Don't fly United

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"David Dao, the Elizabethtown doctor who was yanked off an overbooked United Airlines flight Sunday, has had a troubled history in Kentucky.

Dao, who went to medical school in Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the U.S., was working as a pulmonologist in Elizabethtown when he was arrested in 2003 and eventually convicted of drug-related offenses after an undercover investigation, according to documents filed with the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure last June. The documents allege that he was involved in fraudulent prescriptions for controlled substances and was sexually involved with a patient who used to work for his practice and assisted police in building a case against him.

Dao was convicted of multiple felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud or deceit in November 2004 and was placed on five years of supervised probation in January 2005. He surrendered his medical license the next month."

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2017/04/11/david-dao-passenger-removed-united-flight-doctor-troubled-past/100318320/

I don't care about this guy's background. If he is lying about being a doctor and having patients to see, that's pretty low, but it doesn't change the principle of the issue at hand.

He regained his medical license (with restrictions) in 2014 and returned to medical practice in 2015. In 2011 he was evaluated, with the following recommendations:

1) He attend a residential program to address his character deficits.

2) He completes a polygraph without evidence of deception.

3) He completes a professional boundaries course.

4) He submits to random urine and polygraph examinations.

5) A highly structured practice plan with a restricted DEA license is set up if/when he is able to return to medical practice.

He also has a past history of depression, anxiety and trauma - which may have played into his reaction and response on the plane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"David Dao, the Elizabethtown doctor who was yanked off an overbooked United Airlines flight Sunday, has had a troubled history in Kentucky.

Dao, who went to medical school in Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the U.S., was working as a pulmonologist in Elizabethtown when he was arrested in 2003 and eventually convicted of drug-related offenses after an undercover investigation, according to documents filed with the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure last June. The documents allege that he was involved in fraudulent prescriptions for controlled substances and was sexually involved with a patient who used to work for his practice and assisted police in building a case against him.

Dao was convicted of multiple felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud or deceit in November 2004 and was placed on five years of supervised probation in January 2005. He surrendered his medical license the next month."

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2017/04/11/david-dao-passenger-removed-united-flight-doctor-troubled-past/100318320/

I don't care about this guy's background. If he is lying about being a doctor and having patients to see, that's pretty low, but it doesn't change the principle of the issue at hand.

He regained his medical license (with restrictions) in 2014 and returned to medical practice in 2015. In 2011 he was evaluated, with the following recommendations:

1) He attend a residential program to address his character deficits.

2) He completes a polygraph without evidence of deception.

3) He completes a professional boundaries course.

4) He submits to random urine and polygraph examinations.

5) A highly structured practice plan with a restricted DEA license is set up if/when he is able to return to medical practice.

He also has a past history of depression, anxiety and trauma - which may have played into his reaction and response on the plane.

So, what is your point? Rather than drag him out they should've knocked him out cold?

[Anonymous]

If you have a United credit card, please consider paying off your balance or transferring your balance to another card and close your United card. They need to know that people will vote with their feet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you have a United credit card, please consider paying off your balance or transferring your balance to another card and close your United card. They need to know that people will vote with their feet.

Great way to stick it to JP Morgan Chase, which issues the United card. Screw them big time!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you have a United credit card, please consider paying off your balance or transferring your balance to another card and close your United card. They need to know that people will vote with their feet.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

It wasn't an Involuntary Denied Boarding. He had ALREADY boarded. It was an involuntary de-boarding.

You are incorrect. A passenger is not officially boarded until the aircraft door is shut. Please stop spreading misinformation.

Link your source. Thank you.

I'm sorry, what do you do for a living? How many times a year do you fly? Once or twice?

That's what I thought.

Been flying internationally since early childhood. But not on United anymore.

That's great, but it doesn't mean you know the regulations and airline policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"David Dao, the Elizabethtown doctor who was yanked off an overbooked United Airlines flight Sunday, has had a troubled history in Kentucky.

Dao, who went to medical school in Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the U.S., was working as a pulmonologist in Elizabethtown when he was arrested in 2003 and eventually convicted of drug-related offenses after an undercover investigation, according to documents filed with the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure last June. The documents allege that he was involved in fraudulent prescriptions for controlled substances and was sexually involved with a patient who used to work for his practice and assisted police in building a case against him.

Dao was convicted of multiple felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud or deceit in November 2004 and was placed on five years of supervised probation in January 2005. He surrendered his medical license the next month."

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2017/04/11/david-dao-passenger-removed-united-flight-doctor-troubled-past/100318320/

I don't care about this guy's background. If he is lying about being a doctor and having patients to see, that's pretty low, but it doesn't change the principle of the issue at hand.

He regained his medical license (with restrictions) in 2014 and returned to medical practice in 2015. In 2011 he was evaluated, with the following recommendations:

1) He attend a residential program to address his character deficits.

2) He completes a polygraph without evidence of deception.

3) He completes a professional boundaries course.

4) He submits to random urine and polygraph examinations.

5) A highly structured practice plan with a restricted DEA license is set up if/when he is able to return to medical practice.

He also has a past history of depression, anxiety and trauma - which may have played into his reaction and response on the plane.

So, what is your point? Rather than drag him out they should've knocked him out cold?

No, my reply was to someone wondering if he actually had a medical license and patients to see or if that was a lie. My point was he had gone through the process and retruned to practice and had some health issues that may have contributed to why he ran back on the plane in a panic and saying I need to go home and kill me.

His past really has nothing to do with the event, other than it seems he was telling the truth. It doesn't matter if it was a doctor or unemployed person. The incident on the airline is separate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:United is getting hits where it hurts.

Shares down 4% this morning. Board won't ignore that.

Keep selling people!

Ouch!!

Munoz will be gone in a week, I believe.

Exactly.

Obviously he has a lot to learn about running an airline. He wasn't even from the aviation industry

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you have a United credit card, please consider paying off your balance or transferring your balance to another card and close your United card. They need to know that people will vote with their feet.

Yup. Doing it right now.

[Anonymous]

United's stock has already fallen 3.8% (830 mn$ in value).

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/uniteds-stock-is-set-to-fall-5-and-wipe-1-billion-off-the-airlines-market-cap-2017-04-11

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a United credit card, please consider paying off your balance or transferring your balance to another card and close your United card. They need to know that people will vote with their feet.

Great way to stick it to JP Morgan Chase, which issues the United card. Screw them big time!

JPMC pays an upfront licensing fee + a percentage of CC fees to United to issue the card. That fee is re-negotiated every few years - this is why CostCo jumped from Amex to Visa and Amex share prices took a dive after the announcement. These arrangements drive a large portion of revenue for the credit card issuing banks. The more people cancel their card, the less United will receive.

It makes sense to cancel the card, if you're pissed at United.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"David Dao, the Elizabethtown doctor who was yanked off an overbooked United Airlines flight Sunday, has had a troubled history in Kentucky.

Dao, who went to medical school in Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the U.S., was working as a pulmonologist in Elizabethtown when he was arrested in 2003 and eventually convicted of drug-related offenses after an undercover investigation, according to documents filed with the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure last June. The documents allege that he was involved in fraudulent prescriptions for controlled substances and was sexually involved with a patient who used to work for his practice and assisted police in building a case against him.

Dao was convicted of multiple felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud or deceit in November 2004 and was placed on five years of supervised probation in January 2005. He surrendered his medical license the next month."

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2017/04/11/david-dao-passenger-removed-united-flight-doctor-troubled-past/100318320/

I don't care about this guy's background. If he is lying about being a doctor and having patients to see, that's pretty low, but it doesn't change the principle of the issue at hand.

He regained his medical license (with restrictions) in 2014 and returned to medical practice in 2015. In 2011 he was evaluated, with the following recommendations:

1) He attend a residential program to address his character deficits.

2) He completes a polygraph without evidence of deception.

3) He completes a professional boundaries course.

4) He submits to random urine and polygraph examinations.

5) A highly structured practice plan with a restricted DEA license is set up if/when he is able to return to medical practice.

He also has a past history of depression, anxiety and trauma - which may have played into his reaction and response on the plane.

So, what is your point? Rather than drag him out they should've knocked him out cold?

No, my reply was to someone wondering if he actually had a medical license and patients to see or if that was a lie. My point was he had gone through the process and retruned to practice and had some health issues that may have contributed to why he ran back on the plane in a panic and saying I need to go home and kill me.

His past really has nothing to do with the event, other than it seems he was telling the truth. It doesn't matter if it was a doctor or unemployed person. The incident on the airline is separate.

NP here. Your first post and your PP reek of victim blaming, so just stop. You could've just pointed out that he is, in fact, a doctor and left it at that, but you didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It wasn't an Involuntary Denied Boarding. He had ALREADY boarded. It was an involuntary de-boarding.

You are incorrect. A passenger is not officially boarded until the aircraft door is shut. Please stop spreading misinformation.

Please apply some common sense. Normal people consider showing your boarding pass and getting on the plane to be *boarding the plane*. He had already done that. HE BOARDED THE PLANE.

It doesn't matter what a normal person believes. As far as the regulations go, boarding is not complete until the door is closed - hence the announcement about the door closing on every flight.

Boarding may not have completed, but this guy had certainly boarded. How do we know? He was on the fucking plane, in a seat.

[Anonymous]

Are fares dropping in response to the collective freak out? I would like to get some cheap fares to Asia.

[Anonymous]

I'm never flying united again. Every experience I've had in the past with them has been nightmarish. This is just confirmation of my personal experience. Screw them.