Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous
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She isn't wrong. Why would anyone take the GOP seriously now?

Lisa needs to become an Independent.
Anonymous


Rep. Dan Crenshaw hit back at Republican colleagues who killed the immigration bill, claiming there’s no need for new border security laws:

“I understand some Republicans are saying, ‘We don’t need any changes to the law!’, Then why did we write HR 2? Why did we do that? Why didn’t Trump just shut down the border if you just think we don’t need any changes to the law? He couldn’t”
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Rep. Dan Crenshaw hit back at Republican colleagues who killed the immigration bill, claiming there’s no need for new border security laws:

“I understand some Republicans are saying, ‘We don’t need any changes to the law!’, Then why did we write HR 2? Why did we do that? Why didn’t Trump just shut down the border if you just think we don’t need any changes to the law? He couldn’t”

Crenshaw is making too much sense. He's going to be declared a RINO if he wasn't already.
Anonymous


Interesting.
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Interesting.


Those numbers are over 10 years. So immigration is not a drain on the economy, quite the opposite.
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Anonymous wrote:

Rep. Dan Crenshaw hit back at Republican colleagues who killed the immigration bill, claiming there’s no need for new border security laws:

“I understand some Republicans are saying, ‘We don’t need any changes to the law!’, Then why did we write HR 2? Why did we do that? Why didn’t Trump just shut down the border if you just think we don’t need any changes to the law? He couldn’t”

Crenshaw is making too much sense. He's going to be declared a RINO if he wasn't already.

Which is a truly sad commentary on the GOP since Crenshaw is flaming pants on fire conservative.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:

She isn't wrong. Why would anyone take the GOP seriously now?

Lisa needs to become an Independent.

I truly don’t understand why she hasn’t yet, or why Mitt hasn’t with his short time remaining.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:

Interesting.


Those numbers are over 10 years. So immigration is not a drain on the economy, quite the opposite.


I wonder as a % how much of an increase that is.

And if it’s accounting for inflation.

Either way, yes more people=more velocity of money=larger GDP

GDP isn’t isn’t a good way to measure well-being though. GDP per-capita is a better measurement .. and immigration doesn’t necessarily help that.
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The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.


Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.


Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.


Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.



“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?


You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

She isn't wrong. Why would anyone take the GOP seriously now?

Lisa needs to become an Independent.

I truly don’t understand why she hasn’t yet, or why Mitt hasn’t with his short time remaining.


Maybe they, like Liz Cheney and so many others, think it should be the other way around. They want to stay and fight and retake their party from the MAGA wackjobs. It's the Marjorie Taylor Greenes and Stefaniks and others who should be kicked out and made independents. It is they who hijacked the party.
Anonymous
It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.


The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.
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Anonymous wrote:It's official. The Republicans torpedoed a bill to help fix the border problems - for no other reason than pure partisanship, to create chaos, gambling on a bet that clueless Republicans won't figure it out and will continue to blame Biden for the chaos that Republicans have been maintaining and making worse in order to make Biden look a lot worse than he is.

It also officially proves that the Republicans are NOT actually serious about solving the border issue. They clearly DO NOT consider it a crisis, given they want to punt it down the road and allow chaos rather than actually passing a bill to fix it.

There's absolutely no denying it.


The reason is that it was not a border protection bill. It was an immigration bill.
It would not solve the border crisis. And, it wouldn't help. A bad bill is worse than no bill at all.

It's hilarious that Biden and his cronies are trying to pin the border crisis on Republicans. Gaslighting, anyone?
Biden has been a total disaster. Fortunately, the voting public knows the truth.


Oh stop lying. This bill is what the GOP had been asking for for months. Apparently there isn’t actually a crisis at the border since they think this can wait until next year to get done
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The story of the immigration debate is just Republicans killing bipartisan agreements over & over.


Bipartisan as in a reform bill written by Republicans who support open borders and Democrats who support open borders.


Republicans made demands, negotiated a deal with Democrats, but won’t vote for the deal they demanded. This is what Republicans have done consistently since 1990. They never deliver the votes for changes that they demanded. There is no point in ever negotiating with Republicans. They always act in bad faith.


Since November, speaker Johnson has consistently said “it needs to be substantially similar to the border bill we’d already passed otherwise it is DOA in the house”

So establishment old-school senile Republicans in the Senate decided to ignore the base, and “negotiate” a bill that was mainly garbage and didn’t include anything from H.R. 2

This is not even remotely close to what was demanded. The demand was Ukraine aid for border restrictions—we don’t want to pour tens of billions into Ukraine but you do. We want the border restrictions passed, you don’t. Give us the border restrictions and we’ll give you the foreign aid.

Yet the ultra-until-3-days-ago “compromise” gave them the Ukraine aid for what essentially would be a performative bureaucratic mess of non-restrictions.

Teethless, so many loopholes, somehow included an increase in visas too.

It was a joke, read the bill. It’s awful.



“ The measure has the support of business lobbying groups as well as the organization representing the mayors of every U.S. city with a population above 30,000. The labor union for border-patrol agents, which endorsed Donald Trump in 2020, supports the plan. So do the editorial boards of The Washington Post, which leans left, and The Wall Street Journal, which is deeply conservative.”

How can it be “awful” with so much conservative support?


You’re confusing the big-business-oriented/globalist conservatives with the blue-collar base MAGA conservatives. That former makes up the “Old Guard” that most people hate because they’ve spent the last few decades screwing everyone else over. Of course they support a policy that would lead to an increase in labor and thus decrease costs.

And of course Border Patrol Union supports it, it would add more members to it’s ranks and more funding.



If our multinational corporations aren't "globalist" their American workforces and production would be a fraction of the size. I get really tired of the Bannon-trope "globalist" hate. It is truly what has made the USA what it is.
Anonymous
The border bill was never about the boarder. Chuck Schumer was on MSNBC saying if the border bill is not passed, we will lose the Ukrain war and US will have to send troops in to fight a NATO war and the war between Israel and Hamas will go on and on. So what’s really in this border bill. Seriously. Glad it’s DOA. Until they can spell it out for the American people, shut it down. Not my tax money. I rather it spent on inner city issues.
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