Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bowser should not be deciding - by zip code (primarily to ensure she gets votes next time out) - whose life matters more.

It does not seem ethical that a 80 year old is "worth" less than a healthy 65 year old - simply due to zip code.

That is what Bowser policies are all about. Next round of votes. (Just like excluding DC private school teachers from vaccinations - public teachers only (despite their refusal to actually work).

All about the vote!

ability to access the internet to secure an appointment should not determine your “worth” and ability to get a vaccine. The people with more savvy and resources were able to scoop up all the appointments. ward or zip-based eligibility evens that out. and also, there just more virus in those wards, and hence more risk if you live there. focusing there makes sense from an epidemiological perspective. exactly the same as focusing on nursing homes makes sense.

Ha! You have no idea what you are talking about and are allowing emotion to cloud your reasoning. You even feel good about incorrectly using a big word "epidemiological".

You are also a racist. Congratulations. But you probably already knew that.

The fact that you think there is no internet access east of the river, or that Ward 3 septegenarians are more savvy than Ward 8 septegenarians is RACIST.

Look DC Health has already admitted it. There is no medical reason for allocating vaccinations based on race or zip codes. But it makes the woke masses feel better so the City Council and Mayor over ruled their own health experts.

This is a feel good story only and we are watching it crash in a fantastic effort to steal defeat from the Jaws of victory.

The funny thing is that now we can start seeing that even the original bad plan was better than this ad hoc secret we don't need to tell anybody anything plan.

But put on your rose color glasses and feel better about yourself. That is all you wanted anyway. Not an effective health policy.

oh, it’s the “you are racist if you discuss racial disparities” poster. bye felicia. Biden won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is certainly an argument to be made that the current DC vaccination registration web page discriminates against less computer savvy individuals, but there is no reasonable non biased argument that the portal access favors residents in one zip code or another.

If that were in fact the case, it could have been remedied by sign up kiosks in areas where there was unreliable access.

However, ISP penetration is just as pervasive on both sides of the river in DC. This is argument was simply made by people trying to woke and compassionate.

The same can be said for computer access and mobile phone access.

In fact the call center data shows far more phone call from West of the river, just like the computer logons, but again a statistician would say that should have been expected as there is a larger pool pf people west. Larger pool equals more phone calls equals more computer attempts equals more appointments made.

The huge question would have been if the opposite had occurred and the seniors from NW had decided not to register.

from a legal perspective - none of this really matters. there was a drastic disparity in vaccine uptake between races. that means that DC has to figure out what policies were creating that disparity, and remedy them. if that means prioritizing zip codes or wards, so be it.

[Anonymous]

"Legal Perspective"

What are you talking about. The city provided equal access.

Whoever said that real questions would have been raised had the reverse happened was correct.

Had the largest pool of people made the smallest number of appointments. Then we would have a problem. But now we simply have people behaving as we had anticipated.

I also agree with whoever said there should be an educational campaign. But all the city is required to do is provide access. Now it is trying to shape optics and results which has nothi g to do with good medicine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Legal Perspective"

What are you talking about. The city provided equal access.

Whoever said that real questions would have been raised had the reverse happened was correct.

Had the largest pool of people made the smallest number of appointments. Then we would have a problem. But now we simply have people behaving as we had anticipated.

I also agree with whoever said there should be an educational campaign. But all the city is required to do is provide access. Now it is trying to shape optics and results which has nothi g to do with good medicine.

it’s called “disparate impact”. look it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Legal Perspective"

What are you talking about. The city provided equal access.

Whoever said that real questions would have been raised had the reverse happened was correct.

Had the largest pool of people made the smallest number of appointments. Then we would have a problem. But now we simply have people behaving as we had anticipated.

I also agree with whoever said there should be an educational campaign. But all the city is required to do is provide access. Now it is trying to shape optics and results which has nothi g to do with good medicine.

it’s called “disparate impact”. look it up.

(and obviously it’s “good medicine” to take steps to ensure the populations where covid is more prevalent and severe is vaccinated.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Legal Perspective"

What are you talking about. The city provided equal access.

Whoever said that real questions would have been raised had the reverse happened was correct.

Had the largest pool of people made the smallest number of appointments. Then we would have a problem. But now we simply have people behaving as we had anticipated.

I also agree with whoever said there should be an educational campaign. But all the city is required to do is provide access. Now it is trying to shape optics and results which has nothi g to do with good medicine.

it’s called “disparate impact”. look it up.

NP. This is happening everywhere; it isn’t unique to DC. People who are internet savvy even KNOW about signing up. So many people everywhere have no clue how to even get on a list, much less get an appointment. The information is disseminated via social media for the most part or it requires a person to do internet digging and searching. This may come as such a shock but there are tons of people in DC and all over the country who can’t even get this part started.

This entire vaccine distribution shows the lack of equity everywhere.

[Anonymous]

I'm on the cleveland park listserv. Let me assure you that everyone in that neighborhood who posts is concerned about equity in the city. From what I gathered, there were no sites in Ward 3 for those residents who signed up. Seniors were having trouble safely getting to sites to be vaccinated and most people seem to not be able to get appointments. Not sure the details of any of this, but there isn't some nefarious motive here so chill out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:also the large homeless population and many of those who are without ID's

And the elderly and disabled

[Anonymous]

This is not the 1980s. The DMV is not a suburb in North Dakota. There is plenty of internet access in this city. Plenty of urgent care, hospitals and pharmacies. Per square mile and population - DC is actually an equitable place bs rest of country. Regardless of color of skin.

Personal responsibility. Obesity and smoking are not race specific. There are many, many resources in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is not the 1980s. The DMV is not a suburb in North Dakota. There is plenty of internet access in this city. Plenty of urgent care, hospitals and pharmacies. Per square mile and population - DC is actually an equitable place bs rest of country. Regardless of color of skin.

Personal responsibility. Obesity and smoking are not race specific. There are many, many resources in DC.

DC still has a massive digital divide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not the 1980s. The DMV is not a suburb in North Dakota. There is plenty of internet access in this city. Plenty of urgent care, hospitals and pharmacies. Per square mile and population - DC is actually an equitable place bs rest of country. Regardless of color of skin.

Personal responsibility. Obesity and smoking are not race specific. There are many, many resources in DC.

DC still has a massive digital divide.

Theres also a telephone call line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm on the cleveland park listserv. Let me assure you that everyone in that neighborhood who posts is concerned about equity in the city. From what I gathered, there were no sites in Ward 3 for those residents who signed up. Seniors were having trouble safely getting to sites to be vaccinated and most people seem to not be able to get appointments. Not sure the details of any of this, but there isn't some nefarious motive here so chill out.

Until they think it’s preventing them from getting a vaccine. There have been some truly disheartening, entitled posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not the 1980s. The DMV is not a suburb in North Dakota. There is plenty of internet access in this city. Plenty of urgent care, hospitals and pharmacies. Per square mile and population - DC is actually an equitable place bs rest of country. Regardless of color of skin.

Personal responsibility. Obesity and smoking are not race specific. There are many, many resources in DC.

DC still has a massive digital divide.

This is actually one of those fake statistics that sounds good but is far from true. We love bantying it about to prove how woke we are. In fact if you look up the actual statistics, DC has the highest broadband connectivity rate in the country. 99.0% of Washingtonian have access to broadband 100mps or faster. 42.3% have access to 1 gig broadband.

99.5% of Washingtonian have access to wireline service
74.8% have access to fiber
98.9% have access cable internet
93.6% have access to DSL

The stats are all available at industry pages like broadbandnow.com

So what does this all mean? There are about 6000 people in the city without access to speeds above 25mbps. About 3000 with no internet access period. It is in fact true that most of those 3000 people are either homeless, or live in Wards 5, 7 or 8.

But the divide is more or a term thrown around to apply leverage to other problems. There are abiut half a dozen programs that allow those 3000 people to walk in and get internet and computer services provided to their households for free should they want them.

The real scandal here is not the computer divide, but literacy. What good does computer access do if you can't read or know how to use a computer to execute tasks?

But talking literacy is not as self satisfying a talking digital divide.

You show me a house with no computers in it and I'll show you a house with no books.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not the 1980s. The DMV is not a suburb in North Dakota. There is plenty of internet access in this city. Plenty of urgent care, hospitals and pharmacies. Per square mile and population - DC is actually an equitable place bs rest of country. Regardless of color of skin.

Personal responsibility. Obesity and smoking are not race specific. There are many, many resources in DC.

DC still has a massive digital divide.

This is actually one of those fake statistics that sounds good but is far from true. We love bantying it about to prove how woke we are. In fact if you look up the actual statistics, DC has the highest broadband connectivity rate in the country. 99.0% of Washingtonian have access to broadband 100mps or faster. 42.3% have access to 1 gig broadband.

99.5% of Washingtonian have access to wireline service
74.8% have access to fiber
98.9% have access cable internet
93.6% have access to DSL

The stats are all available at industry pages like broadbandnow.com

So what does this all mean? There are about 6000 people in the city without access to speeds above 25mbps. About 3000 with no internet access period. It is in fact true that most of those 3000 people are either homeless, or live in Wards 5, 7 or 8.

But the divide is more or a term thrown around to apply leverage to other problems. There are abiut half a dozen programs that allow those 3000 people to walk in and get internet and computer services provided to their households for free should they want them.

The real scandal here is not the computer divide, but literacy. What good does computer access do if you can't read or know how to use a computer to execute tasks?

But talking literacy is not as self satisfying a talking digital divide.

You show me a house with no computers in it and I'll show you a house with no books.

So is your point here that people who don’t own any books shouldn’t have an easy time getting vaccinated?

[Anonymous]

For all you jerks out there. Fortunately there is DATA to look at to show vaccine uptake across the city, both in terms of absolute numbers and percentages.

https://coronavirus.dc.gov/data/vaccination

Both doses


First dose