US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:I feel very emotional today even though I knew this was coming. I am asian and my child is asian and white, and yet I still felt overcome with sadness when I heard the opinion today. In particular, Chief Justice Roberts carving out an exception to allow affirmative action for military academies only and Justice Brown's dissent calling out the hypocrisy of the majority opinion wanting people of color to be recruited in "the bunkers but not the board room" was especially strong. And don't get me started on the irony of Justice Thomas' personal narrative arguing against it.

I’m so sick of this argument - suggesting Justice Thomas would not have succeeded without admissions standards being lowered to let him in to school. THIS IS THE STIGMA. What were his scores? Does anyone even know? His position is not ironic. Yours is.

Agree. So presumptuous and entitled. Fact is you don’t know the tests scores of the vast majority. Get over yourself.

Clarence Thomas himself has said that he was the recipient of AA in college/law school admissions. Some of you are really ignorant. Read FIRST before posting!

And how exactly would that make his position “ironic.” This is such a dumb take. If a white person argues against white supremacy, no one says, “it’s so ironic that you criticize white supremacy when you benefited!”

I’m the person you’re responding to (different than the other posters in this thread). I was responding to the person who talked about lower standards and Thomas’s success. I absolutely believe that his “success” is based on lowered standards that were used to advance conservatives’ political agenda. His time at the EEOC and the bench prove that. He’s incompetent. Argue with yourself.

Examples of two brilliant and highly capable Justices, beneficiaries of AA or not: Justices Marshall and Brown Jackson.

Thanks for clarifying. I think Justice Thomas is brilliant and way ahead of his time. Liberals are especially vicious to him because being a black and a conservative challenges their core stereotypes about what black people believe and need. I think history will be kind to him.

Clarence is NONE of those things. History (and the present) will not be kind to him. The AAMHC excluded him from their initial exhibits and he was whining and moaning about it to anyone who would listen.

The vasts majority of educated and accomplished Black people regard Clarence with considerable disdain.

That’s true. But can you think of other times when the vast majority of people have been wrong? I can.

Educated and accomplished Black people are not wrong about Clarence. We’ve known exactly who he is from the beginning.

Is there some reason you have to specific that the “educated and accomplished” ones agree with you. Maybe normal black people aren’t so left-wing ideologically obsessed.

I don’t speak for all Black people. I’m speaking for myself and the demographic that I’ve been a part of my entire life. Educated (multigenerational) and accomplished Black people are the people I know best.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like PREPPED test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

Fixed that for you.

I never understand just picking on test.

You can bump up GPA with tutoring.
You can spend $$$ for fancy ECs, research activity, private coaches
You can hire professional writerse for essays

In fact, again and agan Aisans had higher scores on almost all factors including ECs, leadership, interview, etc.

Asians get more tutoring than anyone, so your point is lost.

yes they care and value educaiton. they spend more money on education than Nike sneakers, so what??

Bet you can tell me the price of buying the tests from the prep place. Hope it was worth it.

People care more about the education deserve better school. Plain and simple.
You can wear your fancy Nike basketball sneakers and go to a lesser school.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like PREPPED test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

Fixed that for you.

I never understand just picking on test.

You can bump up GPA with tutoring.
You can spend $$$ for fancy ECs, research activity, private coaches
You can hire professional writerse for essays

In fact, again and agan Aisans had higher scores on almost all factors including ECs, leadership, interview, etc.

Asians get more tutoring than anyone, so your point is lost.

yes they care and value educaiton. they spend more money on education than Nike sneakers, so what??

I value education but I do draw the line. These are just kids. I don’t buy expensive shoes. But I tend to shy away from a rat race for kids, they’ll have time to discover how competitive life is while in college.

So wait, is the shoe thing an attack on black kids, or white kids? So hard to keep up with the overt racism!

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I have such complicated feelings about this, on one hand I am an Asian (Indian) and in 4-5 years my kids will be entering the ringer of college admissions and sure, we want to get to the best place they can get to according to their abilities. However, being an Asian I am aware that they face greater odds compared to others and that makes me somewhat anxious.

OTOH, Blacks have suffered tremendous trauma in this country, generations of blacks have been exploited and their psychology has been deeply affected by constantly treating them as less than. They do need a leg up, some sort of support to give them a shot at a prosperous life, a way to get into upper ranks of society. We all have our struggles but it is extremely hard to overcome trauma that is left by society treating you as not equal.

I still hope that colleges find a way to accommodate bright black kids from underprivileged backgrounds. I do not support prioritizing black kids from affluent backgrounds.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like PREPPED test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

Fixed that for you.

I never understand just picking on test.

You can bump up GPA with tutoring.
You can spend $$$ for fancy ECs, research activity, private coaches
You can hire professional writerse for essays

In fact, again and agan Aisans had higher scores on almost all factors including ECs, leadership, interview, etc.

Asians get more tutoring than anyone, so your point is lost.

yes they care and value educaiton. they spend more money on education than Nike sneakers, so what??

Bet you can tell me the price of buying the tests from the prep place. Hope it was worth it.

People care more about the education deserve better school. Plain and simple.
You can wear your fancy Nike basketball sneakers and go to a lesser school.

Again, not sure if the shoe statement is racist against blacks or whites, but keep going, because you are telling everyone what they already knew.

Good job??

I have nice shoes, so I must not be smart? Does this mean I have to turn my degrees in? Would that make you happy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have such complicated feelings about this, on one hand I am an Asian (Indian) and in 4-5 years my kids will be entering the ringer of college admissions and sure, we want to get to the best place they can get to according to their abilities. However, being an Asian I am aware that they face greater odds compared to others and that makes me somewhat anxious.

OTOH, Blacks have suffered tremendous trauma in this country, generations of blacks have been exploited and their psychology has been deeply affected by constantly treating them as less than. They do need a leg up, some sort of support to give them a shot at a prosperous life, a way to get into upper ranks of society. We all have our struggles but it is extremely hard to overcome trauma that is left by society treating you as not equal.

I still hope that colleges find a way to accommodate bright black kids from underprivileged backgrounds. I do not support prioritizing black kids from affluent backgrounds.

People who actually know about American History know this. I guess that is not taught where they sell the tests.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like PREPPED test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

Fixed that for you.

I never understand just picking on test.

You can bump up GPA with tutoring.
You can spend $$$ for fancy ECs, research activity, private coaches
You can hire professional writerse for essays

In fact, again and agan Aisans had higher scores on almost all factors including ECs, leadership, interview, etc.

Asians get more tutoring than anyone, so your point is lost.

yes they care and value educaiton. they spend more money on education than Nike sneakers, so what??

I value education but I do draw the line. These are just kids. I don’t buy expensive shoes. But I tend to shy away from a rat race for kids, they’ll have time to discover how competitive life is while in college.

Every kid is different and parents know their kids the best.
You do you what's best for your kids.
Why are you trying to control other families??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like PREPPED test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

Fixed that for you.

I never understand just picking on test.

You can bump up GPA with tutoring.
You can spend $$$ for fancy ECs, research activity, private coaches
You can hire professional writerse for essays

In fact, again and agan Aisans had higher scores on almost all factors including ECs, leadership, interview, etc.

Asians get more tutoring than anyone, so your point is lost.

yes they care and value educaiton. they spend more money on education than Nike sneakers, so what??

Bet you can tell me the price of buying the tests from the prep place. Hope it was worth it.

People care more about the education deserve better school. Plain and simple.
You can wear your fancy Nike basketball sneakers and go to a lesser school.

Damn. Now we know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like PREPPED test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

Fixed that for you.

I never understand just picking on test.

You can bump up GPA with tutoring.
You can spend $$$ for fancy ECs, research activity, private coaches
You can hire professional writerse for essays

In fact, again and agan Aisans had higher scores on almost all factors including ECs, leadership, interview, etc.

Asians get more tutoring than anyone, so your point is lost.

yes they care and value educaiton. they spend more money on education than Nike sneakers, so what??

I value education but I do draw the line. These are just kids. I don’t buy expensive shoes. But I tend to shy away from a rat race for kids, they’ll have time to discover how competitive life is while in college.

Every kid is different and parents know their kids the best.
You do you what's best for your kids.
Why are you trying to control other families??

Pot, meet kettle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like PREPPED test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

Fixed that for you.

I never understand just picking on test.

You can bump up GPA with tutoring.
You can spend $$$ for fancy ECs, research activity, private coaches
You can hire professional writerse for essays

In fact, again and agan Aisans had higher scores on almost all factors including ECs, leadership, interview, etc.

Asians get more tutoring than anyone, so your point is lost.

yes they care and value educaiton. they spend more money on education than Nike sneakers, so what??

Tony Hsieh (Taiwanese) made nearly one billion dollars selling Nike sneakers.

Maybe chill a little on the mud flinging and aspersions, okay?

[Anonymous]

I think all the Chinese and Russians should be allowed free education in all top U.S. colleges.

Then, they can go home and use it against the U.S.

Good idea, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like PREPPED test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

Fixed that for you.

I never understand just picking on test.

You can bump up GPA with tutoring.
You can spend $$$ for fancy ECs, research activity, private coaches
You can hire professional writerse for essays

In fact, again and agan Aisans had higher scores on almost all factors including ECs, leadership, interview, etc.

You know what happened last time in history people thought they were they superior race?

nothing to do with superior race.
they acived higher scores because they cared more and worked harder

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like PREPPED test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

Fixed that for you.

I never understand just picking on test.

You can bump up GPA with tutoring.
You can spend $$$ for fancy ECs, research activity, private coaches
You can hire professional writerse for essays

In fact, again and agan Aisans had higher scores on almost all factors including ECs, leadership, interview, etc.

Asians get more tutoring than anyone, so your point is lost.

yes they care and value educaiton. they spend more money on education than Nike sneakers, so what??

And this is where I become so angry. SO MANY ethnic groups "care and value education".
That Asians honestly believe that they are the only ones that do, makes me think ugly thoughts about Asians.
We are all more alike than we are different. We all want what is best for our kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

It’s amusing some people think anything will meaningfully change. It’s not like PREPPED test scores and gpas will suddenly rule all.

Fixed that for you.

I never understand just picking on test.

You can bump up GPA with tutoring.
You can spend $$$ for fancy ECs, research activity, private coaches
You can hire professional writerse for essays

In fact, again and agan Aisans had higher scores on almost all factors including ECs, leadership, interview, etc.

Asians get more tutoring than anyone, so your point is lost.

yes they care and value educaiton. they spend more money on education than Nike sneakers, so what??

Tony Hsieh (Taiwanese) made nearly one billion dollars selling Nike sneakers.

Maybe chill a little on the mud flinging and aspersions, okay?

AND RACISM, TOO.

Our people suck, our schools suck - maybe tell us what else? You just like our colleges?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most notable recent export from Asian countries to the United States has been a crazily hyperintensified form of academics-based concerted cultivation that leads to mental illness among teens and shatters family relationships. Whole grind and drill-and-kill thing based on the avoidable misconception that in America, as in China, there is a single set of high-stakes, "objective" test and performance numbers that determine one's career and life prospects. When the misconception collides with reality, it's time to file lawsuits. Why not accept that the positive aspects of America that drew you here are worth preserving? Perhaps a different educational model was actually at the heart of something potentially valuable in the U.S. culture/economy that enticed you to start a new life in Bethesda or wherever?

It’s amazing that in a post about racial discrimination, you can so cluelessly spout racial invective. These stereotypes are *the reason* the Court did what it did. Congrats!