Dating a Red Piller

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thanks y’all! I have decided to definitely end it. I appreciate the feedback and push in the right direction. I just can’t get over dating someone who would embrace this stuff. I’d always be waiting for the other shoe to drop.

[Anonymous]

Guy here. I'd just like to echo that what you read about it represents the extreme side of things, which doesn't represent the majority of people who read and take advice from it. There are generations of boys growing up without strong father figures or older brothers teaching them how to operate in the world. They have grown up in front of computers and do not know what it means to be a man.

It's impossible to explain this to women in a way that they can understand so I won't go further. We don't hate women. For myself, I never knew how to be a man based on my upbringing. Now I do and am happy.

[Anonymous]

It could be worse, OP.

I had to break up with my BF, who is a name most everyone here would recognize in politics though not a politician himself, for listening to Cum Town.

[Anonymous]

Op just realize that he may not want a committed relationship meaning living together and marriage, so if that's something you want perhaps you need to establish his views on that.

If he is only interested in dating, then perhaps you are wasting your time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

think a lot of young men read this stuff but a much smaller percentage are hardcore.

I’d always been friend zoned by women and always the reliable guy they could lean on and tell me about their breakups. In reading on how I could up my game I stumbled on this red pill stuff and, while I still have the same high level of respect for women, my approach is entirely different.

For example, I play the field more with women rather than ditching them all when one woman acts like she likes me. I’d been burned on that before when we break up and I’ve burned bridges.

Also, I don’t engage in chatty text messages, I let my intention be known in a nice way. I set a date and make the date. I don’t emote all of my feelings. I no longer text chat all day while I’m working. If I feel I’m not appreciated I don’t keep giving of myself. I used to be the guy several beautiful women would ask to move their furniture after they got railed by some guy who wasn’t in my opinion as good as me.

In other words reading this stuff has made me realize my self worth.

I don’t think the people who say dump this guy actually have read the stuff. Or they have only read extreme women hating stuff.

This doesn't sound like red pill. It sounds like establishing your boundaries. when i was dating, I did many of the same things (I'm a woman). Dont fall for someone right away, assume they are dating others, dont engage in stupid endless texting, just meet and either pursue if there's chemistry or nicely end it.

Actually the above really IS red pill. But just like PP said, you have a narrow extremist view of red pill manifesto.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks y’all! I have decided to definitely end it. I appreciate the feedback and push in the right direction. I just can’t get over dating someone who would embrace this stuff. I’d always be waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I think it’s weird to break up with him without asking about it, if everything else is going well. Seems like you care more about appearances than reality. This won’t serve you well in relationships it’s all about the individual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd ask him about it, curious how he would react.

This. I could not leave without first having a discussion, b/c WTH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is incel? Are posters just making up words?

No. We read the news. Google is your friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

think a lot of young men read this stuff but a much smaller percentage are hardcore.

I’d always been friend zoned by women and always the reliable guy they could lean on and tell me about their breakups. In reading on how I could up my game I stumbled on this red pill stuff and, while I still have the same high level of respect for women, my approach is entirely different.

For example, I play the field more with women rather than ditching them all when one woman acts like she likes me. I’d been burned on that before when we break up and I’ve burned bridges.

Also, I don’t engage in chatty text messages, I let my intention be known in a nice way. I set a date and make the date. I don’t emote all of my feelings. I no longer text chat all day while I’m working. If I feel I’m not appreciated I don’t keep giving of myself. I used to be the guy several beautiful women would ask to move their furniture after they got railed by some guy who wasn’t in my opinion as good as me.

In other words reading this stuff has made me realize my self worth.

I don’t think the people who say dump this guy actually have read the stuff. Or they have only read extreme women hating stuff.

This doesn't sound like red pill. It sounds like establishing your boundaries. when i was dating, I did many of the same things (I'm a woman). Dont fall for someone right away, assume they are dating others, dont engage in stupid endless texting, just meet and either pursue if there's chemistry or nicely end it.

"I used to be the guy several beautiful women would ask to move their furniture after they got railed by some guy who wasn’t in my opinion as good as me" sounds exactly like red pill. "I did favors for women I wanted to sleep with. I wasn't honest about my intentions with them, and I hoped they'd be interested in me even as they clearly were interested in other men instead" would be a normal, healthy way of talking about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks y’all! I have decided to definitely end it. I appreciate the feedback and push in the right direction. I just can’t get over dating someone who would embrace this stuff. I’d always be waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I think it’s weird to break up with him without asking about it, if everything else is going well. Seems like you care more about appearances than reality. This won’t serve you well in relationships it’s all about the individual.

It's a safety thing. If he subscribes fully to that philosophy, he could be very dangerous in a breakup, particularly if confronted. It's not 100% whether he's all in, but OP does not want to find out the hard way that he is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks y’all! I have decided to definitely end it. I appreciate the feedback and push in the right direction. I just can’t get over dating someone who would embrace this stuff. I’d always be waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I think it’s weird to break up with him without asking about it, if everything else is going well. Seems like you care more about appearances than reality. This won’t serve you well in relationships it’s all about the individual.

I don’t think she really liked him if she would simply dump him without asking about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

think a lot of young men read this stuff but a much smaller percentage are hardcore.

I’d always been friend zoned by women and always the reliable guy they could lean on and tell me about their breakups. In reading on how I could up my game I stumbled on this red pill stuff and, while I still have the same high level of respect for women, my approach is entirely different.

For example, I play the field more with women rather than ditching them all when one woman acts like she likes me. I’d been burned on that before when we break up and I’ve burned bridges.

Also, I don’t engage in chatty text messages, I let my intention be known in a nice way. I set a date and make the date. I don’t emote all of my feelings. I no longer text chat all day while I’m working. If I feel I’m not appreciated I don’t keep giving of myself. I used to be the guy several beautiful women would ask to move their furniture after they got railed by some guy who wasn’t in my opinion as good as me.

In other words reading this stuff has made me realize my self worth.

I don’t think the people who say dump this guy actually have read the stuff. Or they have only read extreme women hating stuff.

This doesn't sound like red pill. It sounds like establishing your boundaries. when i was dating, I did many of the same things (I'm a woman). Dont fall for someone right away, assume they are dating others, dont engage in stupid endless texting, just meet and either pursue if there's chemistry or nicely end it.

"I used to be the guy several beautiful women would ask to move their furniture after they got railed by some guy who wasn’t in my opinion as good as me" sounds exactly like red pill. "I did favors for women I wanted to sleep with. I wasn't honest about my intentions with them, and I hoped they'd be interested in me even as they clearly were interested in other men instead" would be a normal, healthy way of talking about this.

I am a woman and I was never in the dark about the intentions of the men I asked to move my furniture. It is true I had no intentions to reciprocate but don't say they weren't honest about their intentions. Women know men who move their furniture want to sleep with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guy here. I'd just like to echo that what you read about it represents the extreme side of things, which doesn't represent the majority of people who read and take advice from it. There are generations of boys growing up without strong father figures or older brothers teaching them how to operate in the world. They have grown up in front of computers and do not know what it means to be a man.

It's impossible to explain this to women in a way that they can understand so I won't go further. We don't hate women. For myself, I never knew how to be a man based on my upbringing. Now I do and am happy.

hating women is part of what it means to be a man? nope.

if this dude were 17, I’d give him the benefit of the doubt. But an adult? Should know better.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know anything about red pill but I do feel sorry for men because they are so downgraded. Especially white Baby boomer kids men

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

think a lot of young men read this stuff but a much smaller percentage are hardcore.

I’d always been friend zoned by women and always the reliable guy they could lean on and tell me about their breakups. In reading on how I could up my game I stumbled on this red pill stuff and, while I still have the same high level of respect for women, my approach is entirely different.

For example, I play the field more with women rather than ditching them all when one woman acts like she likes me. I’d been burned on that before when we break up and I’ve burned bridges.

Also, I don’t engage in chatty text messages, I let my intention be known in a nice way. I set a date and make the date. I don’t emote all of my feelings. I no longer text chat all day while I’m working. If I feel I’m not appreciated I don’t keep giving of myself. I used to be the guy several beautiful women would ask to move their furniture after they got railed by some guy who wasn’t in my opinion as good as me.

In other words reading this stuff has made me realize my self worth.

I don’t think the people who say dump this guy actually have read the stuff. Or they have only read extreme women hating stuff.

This doesn't sound like red pill. It sounds like establishing your boundaries. when i was dating, I did many of the same things (I'm a woman). Dont fall for someone right away, assume they are dating others, dont engage in stupid endless texting, just meet and either pursue if there's chemistry or nicely end it.

"I used to be the guy several beautiful women would ask to move their furniture after they got railed by some guy who wasn’t in my opinion as good as me" sounds exactly like red pill. "I did favors for women I wanted to sleep with. I wasn't honest about my intentions with them, and I hoped they'd be interested in me even as they clearly were interested in other men instead" would be a normal, healthy way of talking about this.

+1 There is nothing more insufferable than men who complain about being “friend zoned.” Women do not owe you shit. Not their attention, not their affection, not sex, nothing. If you don’t make your intentions clear, you cannot complain that women don’t read your mind or see you for who you REALLY are or whatever. Grow up and communicate like an adult.