A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

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Anonymous wrote:I can only speak to my Big 10 alma mater but the college of engineering graduation we attended appeared to be like literally 90% Indian and Asian kids, both foreign and domestic born. In a state that's over 90% white and black.

But that doesn’t show all of the Asian kids who are struggling either because of burnout, mental illness, or learning disabilities. The myth of the model minority really hurts Asian kids —particularly boys.

nobody said anything about a model minority
the explanation is that engineering is very hard and only kids with very strict work ethic can graduate ... those cultures have a different view on work and educate their kids that there's no other way
MC and UMC white families spoil their kids, private school, etc, but think that the work should be primarily done by tutors, counselors, etc

WTF? where do you get your material?

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The problem with the situation is that there is no actual effort being made to determine why this is happening. The issue needs to be studied, but instead we've got this thread where posters can make irresponsible speculations. The Feds should fund a study and get some real answers.

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Anonymous wrote:This would be my son’s dream school...

https://yscacademy.com/soccer/programs/

Not to be a professional athlete but to have a sport incorporated into his day in a consistent fashion.

so the reason boys aren't going to college is because they aren't able to play sports in college?

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Anonymous wrote:+1, people don't seem to mention that Affirmative Action policy includes women, white women in particular, so of course women would leap frog men in certain fields and industry. It's time to reverse it .
They just need to implement affirmative action for men. They do it all the time for AA and Hispanic students. Just lower the standards and problem solved.

I keep seeing people say white women are supposedly the beneficiaries of Affirmative Action, literally never seen the data to prove it. In what World?

The primary beneficiaries of affirmative action have been Euro-American women," wrote Columbia University law professor Kimberlé Crenshaw for the University of Michigan Law Review in 2006.

A 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee found that white women held a majority of managerial jobs (57,250) compared with African Americans (10,500), Latinos (19,000), and Asian Americans (24,600) after the first two decades of affirmative action in the private sector. In 2015, a disproportionate representation of white women business owners set off concerns that New York state would not be able to bridge a racial gap among public contractors.

A 1995 report by the Department of Labor found that 6 million women overall had advances at their job that would not have been possible without affirmative action. The percentage of women physicians tripled between 1970 and 2002, from 7.6 percent to 25.2 percent, and in 2009 women were receiving a majority of bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees, according to the American Association of University Women. To be clear, these numbers include women of all races; however, breaking down affirmative action beneficiaries by race and gender seems to be rare in reported data.

Contrary to popular belief, affirmative action isn't just black. It's white, too. But affirmative action's white female faces are rarely at the center of the conversation.

https://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/11682950/fisher-supreme-court-white-women-affirmative-action

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But affirmative action has been quite beneficial to women, and disproportionately beneficial to white women. Women are now more likely to graduate with bachelor’s degrees and attend graduate school than men are and outnumber men on many college campuses. In 1970, just 7.6 percent of physicians in America were women; in 2002, that number had risen to 25.2 percent. But — and this is a big but — those benefits are more likely to accrue to white women than they are to women of color, and that imbalance has very real effects on employment and earnings later in life. In other words: affirmative action works, and it works way better for white women than it does for all the other women in America.
But white women have made a practice of publicly objecting to affirmative action policies. As researcher Jessie McDaniel notes, since the landmark 1978 Supreme Court case Regents of the University of California v. Bakke, in which the court ruled that race may be factored into university admissions, “the people suing universities for discrimination in the academic admissions process have been white women: Abigail Fisher; Barbara Grutter (Grutter v. Bollinger); Jennifer Gratz (Gratz v. Bollinger) and Cheryl Hopwood (Hopwood v. Texas).” Those landmark cases challenged university affirmative action programs in Michigan and Texas, respectively.
And those women are far from alone in believing that a system that’s designed to help them and has helped lots of women like them has actually robbed them of something that’s rightfully theirs — and should be dismantled as a consequence. In fact, they’re more likely than white men in their age group to object.[/quote]

https://imdiversity.com/diversity-news/affirmative-action-is-great-for-white-women-so-why-do-they-hate-it/

Looks affirmative action is the reason white women have made so much gains and is one of the major reason white women out number men in college. The thing is white women do not think it applies them. There are a ton of articles and studies that show white women benefit the most from affirmative action.

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But affirmative action has been quite beneficial to women, and disproportionately beneficial to white women. Women are now more likely to graduate with bachelor’s degrees and attend graduate school than men are and outnumber men on many college campuses. In 1970, just 7.6 percent of physicians in America were women; in 2002, that number had risen to 25.2 percent. But — and this is a big but — those benefits are more likely to accrue to white women than they are to women of color, and that imbalance has very real effects on employment and earnings later in life. In other words: affirmative action works, and it works way better for white women than it does for all the other women in America.
But white women have made a practice of publicly objecting to affirmative action policies. As researcher Jessie McDaniel notes, since the landmark 1978 Supreme Court case Regents of the University of California v. Bakke, in which the court ruled that race may be factored into university admissions, “the people suing universities for discrimination in the academic admissions process have been white women: Abigail Fisher; Barbara Grutter (Grutter v. Bollinger); Jennifer Gratz (Gratz v. Bollinger) and Cheryl Hopwood (Hopwood v. Texas).” Those landmark cases challenged university affirmative action programs in Michigan and Texas, respectively.
And those women are far from alone in believing that a system that’s designed to help them and has helped lots of women like them has actually robbed them of something that’s rightfully theirs — and should be dismantled as a consequence. In fact, they’re more likely than white men in their age group to object.[/quote]

https://imdiversity.com/diversity-news/affirmative-action-is-great-for-white-women-so-why-do-they-hate-it/

Looks affirmative action is the reason white women have made so much gains and is one of the major reason white women out number men in college. The thing is white women do not think it applies them. There are a ton of articles and studies that show white women benefit the most from affirmative action.

Of course. This is why I don't take White people's qualms about "aFfIrMative action is rAcIsT" seriously LOL