lax program interests. They are not waiting around to be recruited by every rando college that knocks on their door. If you are a standout player you will get noticed on the field and can control the recruiting process.

Club lacrosse in general is one big money-grab. Unfortunately, all to many NoVa parents get sucked into that money hole. They would have been better off just putting that money in a college fund.

My DD plays club and I agree - it is a money grab. The problem is that if my kid loves lacrosse (she does) and wants to play year-round (she does), then what are my options besides club? There aren't any that I know of. She can play rec, but that's only during the spring and it ends after 8th grade. She plays other sports, but she doesn't like them as much.

Agree. There really aren’t any other choices unfortunately. Many many moons ago this wasn’t the case and players (or more their parents) didn’t feel the need to play year round. College recruitment could be done from their high school teams. But the ridiculous cost and competitiveness of good college admission I’m sure drove having that competitive edge which resulted in the emergence of all these various lacrosse clubs. Same for many other sports — soccer, baseball, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:What baffles me is how some schools’ glax programs are so consistently bad. Wakefield, Fairfax, Marshall and Chantilly immediately come to mind. Wouldn’t they occasionally get a strong class just by chance? Some typically good programs have down years, but these weak programs never have a good one.

Welcome newbie. This has been the case for a number of years, teams are up and down, although some squads do a better job of staying up than others (thanks to rec, travel and even coaching), while others do a good job of staying down.

Your point is correct, but Chantilly has won a state title in the past and Marshall has had some decent teams.

State Titles in the last 30 years...

Woodson-7
Robinson-6
Oakton-5
Centerville-2
Madison-2
Langley-2
Chantilly-1
McLean-1
Westfield-1
W.Albemarle-1
Yorktown -1
Covid -1

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Lax Numbers 1st poll updated today.

https://www.laxnumbers.com/ratings.php?y=2023&v=4083

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Anonymous wrote:If someone loves the sport enough and works hard enough to get recruited, odds are that they are all in. Haven’t heard of any scholarship lax players dropping the sport due to burnout. Injuries are a wild card, and playing time isn’t guaranteed. BI standout Riley Casey who was recruited by UNC was redshirted her freshman year and barely played last year, but has now emerged as a star player. It’s worth noting that D1 players practice six hours a day six days a week. Players know this prior to committing.

This is the WEIRDEST post. First, Riley Casey went to private - BI - and is irrelevant to this discussion.. PLus, let see how she does nothing proven yet.

Second, most lax players don't get "scholarship money" and again, irrelevant, but many on that path - the path to D1 lacrosse, do get burnout, or get sick of the crap that goes on and quit. And they do not practice 6 hours a day.

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Seriously, how many D1 recruits do you know that are not on scholarship? You think the majority of players are walk-ons? Even D3s get financial help, it’s just not officially for athletes.

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Agreed that this post and thread is filled with unqualified opinions rather than fact, and those opinions are posted on her it seems just to put down a player or program. Case in point- a PP mentioned that the Yorktown goalie is committed to Gettysberg, which is correct, but she does not start or play for Yorktown in any games as they use the other goalies. Thats a fact.
PP also commented and said oakton has 4 D1 commits and a D3 commit. That is completely and utterly false. They have 2xD1 commits and 2xD3 commits. one of those d3 commits doesn't really see the field at all.
My point is, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, some are more factual than others, some are because the parents are mad or upset at coaches or programs, and some are just defending their programs, but at the end of the day, they are opinions. Just like the ridiculous posts on who the best middies are in the state. C'mon people, it's great to talk about lax in NOVA but the constant trashing of coaches, players and teams is just ludicrous, but i guess that comes with all glax parents.

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Anonymous wrote:If someone loves the sport enough and works hard enough to get recruited, odds are that they are all in. Haven’t heard of any scholarship lax players dropping the sport due to burnout. Injuries are a wild card, and playing time isn’t guaranteed. BI standout Riley Casey who was recruited by UNC was redshirted her freshman year and barely played last year, but has now emerged as a star player. It’s worth noting that D1 players practice six hours a day six days a week. Players know this prior to committing.

This is the WEIRDEST post. First, Riley Casey went to private - BI - and is irrelevant to this discussion.. PLus, let see how she does nothing proven yet.

Second, most lax players don't get "scholarship money" and again, irrelevant, but many on that path - the path to D1 lacrosse, do get burnout, or get sick of the crap that goes on and quit. And they do not practice 6 hours a day.

The problem is life happens that these bright-eyed 18 y/o high schoolers could never have foreseen once they actually get to college. They develop other interests outside lax, academic rigor, injuries, coach conflicts, etc and frankly many just burnout.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, how many D1 recruits do you know that are not on scholarship? You think the majority of players are walk-ons? Even D3s get financial help, it’s just not officially for athletes.

Most D1 players get some scholarship money but no where near the cost of attending these schools. I’m sure their parents spent more on clubs, showcases, videos, travel expenses, etc prior to HS graduation than they’ll ever receive in scholarship money.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, how many D1 recruits do you know that are not on scholarship? You think the majority of players are walk-ons? Even D3s get financial help, it’s just not officially for athletes.

DI lacrosse has 12 scholarships to share among the entire team. Rosters are between 25 and 35. Not a lot of scholarship money to go around. Many girls have zero athletic money. The coach may help put together a package that includes some academic or need based money, but there is not a lot of athletic money to be had.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed that this post and thread is filled with unqualified opinions rather than fact, and those opinions are posted on her it seems just to put down a player or program. Case in point- a PP mentioned that the Yorktown goalie is committed to Gettysberg, which is correct, but she does not start or play for Yorktown in any games as they use the other goalies. Thats a fact.
PP also commented and said oakton has 4 D1 commits and a D3 commit. That is completely and utterly false. They have 2xD1 commits and 2xD3 commits. one of those d3 commits doesn't really see the field at all.
My point is, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, some are more factual than others, some are because the parents are mad or upset at coaches or programs, and some are just defending their programs, but at the end of the day, they are opinions. Just like the ridiculous posts on who the best middies are in the state. C'mon people, it's great to talk about lax in NOVA but the constant trashing of coaches, players and teams is just ludicrous, but i guess that comes with all glax parents.

Of course these posts are mostly opinions, and this BB is mostly for entertainment as it’s DCUM, but if you’re gonna call out people on being false…let’s look no further than your post above. You stated above that the PP claimed “oakton has 4 D1 commits and a D3 commit”. That is completely false. The PP never said that. Looking back this is what the PP stated: “So Oakton has at least 4 D1/D3 commits that I’m aware of. I’d call that “several” commits.”
So that means they knew of at least 4 commits total going to either D1 or D3 schools. They didn’t break it down between the two. Please work on your reading comprehension. Thank you.

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For the record, both of Oakton’s D3 commits start and play practically the entire game, one on D and the other at midfield or D. Folks who post claiming to have the facts should perhaps do a little fact checking first.

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Lest there be any doubt…
For Oakton:

#11 Jenkins - D1 JMU
#4 Basuel- D1 URI
#17 Yurko- D3 USCG
#10 Polhemus- D3 Gettysburg

All are starters.

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you are false with your oakton commits. There is another D3 commit that you are forgetting who actually doesn't see the field on defense. Just saying, if you are going to call out others, you need to get it right