Dating a Red Piller

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

No lie there! I like your answer, those are exactly the things RedPill says to work on 100%. Men who focus on those things WILL do well.

But when asked "what do you want in a man" (<-- google that Q) women ignore all that and instead the answer is stuff like "good provider; good communicator; vulnerable; meets my emotional needs; treats me like an equal; caring at heart". Men who focus on THESE things will not do well.

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

Yeah, but then they date guys who are insecure and overcompensate by acting like assholes; passing over guys who are quietly confident. So, guys pick up that women aren't so much interested in confidence as they are in overt displays of dominance.

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

I don’t know if they do extremely well or not. I do know that acting like women are some kind of prize to be earned, or trying to act like someone you aren’t, is a recipe for unhappiness.

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

Yeah, but then they date guys who are insecure and overcompensate by acting like assholes; passing over guys who are quietly confident. So, guys pick up that women aren't so much interested in confidence as they are in overt displays of dominance.

maybe you need to broaden your horizons. If you’re fixated on empty hookups by popular people as your ideal, maybe you need to examine other options?

if you’re talking clinical anxiety and anxious attachment style, then get therapy. Don’t read redpill blogs.

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

No lie there! I like your answer, those are exactly the things RedPill says to work on 100%. Men who focus on those things WILL do well.

But when asked "what do you want in a man" (<-- google that Q) women ignore all that and instead the answer is stuff like "good provider; good communicator; vulnerable; meets my emotional needs; treats me like an equal; caring at heart". Men who focus on THESE things will not do well.

what does “do well” mean to you? if you mean gray-rape hookups where you never give a girl an orgasm, maybe RedPill will work. If you want a relationship, being kind, communicative, perceptive, will get you a long way.

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

No lie there! I like your answer, those are exactly the things RedPill says to work on 100%. Men who focus on those things WILL do well.

But when asked "what do you want in a man" (<-- google that Q) women ignore all that and instead the answer is stuff like "good provider; good communicator; vulnerable; meets my emotional needs; treats me like an equal; caring at heart". Men who focus on THESE things will not do well.

Well, look, there's a lot of social desirability bias. Not a lot of men are going to publicly say their preference is "skinny but with big breasts and butt, wears dresses and lipstick, laughs at my jokes," but that's not exactly an unpopular profile, either. And it doesn't mean either group is being deceitful or doesn't care at all about basic human kindness or compatibility or values.

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

No lie there! I like your answer, those are exactly the things RedPill says to work on 100%. Men who focus on those things WILL do well.

But when asked "what do you want in a man" (<-- google that Q) women ignore all that and instead the answer is stuff like "good provider; good communicator; vulnerable; meets my emotional needs; treats me like an equal; caring at heart". Men who focus on THESE things will not do well.

what does “do well” mean to you? if you mean gray-rape hookups where you never give a girl an orgasm, maybe RedPill will work. If you want a relationship, being kind, communicative, perceptive, will get you a long way.

...but not as far as being those things, plus confident, attractive, and good in bed. You think people don't value those things in their spouses, too?

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If 2 women disagree on what they find valuable in their partner are they lying or are they two individuals who have different experiences/preferences?

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But when asked "what do you want in a man" (<-- google that Q) women ignore all that and instead the answer is stuff like "good provider; good communicator; vulnerable; meets my emotional needs; treats me like an equal; caring at heart". Men who focus on THESE things will not do well.

The issue here is not that women are lying about what they want - people can want those characteristics, but if you're not attracted to someone, you're not. And there's no magic formula to guarantee an attraction, for men or for women.

But here's the real issue: if you're cultivating these characteristics SOLELY BECAUSE you think it'll get you laid, that's 1) extremely obvious and 2) ENORMOUSLY offputting. Men who treat kindness, respect and communication like a coin they put in a vending machine and out comes sex -- ugh, I don't care how hot or rich you are. I will not want to f*ck you.

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But when asked "what do you want in a man" (<-- google that Q) women ignore all that and instead the answer is stuff like "good provider; good communicator; vulnerable; meets my emotional needs; treats me like an equal; caring at heart". Men who focus on THESE things will not do well.

The issue here is not that women are lying about what they want - people can want those characteristics, but if you're not attracted to someone, you're not. And there's no magic formula to guarantee an attraction, for men or for women.

But here's the real issue: if you're cultivating these characteristics SOLELY BECAUSE you think it'll get you laid, that's 1) extremely obvious and 2) ENORMOUSLY offputting. Men who treat kindness, respect and communication like a coin they put in a vending machine and out comes sex -- ugh, I don't care how hot or rich you are. I will not want to f*ck you.

There's no magic formula, but there are things you can do to be more attractive in general if you're a man or a woman. If you find out that a guy improved his wardrobe, lost some weight, and took better pictures for his dating profile, are you really going to find that off-putting? Or if he did an improv class to be more confident and funnier? You for sure shouldn't be entitled about it, but trying to be more attractive is not a bad thing.

[Anonymous]

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

I don’t know if they do extremely well or not. I do know that acting like women are some kind of prize to be earned, or trying to act like someone you aren’t, is a recipe for unhappiness.

VERY few men are just "born" naturally attractive to women. Most men need to work on it and improve in one area or another. Call that inauthentic if you want, or call it basic maturation and self improvement.
So ASSUMING a man isn't just naturally attractive, his first step would be understanding what's important for dating. Successful men will focus on the specific things that sexually attract women, and NOT focus on the things that women say they want (which add nothing to his attractiveness).

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

No lie there! I like your answer, those are exactly the things RedPill says to work on 100%. Men who focus on those things WILL do well.

But when asked "what do you want in a man" (<-- google that Q) women ignore all that and instead the answer is stuff like "good provider; good communicator; vulnerable; meets my emotional needs; treats me like an equal; caring at heart". Men who focus on THESE things will not do well.

what does “do well” mean to you? if you mean gray-rape hookups where you never give a girl an orgasm, maybe RedPill will work. If you want a relationship, being kind, communicative, perceptive, will get you a long way.

Well PP (a woman) already settled this. Spoiler alert: she did NOT mention kindness, communication, perceptiveness (not even close).

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But when asked "what do you want in a man" (<-- google that Q) women ignore all that and instead the answer is stuff like "good provider; good communicator; vulnerable; meets my emotional needs; treats me like an equal; caring at heart". Men who focus on THESE things will not do well.

The issue here is not that women are lying about what they want - people can want those characteristics, but if you're not attracted to someone, you're not. And there's no magic formula to guarantee an attraction, for men or for women.

But here's the real issue: if you're cultivating these characteristics SOLELY BECAUSE you think it'll get you laid, that's 1) extremely obvious and 2) ENORMOUSLY offputting. Men who treat kindness, respect and communication like a coin they put in a vending machine and out comes sex -- ugh, I don't care how hot or rich you are. I will not want to f*ck you.

There's no magic formula, but there are things you can do to be more attractive in general if you're a man or a woman. If you find out that a guy improved his wardrobe, lost some weight, and took better pictures for his dating profile, are you really going to find that off-putting? Or if he did an improv class to be more confident and funnier? You for sure shouldn't be entitled about it, but trying to be more attractive is not a bad thing.

If he gets pissed off because some women turn him down despite him having done all that work, then yes. I would find that very off-putting.

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

No lie there! I like your answer, those are exactly the things RedPill says to work on 100%. Men who focus on those things WILL do well.

But when asked "what do you want in a man" (<-- google that Q) women ignore all that and instead the answer is stuff like "good provider; good communicator; vulnerable; meets my emotional needs; treats me like an equal; caring at heart". Men who focus on THESE things will not do well.

what does “do well” mean to you? if you mean gray-rape hookups where you never give a girl an orgasm, maybe RedPill will work. If you want a relationship, being kind, communicative, perceptive, will get you a long way.

Well PP (a woman) already settled this. Spoiler alert: she did NOT mention kindness, communication, perceptiveness (not even close).

Wait, I settled for all times what women want?? Whoah. Does that mean we're also going with "skinny but with big breasts and butt, wears dresses and lipstick, laughs at my jokes" for what men want? Because I think these are both potentially informative but also fairly reductive, and as I noted I don't think this means no one cares about things like kindness or shared values.

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That's not going to get these guys laid. They see Chad Thundercock running around with hotties even though he's none of the things women say they want. He's not sensitive or respectful, he doesn't have a good sense of humor, and he only treats other people well when he wants something. He's rich and has muscles and acts like he could take or leave any given woman. These redpillers have heard what a shitty guy he is when their friends who are women cry about how he never calls but they wish he would. That's a caricature, obviously, but it's the kind of dynamic redpillers are thinking about when they complain that women aren't honest about what they really want in a sex partner.

Lift weights, be kind, have stuff going on in your life that you enjoy and derive meaning from, cultivate friendships, learn to flirt, work on your skills in bed, and be honest about what you're looking for, even if it's casual. You will do great, and you will get to be a good person. Everyone wins.

I mean, it's definitely not too complicated or unhealthy when you get down to the fundamentals. Work on yourself to where you are happy with yourself and your life and don't need another person for validation. At that point, you're very likely to attract a person that will make that good life better. (And, if you don't, it won't bother you that much.) What trips people up is when they don't like themselves very much and they blame others for their discontent -- whining about the injustice and unfairness of it all.

Ignore most of what "women say they want". That is the lie.
Instead, focus on what are the "guys who are successful with women" doing. Be more like them, because that is the truth.

Really? It's a lie when women say "I like confident, attractive guys?" Because tons of women will tell you that. It's not a secret. Many will add in "tall, high-earning, and great in bed", if they don't think you're going to judge them for that. You think guys with those attributes don't do extremely well?

No lie there! I like your answer, those are exactly the things RedPill says to work on 100%. Men who focus on those things WILL do well.

But when asked "what do you want in a man" (<-- google that Q) women ignore all that and instead the answer is stuff like "good provider; good communicator; vulnerable; meets my emotional needs; treats me like an equal; caring at heart". Men who focus on THESE things will not do well.

what does “do well” mean to you? if you mean gray-rape hookups where you never give a girl an orgasm, maybe RedPill will work. If you want a relationship, being kind, communicative, perceptive, will get you a long way.

Well PP (a woman) already settled this. Spoiler alert: she did NOT mention kindness, communication, perceptiveness (not even close).

Wait, I settled for all times what women want?? Whoah. Does that mean we're also going with "skinny but with big breasts and butt, wears dresses and lipstick, laughs at my jokes" for what men want? Because I think these are both potentially informative but also fairly reductive, and as I noted I don't think this means no one cares about things like kindness or shared values.

Yes, PP, you, a woman, in a single anonymous message board comment, have settled forever and always What All Women Want. We are no longer allowed to debate this issue or change our minds. All of us are bound by your post.