zip code is a proxy for risk factors. prioritizing vaccine by zip codes with the highest infection and death rate is good public health policy for a number of reasons. |
Fully disagree. An old person with a heart condition in fancy ward 3 living with kids who work as, I dunno, a FED called into office and a teacher and have grandchildren in daycare is at exact same risk factor "boat" as their counterpart in Ward 8. SAME. |
Sigh. The point is - public health policy tries to get the vaccine to the greatest area of need in the quickest time. Trying to put the entire city into order by many different metrics might not meet that goal. Targeting high-need zip codes could be one appropriate tactic. |
Or high risk humans. Targeting zip codes completely loses the actual people involved. DC has had SINCE MARCH to.plan how to vaccinate the human being residents of the WHOLE CITY appropriately. So glad FEMA Ia taking over; no doubt will just be randomized. |
| Horse hockey. These "secret" sites are a little too good because every other email on my neighborhood listserv, that includes Ward 3, is some senior bitching about how they can't get a vaccine. Now they are screaming bloody murder because someone dared to suggest that Mayor Bowser needs to honor her commitment to include daycare workers who have been going to work during the pandemic in the group with teachers. More competition for them to get the vaccine! |
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These hospital sites, including ones not in Wrd 3 like washington hospital center, arent just drawing from Ward 3. They are drawing from patient lists across the city. It's weird that this is allowed, but has nothing to do with Ward 3. There are no official ward 3 sites.
As to daycare workers, low pay, non unionized, exposed throughout this thing, serving the WHOLE city, explain agaim why you dont support them? Many ward 3 have signed the petition. |
YES, and the problem with the initial plan was that the wealthier wards sucked up all the appointments, thereby creating additional inequities and not getting the vaccine as deeply into at-risk populations in poorer wards. If the goal is to spread the vaccine around the entire city and not just the wealthy areas, zip code set asides might help. We're talking about just getting the SAME number of people vaccinated. Heaven forbid we make an effort to get MORE vaccine to black, brown or poor people. |
What do you mean wealthy Wards "sucked" up more vaccine? Doesn't the data say that the Wards with the highest numbers of eligeable vaccine population received the most inoculations? |
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Bowser should not be deciding - by zip code (primarily to ensure she gets votes next time out) - whose life matters more.
It does not seem ethical that a 80 year old is "worth" less than a healthy 65 year old - simply due to zip code. That is what Bowser policies are all about. Next round of votes. (Just like excluding DC private school teachers from vaccinations - public teachers only (despite their refusal to actually work). All about the vote! |
ability to access the internet to secure an appointment should not determine your “worth” and ability to get a vaccine. The people with more savvy and resources were able to scoop up all the appointments. ward or zip-based eligibility evens that out. and also, there just more virus in those wards, and hence more risk if you live there. focusing there makes sense from an epidemiological perspective. exactly the same as focusing on nursing homes makes sense. |
Ha! You have no idea what you are talking about and are allowing emotion to cloud your reasoning. You even feel good about incorrectly using a big word "epidemiological". You are also a racist. Congratulations. But you probably already knew that. The fact that you think there is no internet access east of the river, or that Ward 3 septegenarians are more savvy than Ward 8 septegenarians is RACIST. Look DC Health has already admitted it. There is no medical reason for allocating vaccinations based on race or zip codes. But it makes the woke masses feel better so the City Council and Mayor over ruled their own health experts. This is a feel good story only and we are watching it crash in a fantastic effort to steal defeat from the Jaws of victory. The funny thing is that now we can start seeing that even the original bad plan was better than this ad hoc secret we don't need to tell anybody anything plan. But put on your rose color glasses and feel better about yourself. That is all you wanted anyway. Not an effective health policy. |
| Not sure why my spell checker took a perfectly correctly spelled septuagenarian and the spelled it with an e. Is that an alt spelling? |
| PP - well said. Ballsy but the truth. Love it! |
I know ward 3 seniors and there is zero secret site. DC amped up vaccines in wards 7 and 8. NYC increased vaccine sites in specific areas to attempt to get more AA-Hispanic vaccinated. If anything cities are decreasing availability in higher SES quadrants , wards, or zip codes. |
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There is certainly an argument to be made that the current DC vaccination registration web page discriminates against less computer savvy individuals, but there is no reasonable non biased argument that the portal access favors residents in one zip code or another.
If that were in fact the case, it could have been remedied by sign up kiosks in areas where there was unreliable access. However, ISP penetration is just as pervasive on both sides of the river in DC. This is argument was simply made by people trying to woke and compassionate. The same can be said for computer access and mobile phone access. In fact the call center data shows far more phone call from West of the river, just like the computer logons, but again a statistician would say that should have been expected as there is a larger pool pf people west. Larger pool equals more phone calls equals more computer attempts equals more appointments made. The huge question would have been if the opposite had occurred and the seniors from NW had decided not to register. |