The Golden Bachelor

[Anonymous]

Theresa isn't manipulative. She's saying over and over that Kathy is a good person, and she had a really good relationship with her, and hopes to have that again, and she admits that she said things she shouldn't have said....

Theresa takes some responsibility, despite being surprised by Kathy's reaction, and she hopes to reconcile with Kathy.

Kathy on the other hand, just can't stand anything that Theresa says that out-does what she has with Gerry. That's just pure jealousy on Kathy's part.

Theresa doesn't look the best in these shots... but she's been crying. When you listen to what each one says, I don't see how you can paint Theresa as the villain when she's the one hoping they stay friends, while Kathy is repeatedly calling Theresa "dumb as a rock." -- such a nice lady!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wXbzdus_A4

Previous conversation:

Kathy said to Theresa, "I feel like you're dismissing me, like, 'He and I are going off into the sunset. Go pack because you're going home. ' That's how you've made me feel sometimes." Theresa was shocked by what Kathy was saying to her and didn't realize her sharing her time with Gerry was hurting Kathy.

[Anonymous]

Riiiiight. She had nooooo idea. :rolleyes:

She's 70, not a toddler. She knows what's she's doing, and hopefully she will get the eventual outcome she deserves. Publicly.

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Anonymous wrote:Team Theresa here. I am rooting for her because she is his age. And she's a widow. She's very petite next to all the other women. I looked at a group photo again from the first night. I wondered why the other women look like giants next to her. She's getting too much hate. She hasn't done anything to deserve the amount of hate she gets. If he does choose her, I feel sorry for how much hate that will come her way. I hope she doesn't read the comments.

I thought Theresa was being unfairly targeted by Kathy until she turned to Kathy at the rose ceremony and said all fake-sweetly, "And he came to my room to comfort me . . ." And then I was like, oh no, she's just petty and manipulative.

I don’t love Theresa, but this is a bit unfair. He went to her room after Kathy got her claws into her. I guess we’ll learn more about what went on behind the scenes on ladies’ night or whatever that is. Until then I’m withholding judgement.

All Kathy did was say, "this is the kind of thing you need to stop talking about all the time, Theresa," or words to that effect.

What exactly did Kathy say that wasn't fair and accurate about just basic politeness?

You can go back in this thread and find the exact quotes -- but Kathy said something very close to:

"When you say you have a connection with Gerry, it's just like you're telling me I should pack my bags b/c I'm going home!'

Theresa was just excited about her date. She didn't ever imply that Kathy had no chance and she should go home. That was KATHY projecting her insecurities onto Theresa and making Theresa into an aggressor and Kathy into the victim. No one else felt attacked by Theresa or bullied by Theresa .. why? ... B/c it never happened except in Kathy's mind.

When Theresa was saying she felt terrible that Kathy was upset (to Kathy), and she felt horrible, Kathy showed ZERO grace... she said "no crying, no! I'm not accepting that..." Kathy doesn't like to lose out and when she could see that Theresa was having a pretty good time with Gerry, she smacked Theresa down.

Kathy is the bully.

+1

Agree with all of this.

[Anonymous]

Theresa is seventy years old, is "highly competitive" per this thread, and supposedly a successful financial consultant of some kind in New Jersey. And you think she can't read a room? Pick up on body language? Has never learned that bragging and perseverating on a sensitive topic (and yeah, this is obviously a loaded topic) when someone looks uncomfortable is rude and unkind, if not incredibly tacky?

Got a bridge to sell you.

Kathy was clear on saying "this is how you make me feel when you do that" and drawing boundaries on discussions she didn't want to be involved in. She was generous in trying to give Theresa chances. Yes, Kathy is abrupt and tense sometimes, and no, I don't think she would have been right for Gerry anyway. But she wasn't wrong.

I just don't get this obsession with treating the hyper-competitive and successful Theresa like a fragile little girl with mental health problems. You are infantilizing her, and it's weird.

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Anonymous wrote:Riiiiight. She had nooooo idea. :rolleyes:

She's 70, not a toddler. She knows what's she's doing, and hopefully she will get the eventual outcome she deserves. Publicly.

What? It’s a show where everyone dates the same man by design. It’s offensive to talk about your dates? That’s ridiculous. That’s what these people talk to each other about for hours and hours every day cut off from the real world. We’ve heard that over and over from past contestants. I don’t think it’s a healthy environment, but these ladies knew what they signed up for and Theresa wasn’t being mean/doing anything differently than anyone else. That’s crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Gerry had said this home on the lake was for Toni, his ex-wife. That he was sitting there wondering what he was doing there, here in her dream house.

I mean, that's a simplistic take, but it's where this all started in that first episode. I wonder if there will be a callback to that. Not immediately, but maybe dating with the plan for him to sell and start fresh elsewhere. If the woman has a house and they move in together, he'd have plenty of money to fly back frequently.

I think he already sold that house.

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Anonymous wrote:Gerry had said this home on the lake was for Toni, his ex-wife. That he was sitting there wondering what he was doing there, here in her dream house.

I mean, that's a simplistic take, but it's where this all started in that first episode. I wonder if there will be a callback to that. Not immediately, but maybe dating with the plan for him to sell and start fresh elsewhere. If the woman has a house and they move in together, he'd have plenty of money to fly back frequently.

I think he already sold that house.

Yep. It's not been touched on in the show, but it has been in interviews.

https://people.com/who-is-gerry-turner-the-golden-bachelor-7562098

[Anonymous]

My take on Kathy/Theresa is that neither communicates very well.

Theresa should have the sense to not gush about her time with Gary to other women he's dating. That's a no brainer. She obviously did have a connection with Gary from the beginning, and Kathy never did, but it's tacky to walk around that house like she's already won.
Kathy should've just said "Hey Theresa, it's not cool to gush about your dates with Gary when we're all "dating" him. Don't talk about it unless we ask, k? But instead she was aggressive out of the gate and used way too many words and never actually explicitly made that point.
Theresa then went way overboard trying to explain herself, which I kind of get since Kathy was so abrasive. But she should've just said "okay, got it" and stopped engaging so much.
Plus they were both interrupting each other and trying to talk over each other every time they talked.

I mean, Theresa kind of started it by not having the basic sense and courtesy to not gloat about how she's doing in a competition to her competitors. But from there, they both let it spiral.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My take on Kathy/Theresa is that neither communicates very well.

Theresa should have the sense to not gush about her time with Gary to other women he's dating. That's a no brainer. She obviously did have a connection with Gary from the beginning, and Kathy never did, but it's tacky to walk around that house like she's already won.
Kathy should've just said "Hey Theresa, it's not cool to gush about your dates with Gary when we're all "dating" him. Don't talk about it unless we ask, k? But instead she was aggressive out of the gate and used way too many words and never actually explicitly made that point.
Theresa then went way overboard trying to explain herself, which I kind of get since Kathy was so abrasive. But she should've just said "okay, got it" and stopped engaging so much.
Plus they were both interrupting each other and trying to talk over each other every time they talked.

I mean, Theresa kind of started it by not having the basic sense and courtesy to not gloat about how she's doing in a competition to her competitors. But from there, they both let it spiral.

Agree with this, well said!

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Anonymous wrote:Gerry had said this home on the lake was for Toni, his ex-wife. That he was sitting there wondering what he was doing there, here in her dream house.

I mean, that's a simplistic take, but it's where this all started in that first episode. I wonder if there will be a callback to that. Not immediately, but maybe dating with the plan for him to sell and start fresh elsewhere. If the woman has a house and they move in together, he'd have plenty of money to fly back frequently.

I think he already sold that house.

Yep. It's not been touched on in the show, but it has been in interviews.

https://people.com/who-is-gerry-turner-the-golden-bachelor-7562098

He states in this interview he's looking for someone high energy, and that he would be hesitant to enter a relationship where geography was a serious obstacle. And "“He's often busy hosting barbecues, playing pickleball, cheering on his favorite Chicago sports teams, four-wheeling, and spending time with friends and family at restaurants and local haunts,” his official description reads. He is well matched with Leslie.

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Anonymous wrote:Gerry had said this home on the lake was for Toni, his ex-wife. That he was sitting there wondering what he was doing there, here in her dream house.

I mean, that's a simplistic take, but it's where this all started in that first episode. I wonder if there will be a callback to that. Not immediately, but maybe dating with the plan for him to sell and start fresh elsewhere. If the woman has a house and they move in together, he'd have plenty of money to fly back frequently.

PLEASE tell me this is a typo. Toni is not his ex wife. She is his late wife.

Typo. My apologies for offending. It was just an error.

We all knew what you meant. Someone has to always point out flaws. It’s the dcurbanmoms way.

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Anonymous wrote:Gerry had said this home on the lake was for Toni, his ex-wife. That he was sitting there wondering what he was doing there, here in her dream house.

I mean, that's a simplistic take, but it's where this all started in that first episode. I wonder if there will be a callback to that. Not immediately, but maybe dating with the plan for him to sell and start fresh elsewhere. If the woman has a house and they move in together, he'd have plenty of money to fly back frequently.

I think he already sold that house.

Yep. It's not been touched on in the show, but it has been in interviews.

https://people.com/who-is-gerry-turner-the-golden-bachelor-7562098

He states in this interview he's looking for someone high energy, and that he would be hesitant to enter a relationship where geography was a serious obstacle. And "“He's often busy hosting barbecues, playing pickleball, cheering on his favorite Chicago sports teams, four-wheeling, and spending time with friends and family at restaurants and local haunts,” his official description reads. He is well matched with Leslie.

Wasnt Leslie the one who was afraid of four-wheeling? That was their date.

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Anonymous wrote:Gerry had said this home on the lake was for Toni, his ex-wife. That he was sitting there wondering what he was doing there, here in her dream house.

I mean, that's a simplistic take, but it's where this all started in that first episode. I wonder if there will be a callback to that. Not immediately, but maybe dating with the plan for him to sell and start fresh elsewhere. If the woman has a house and they move in together, he'd have plenty of money to fly back frequently.

I think he already sold that house.

Yep. It's not been touched on in the show, but it has been in interviews.

https://people.com/who-is-gerry-turner-the-golden-bachelor-7562098

He states in this interview he's looking for someone high energy, and that he would be hesitant to enter a relationship where geography was a serious obstacle. And "“He's often busy hosting barbecues, playing pickleball, cheering on his favorite Chicago sports teams, four-wheeling, and spending time with friends and family at restaurants and local haunts,” his official description reads. He is well matched with Leslie.

Wasnt Leslie the one who was afraid of four-wheeling? That was their date.

At first, I think, but they ended up having fun and he said he enjoyed feeling protective of her too. Can you imagine Theresa in a four wheeler? Interesting that this was the date was testing compatibility with his interests.

[Anonymous]

Someone above thread asked about hair - Theresa definitely wears a hair piece.

[Anonymous]

Oh Geez, I just watched the most recent episode. Is Theresa the only person he DIDN'T say I love you too? Also, Why is Theresa? She just looks so desperate. If I were him, I would have sent her packing.