A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the mother of three boys, this whiny-nonsense pisses me off. My boys don’t feel this way since I raised them to see everyone as an equal and they never expected to be treated or judged more favorably than anyone else.

Parents failed these young men who feel defeated so young.

It’s not that they aren’t treated more favorably, it’s that they are treated less so

Wow, what a novel ideas, being treated less so. Try being treated as non deserving 2nd class citizen. Welcome to the world where every non-white, straight male is living in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this is the way it should be. Women aren’t being held down and straight, white boys aren’t getting a free pass to higher education.

About time.

Except the article mentioned it’s happening to boys across all racial and socio-economic lines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WSJ.

Everyone knows their opinion pages are full of extreme-right drivel.

Ignore.

They are quoting admissions rates at universities, and those same universities also publish that information on their own websites. The data is real.

[Anonymous]

It's called affirmative action. It's working to discourage men and whites at all levels of education and employment, just as designed. American women and minorities keep the pressure on big education and business as if they're being discriminated against ("It's the kind you can't see or hear and the statistics don't show it....but it's there"). Leftists feel the "enlightened view" is to discriminate against males and whites so this will continue. Feminists and other men haters should greet this news with joy. In fact, they probably think it hasn't gone far enough, after all - 2 wrongs make a right. Of course, when these women look for mates, statistically they tend to favor those who make more $$$ than them. There will be fewer men available who fit that bill. Maybe they can all become lesbians. Ahhh progress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's called affirmative action. It's working to discourage men and whites at all levels of education and employment, just as designed. American women and minorities keep the pressure on big education and business as if they're being discriminated against ("It's the kind you can't see or hear and the statistics don't show it....but it's there"). Leftists feel the "enlightened view" is to discriminate against males and whites so this will continue. Feminists and other men haters should greet this news with joy. In fact, they probably think it hasn't gone far enough, after all - 2 wrongs make a right. Of course, when these women look for mates, statistically they tend to favor those who make more $$$ than them. There will be fewer men available who fit that bill. Maybe they can all become lesbians. Ahhh progress.

What a gem you are. Let’s hope you don’t have a sister, a daughter, niece who needs to get a foothold in the man’s world. You are definitely one for any ladies to take a pass one even if you are the only man left in this world. Pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's called affirmative action. It's working to discourage men and whites at all levels of education and employment, just as designed. American women and minorities keep the pressure on big education and business as if they're being discriminated against ("It's the kind you can't see or hear and the statistics don't show it....but it's there"). Leftists feel the "enlightened view" is to discriminate against males and whites so this will continue. Feminists and other men haters should greet this news with joy. In fact, they probably think it hasn't gone far enough, after all - 2 wrongs make a right. Of course, when these women look for mates, statistically they tend to favor those who make more $$$ than them. There will be fewer men available who fit that bill. Maybe they can all become lesbians. Ahhh progress.

Nah. It’s just that adolescent boys are getting caught in a vortex of video game, internet, pornography, and social media addictions. Their brains may be more susceptible to these problems than adolescent girls, who don’t seem to be as distracted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WSJ.

Everyone knows their opinion pages are full of extreme-right drivel.

Ignore.

Ooh, now tell us about the NYT and Washington Post. Tell us how unbiased and straightforward they are. We'll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ever notice how when women are “behind” in something, it’s usually framed in a way that minimizes the amount of control that women have over their situation. But, when men fall behind, they are assumed fully responsible for their apparent misfortune.

Yes. I have no doubt that the very people complaining on this thread about men being a "bunch of whiners" are all too happy to play the woman-as-victim role in their own daily lives. It's sickening.
- a woman who is NOT a victim

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's called affirmative action. It's working to discourage men and whites at all levels of education and employment, just as designed. American women and minorities keep the pressure on big education and business as if they're being discriminated against ("It's the kind you can't see or hear and the statistics don't show it....but it's there"). Leftists feel the "enlightened view" is to discriminate against males and whites so this will continue. Feminists and other men haters should greet this news with joy. In fact, they probably think it hasn't gone far enough, after all - 2 wrongs make a right. Of course, when these women look for mates, statistically they tend to favor those who make more $$$ than them. There will be fewer men available who fit that bill. Maybe they can all become lesbians. Ahhh progress.

What a gem you are. Let’s hope you don’t have a sister, a daughter, niece who needs to get a foothold in the man’s world. You are definitely one for any ladies to take a pass one even if you are the only man left in this world. Pathetic.

Oh, good grief. It isn't a "man's world" and hasn't been one for some time now. Grow up.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this is the way it should be. Women aren’t being held down and straight, white boys aren’t getting a free pass to higher education.

About time.

Except the article mentioned it’s happening to boys across all racial and socio-economic lines.

+1
Sssh... it's only good news if it's holding WHITE boys/men back. Not so much if they're POC.

[Anonymous]

But is it even across different SES communities? I would think that if it is the distractions having an effect it would be more pronounced in lower SES families where students have to be more self motivated to go to college, they don’t have all the supports and expectations that are in higher SES families. I could see young women having a real advantage.

[Anonymous]

From the article:
"Enrollment rates for poor and working-class white men are lower than those of young Black, Latino and Asian men from the same economic backgrounds, according to an analysis of census data by the Pell Institute for the Journal."

"Some schools are quietly trying programs to enroll more men, but there is scant campus support for spending resources to boost male attendance and retention."

"Young men get little help, in part, because schools are focused on encouraging historically underrepresented students. Jerlando Jackson, department chair, Education Leadership and Policy Analysis, at the University of Wisconsin’s School of Education, said few campuses have been willing to spend limited funds on male underachievement that would also benefit white men, risking criticism for assisting those who have historically held the biggest educational advantages.

“As a country, we don’t have the tools yet to help white men who find themselves needing help,” Dr. Jackson said. “To be in a time when there are groups of white men that are falling through the cracks, it’s hard.”

"In 2008, Mr. Smith proposed a men’s center to help male students succeed. The proposal drew criticism from women who asked, “Why would you give more resources to the most privileged group on campus,” he said.

Funding wasn’t appropriated, he said, and the center was never built."

[Anonymous]

Isn’t this because more men go into the trades? It makes sense to me.

[Anonymous]

Most of the blue collar trade jobs are being taken by illegal aliens working off someone else's license. They have also been responsible for lowering wages in said fields. The best you can hope for is a union trade but typically you have to have an "in" to get an apprenticeship with these union trades and they are few and far between. America is not a developing nation and just doesn't have the need for huge numbers of blue collar workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But is it even across different SES communities? I would think that if it is the distractions having an effect it would be more pronounced in lower SES families where students have to be more self motivated to go to college, they don’t have all the supports and expectations that are in higher SES families. I could see young women having a real advantage.

One excuse after another. SES, or they want to go into trades, or they're not applying, etc,etc.

Now imagine if the article said it was POC admissions are low at colleges instead of men. Would we start trying to blame SES, going into trades, etc?