Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?

[Anonymous]

The disrespect for police officers on this thread is truly disgusting. You all talk about cops as if every single one is a bad seed. There are some very good cops. Don’t be swayed by the agenda of the media and progressives. Maybe some of what they say is true, but much of it is hyperbole and should be viewed with skepticism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The disrespect for police officers on this thread is truly disgusting. You all talk about cops as if every single one is a bad seed. There are some very good cops. Don’t be swayed by the agenda of the media and progressives. Maybe some of what they say is true, but much of it is hyperbole and should be viewed with skepticism.

I don't think you actually read the thread. The fact that some of it is true is the problem. Bad cops are way to difficult to fire and they make everyone less safe: the public and their colleagues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The disrespect for police officers on this thread is truly disgusting. You all talk about cops as if every single one is a bad seed. There are some very good cops. Don’t be swayed by the agenda of the media and progressives. Maybe some of what they say is true, but much of it is hyperbole and should be viewed with skepticism.

If 99 men meet with one Nazi, there you have 100 Nazis.

[Anonymous]

These measures don’t go far enough. They are charmin soft. Otherwise there would be a mass # of resignations. When that happens you know the right buttons have been pushed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These measures don’t go far enough. They are charmin soft. Otherwise there would be a mass # of resignations. When that happens you know the right buttons have been pushed.

Assuming you are a proponent for defunding the police?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The disrespect for police officers on this thread is truly disgusting. You all talk about cops as if every single one is a bad seed. There are some very good cops. Don’t be swayed by the agenda of the media and progressives. Maybe some of what they say is true, but much of it is hyperbole and should be viewed with skepticism.

The cliche is that "one bad apple spoils the bunch." If you're that upset about the PR problem the bad seeds are causing for the vast majority of "good cops," your focus should be on getting them off the force, which the MD law is one very small step toward doing.

[Anonymous]

As long as the "blue wall of silence" is a thing, why shouldn't all of them be lumped together? If good cops will not separate themselves from bad cops, why should anyone else bother to do so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The disrespect for police officers on this thread is truly disgusting. You all talk about cops as if every single one is a bad seed. There are some very good cops. Don’t be swayed by the agenda of the media and progressives. Maybe some of what they say is true, but much of it is hyperbole and should be viewed with skepticism.

Agreed.

I really expect better of the well-educated folks in the DMV. I really do. This is a much more complex issue than what almost every advocate and politician are acknowledging. We can't be this ignorant, can we? Or so emotionally-driven to make change without understanding unintended consequences?

Most cops are good cops.
Most cops are trying to help people.
Most cops are responding to calls that other people made -- they have no choice but to engage.

Now, there are evidence-based policies and protocols that can make policing safer for everyone. And some policies that can reduce disparities. People need to stop demonizing the individual cops and look more at where systems can change. And this police reform package does that. It's changing systems. A disciplinary system. A lot of it is needed. Unions have too much power right now and the challenge of holding bad cops accountable is real. But IMO the reform goes a bit far.

Having said that, holding cops accountable won't matter much if you don't support and invest in good policing and good police. They need to know they are backed by local leaders. Local leaders actually can do both support cops and hold them accountable. And good cops want departments to be held accountable. Do you think hearing about the Pentagon police officer killing two people helps other cops out on the street? Police are getting assaulted in Montgomery County while they just try to do their jobs. Perhaps elsewhere too. We really have much more in common than we think. Good policing, good accountability. It can be done. But it can't be done by political opportunists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As long as the "blue wall of silence" is a thing, why shouldn't all of them be lumped together? If good cops will not separate themselves from bad cops, why should anyone else bother to do so?

The union wall of shielding people from discipline is a much bigger problem than any blue wall of silence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The disrespect for police officers on this thread is truly disgusting. You all talk about cops as if every single one is a bad seed. There are some very good cops. Don’t be swayed by the agenda of the media and progressives. Maybe some of what they say is true, but much of it is hyperbole and should be viewed with skepticism.

If 99 men meet with one Nazi, there you have 100 Nazis.

Does your rationale include carjacking teens whose out of control, criminal behaviors result in the deaths of innocent victims?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not concerned for me, because living in a ‘nice’ neighborhood, cops are going to be here when we need them. Sadly it’s the places where they are needed the most that would suffer if they can’t hire enough.
But, it’s a valid point...why should anyone in their job get a free pass on stepping on people’s rights. Maybe Duncan Lemp would still be alive.
While I’d be quite happy being a detective, being a beat-cop shoveling crap all day long....forget about it!

I live in a not-nice neighborhood and our current crop of officers who violate rights, use excessive force, and assume all youth are criminals ensure through their actions that they are not able to function effectively in our community. Officers show up after a crime and complain that no one in the neighborhood will talk to them. Well, are you going to share sensitive information with the guy who beat up your nephew for no reason?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not concerned for me, because living in a ‘nice’ neighborhood, cops are going to be here when we need them. Sadly it’s the places where they are needed the most that would suffer if they can’t hire enough.
But, it’s a valid point...why should anyone in their job get a free pass on stepping on people’s rights. Maybe Duncan Lemp would still be alive.
While I’d be quite happy being a detective, being a beat-cop shoveling crap all day long....forget about it!

I live in a not-nice neighborhood and our current crop of officers who violate rights, use excessive force, and assume all youth are criminals ensure through their actions that they are not able to function effectively in our community. Officers show up after a crime and complain that no one in the neighborhood will talk to them. Well, are you going to share sensitive information with the guy who beat up your nephew for no reason?

That young man was walking down the street and a cop grabbed him and beat him up for no reason?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disrespect for police officers on this thread is truly disgusting. You all talk about cops as if every single one is a bad seed. There are some very good cops. Don’t be swayed by the agenda of the media and progressives. Maybe some of what they say is true, but much of it is hyperbole and should be viewed with skepticism.

If 99 men meet with one Nazi, there you have 100 Nazis.

Fascinating.

Does this also mean that if 99 democrats meet with one Marxist, you have 100 Marxists?


“No! That’s totally different!!!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as the "blue wall of silence" is a thing, why shouldn't all of them be lumped together? If good cops will not separate themselves from bad cops, why should anyone else bother to do so?

The union wall of shielding people from discipline is a much bigger problem than any blue wall of silence.

That isn't what the post above was addressing.

The "not all cops" posts are tiresome. That is what the post above was addressing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it amusing that just 3 short months ago, DCUM was all about “supporting and defending the police against those violent Jan 6 protesters”.... and here we are, 3 months later, and it’s back to laughing at and condemning cops.

Some allies you turned out to be.

I seem to recall that the cops who were defending the capitol building were not the ones I have read about who are abusing power.

I think people are supportive of the good guy cops, and we'd really like them to be able to do the work they committed to without as$h0le bad apples at their sides.

Is that so hard to understand? Exactly how black and white is your world?

Tell that to the poster of the meme on page 1.

I’m not the one justifying my dislike of cops. That’s you.

It’s a f-ing joke, lighten up. I love that you’re more concerned with a meme than you are about holding cops accountable for criminal behavior.