A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’
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Anonymous
Ok. The NYT and Washington Post have opinion pages designed to maximize attention and profit. That’s why they’re filled with rightwing liars like Bret Stephens, Henry Olsen, Marc Thiessen, and Megan McArdle. Meanwhile, Rupert Murdoch’s WSJ is basically only right wing liars. Not a single honest smart person is employed by WSJ Opiniom, which is designed to lie to suckers to get them to vote for Murdoch’s preferred pro-billionaire policies. You can stop waiting and sit down now. |
Anonymous
And yet the net worth on average of a white household with a high school education is still higher than Black and Latinos with a degree. So what is a working class white man’s incentive to pursue higher education? |
Anonymous
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Rupert Murdoch’s WSJ wrote a story whose intention is to make males feel scared and weak and oppressed by scary liberal institutions of actual learning?
I am shocked, shocked, I tell you. |
Anonymous
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The lack of a college degree really held back Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Ted Turner, Michael Dell, and David Geffen from any real success. Poor guys.
A lot of these guys figured out what top-level NBA players know: superstars are wasting their time if they stick around college for four years. |
Anonymous
So because a few people were super-successful without finishing college, there's no value in college education for everyone else? |
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Unpopular opinion here:
Not all men are meant to go to college. The trades will always be needed and can be lucrative. If the working classes would vote with their true interests in mind to get better healthcare and labor laws, then they’d be even better. I don’t think a large number of men would ever be happy in intelectual fields when they could be working with their hands. A lot of men are simple and just want to be left alone to do their work and make money for their families. The thinking should be left to the (physically) weaker sex making most of the financial and childrearing decisions in families. Women tend to look out for the collective and will make better leadership decisions anyway. I think this is the future. |
Anonymous
It’s appease them. It worked so well for Europe in the 1930s. |
Anonymous
| ^Let’s |
Anonymous
It’s this type of BS that sends the wrong message. The average male or female, by definition, is not a superstar. College matters for the average person. Unfortunately, there is a loud group on the right that now disparages college as elitist, feminist nonsense and promotes anti-intellectual, anti-scientific BS and the notion that boys can do better by starting YouTube channels, selling crap on Amazon, learning a trade, or being a hack programmer. Sounds like a horrible recipe for society. |
Anonymous
This reasoning is super F’d up. Who is most successful at getting jobs at companies these guys started? Last time I checked, a degree from a selective school is the best ticket to the best jobs at Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, and Oracle. Your exceptions prove the rule, not the other way around. As for future NBA players, they never were interested in college. They attended because it was the way to the league. Now that the rules allow a quicker exit from college, they’re doing that. There should be a separate minor league for NBA hopefuls. |
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A lot of far left posters on page 5 - perhaps the same guy or gal over and over again.
"The thinking should be left to the (physically) weaker sex making most of the financial and childrearing decisions in families. Women tend to look out for the collective and will make better leadership decisions anyway. I think this is the future." The above quote has to be the stupidest statement ever written. The technological marvel that is the world today was crafted by men. Since women got the vote, our country has taken a nose dive. |
Anonymous
| “in general it has been the men who have done the raping and the robbing and the killing and the war-mongering for the last two thousand years.... and it's been the men who have done the pillaging and the beheading and the subjecating of whole races into slavery. It has been the men who have done the law making and the money making and the most of the mischief making! So if the world isn't quite what you had in mind you have only yourselves to thank!!” — Julia Sugarbaker |
Anonymous
| There's some bizarre rationalization and bias on this thread. I have 2 boys and was surprised as we started gathering info about colleges about how skewed the gender balance is. For liberal arts colleges, it's particularly true for liberal arts schools but it also is the case for some of the larger universities my son is looking at: AU, BU, GWU, Univ of Washington, UC Davis, etc etc. At most schools, the gender balance is about 55-45, but at some it is as skewed as 60-40. I looked at the numbers for applications, acceptances, and enrollment, and there isn't a big difference in most cases. So no bump for male applicants. I have to admit that I was a little surprised by this since there is a lot of talk about 'holistic admissions' and the active efforts of many schools to build student bodies with racial, ethnic, geographic, socioeconomic, etc diversity. |
Anonymous
Oh, please! Men are getting into the same schools with on average lower SATS/GPAs, they still earn on average 1.25% for the exact same job. They are still wildly overrepresented in positions of power in every field bc those who were in power before tend to picture men as leaders etc. If the tides are turning ever so slightly (which still remains to be seen--as soon as white men aren't getting into good colleges they will --are--deem them now unnecessary etc.). |
Anonymous
+1 |