With teachers vaccinated, why are we still talking about hybrid, and not a full return to school?

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Anonymous wrote:Vaccinating teachers only ensures safety for teachers. The problem is that many parents and grandparents have not been vaccinated yet so if a kid gets COVID at school and brings it home, they may be infecting a multi-generational household (some that may be high risk).


Then those kids can stay virtual. I don't have those concerns for my children.


That’s good for you, but you’d be excluding the most vulnerable children from school.


DP. Then what is it, exactly, that you want?? Everyone to stay virtual? Not happening. Feel free to keep yours at home.
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Anonymous wrote:Vaccinating teachers only ensures safety for teachers. The problem is that many parents and grandparents have not been vaccinated yet so if a kid gets COVID at school and brings it home, they may be infecting a multi-generational household (some that may be high risk).


Then those kids can stay virtual. I don't have those concerns for my children.



This is what all of the UMC families I know are saying. They've been with their kids for almost an entire year. They are done!


What does UMC stand for?


It stands for rich.

Lower class and middle class families are the ones who have born the brunt of this pandemic. We're the ones scared for our loved ones, because we live together, and because many of us have already experienced loss. We're also the ones aware that our kids will be potential spreaders because we're exposed at work.

But by all means, let's come up with a plan that prioritizes rich kids, who have private school options and large houses with yards to play in. Because they're done.


DP. So then, you think ALL kids should remain virtual because you want YOUR kids to? Um, no. Feel free to keep your kids DL. The rest of us do not have to.


I believe this attitude among the well off can be summarized as, "I've got mine, f*ck you."

What a great country.
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But seriously - you’re actually saying “my kids won’t go back, therefore it’s not fair for anyone’s kids to go back.” Do you even hear yourself? DL will continue to be an option. What’s stopping you from continuing with it while others choose to return? Do you actually think the world revolves around you?
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Anonymous wrote:For me the idea is that I don't want teachers, who are more susceptible to the virus, to die. But I'd also prefer if kids kept apart from one another and stayed as safe as possible so that unsymptomatic kids who have Covid do not transmit the disease overmuch to one another and to their own households, spreading the disease even more.

This seems very simple to me, not sure what you're not understanding. We shouldn't have all kids back at school right away or the distance and safety regs will absolutely not be in force and transmission rates will increase.


Exactly this. I would prefer not to catch COVID from my asymptomatic (or symptomatic but unlikely to be seriously ill) teenager. This is why distancing and masks will still be necessary. What is it that people don't understand about this?


No one said distancing and masks won’t still be necessary. What is this bizarre strawman??
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Anonymous wrote:For me the idea is that I don't want teachers, who are more susceptible to the virus, to die. But I'd also prefer if kids kept apart from one another and stayed as safe as possible so that unsymptomatic kids who have Covid do not transmit the disease overmuch to one another and to their own households, spreading the disease even more.

This seems very simple to me, not sure what you're not understanding. We shouldn't have all kids back at school right away or the distance and safety regs will absolutely not be in force and transmission rates will increase.


Exactly this. I would prefer not to catch COVID from my asymptomatic (or symptomatic but unlikely to be seriously ill) teenager. This is why distancing and masks will still be necessary. What is it that people don't understand about this?


No one said distancing and masks won’t still be necessary. What is this bizarre strawman??


+100.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For me the idea is that I don't want teachers, who are more susceptible to the virus, to die. But I'd also prefer if kids kept apart from one another and stayed as safe as possible so that unsymptomatic kids who have Covid do not transmit the disease overmuch to one another and to their own households, spreading the disease even more.

This seems very simple to me, not sure what you're not understanding. We shouldn't have all kids back at school right away or the distance and safety regs will absolutely not be in force and transmission rates will increase.


Exactly this. I would prefer not to catch COVID from my asymptomatic (or symptomatic but unlikely to be seriously ill) teenager. This is why distancing and masks will still be necessary. What is it that people don't understand about this?


No one said distancing and masks won’t still be necessary. What is this bizarre strawman??


Even in France where they are concerned enough about the new variants to require kids to wear medical-grade masks, they are still using 3' spacing and only closing down classes for 3 or more cases of most variants (to include that out of the UK), but 1 case of the South African or Brazilian variant. 6' is the CDC's gold standard, but hardly a universal imperative.
Anonymous
If you don't want to get sick quit and work at an online school
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For me the idea is that I don't want teachers, who are more susceptible to the virus, to die. But I'd also prefer if kids kept apart from one another and stayed as safe as possible so that unsymptomatic kids who have Covid do not transmit the disease overmuch to one another and to their own households, spreading the disease even more.

This seems very simple to me, not sure what you're not understanding. We shouldn't have all kids back at school right away or the distance and safety regs will absolutely not be in force and transmission rates will increase.


Exactly this. I would prefer not to catch COVID from my asymptomatic (or symptomatic but unlikely to be seriously ill) teenager. This is why distancing and masks will still be necessary. What is it that people don't understand about this?


No one said distancing and masks won’t still be necessary. What is this bizarre strawman??


+100.


FFS, that is what this whole thread is about. The reason we can't have a full return to school is because distancing is necessary. That's the answer to the OP's question.
Anonymous
My kids teacher is amost fully vaccinated but fighting to remain remote.. infuriating..
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Anonymous wrote:My kids teacher is amost fully vaccinated but fighting to remain remote.. infuriating..


Yep and they’re skipping the lines and pushing back people who are borderline high risk. Mostly people who are in borderline age groups, 65-75 year olds depending on your state and who’s eligible. And some people with high risk conditions too. My friend is an organ transplant recipient and can’t get a vaccine in Illinois.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids teacher is amost fully vaccinated but fighting to remain remote.. infuriating..


Yep and they’re skipping the lines and pushing back people who are borderline high risk. Mostly people who are in borderline age groups, 65-75 year olds depending on your state and who’s eligible. And some people with high risk conditions too. My friend is an organ transplant recipient and can’t get a vaccine in Illinois.


I'm sorry - so wrong
Anonymous
Are they getting vaccinated? I think they are not. As a matter of fact very few are able to secure appts.


where are the vaccinations?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For me the idea is that I don't want teachers, who are more susceptible to the virus, to die. But I'd also prefer if kids kept apart from one another and stayed as safe as possible so that unsymptomatic kids who have Covid do not transmit the disease overmuch to one another and to their own households, spreading the disease even more.

This seems very simple to me, not sure what you're not understanding. We shouldn't have all kids back at school right away or the distance and safety regs will absolutely not be in force and transmission rates will increase.


Exactly this. I would prefer not to catch COVID from my asymptomatic (or symptomatic but unlikely to be seriously ill) teenager. This is why distancing and masks will still be necessary. What is it that people don't understand about this?


No one said distancing and masks won’t still be necessary. What is this bizarre strawman??


+100.


FFS, that is what this whole thread is about. The reason we can't have a full return to school is because distancing is necessary. That's the answer to the OP's question.


There are ways to get 60% of FCPS kids who chose in-person into school with some distancing. Not 6’, but what if somewhat less than 6’ was enough? Or what if air purifiers and masks and keeping voices low is an answer instead? It isn’t all-virtual versus packed, unmasked hallways. There’s a world of possibilities in-between that many other school districts have managed.

It’s still have to be concurrent, though.

Don’t know the breakdown in other area districts to comment on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are they getting vaccinated? I think they are not. As a matter of fact very few are able to secure appts.


where are the vaccinations?


In what district are they having trouble? I thought most area districts worked out initial hiccups. One of my DC’s teachers already has 2 doses.
Anonymous
Because some of us are concerned about our children's health, our own health, and our close relatives' health.

Speaking as someone who was very sick with Covid several months ago.
Anonymous
Because dc teachers need their Wednesdays as vacation time.
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