Hogan press conference 11/17 2pm

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UMD-piloted program is used to help triage and shuttle patients to the appropriate level of care across all MD hospitals. Apparently it worked well in the spring.

Was that a joke that he didn't have time to change? If not, what a stupid pig.

He’s a fking surgeon. He was telling the truth.

I'm sure that trail of hospital germs will just disappear like fairy dust behind him, too. Gross. Don't wear scrubs all over town, idiots. Poor Gov Hogan having to lean on that podium after that slob.

True.

I’m sure he scrubbed out.

JFC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This guy lost me.

What would you propose he do?

The two primary sources of COVID cases are:

1. In-home gatherings, which the government can’t stop.

2. High-capacity indoor dining and bars, which he’s taken measures to avoid.

Those measures are ineffective and have been for a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy lost me.

What would you propose he do?

The two primary sources of COVID cases are:

1. In-home gatherings, which the government can’t stop.

2. High-capacity indoor dining and bars, which he’s taken measures to avoid.

Those measures are ineffective and have been for a while.

So then what would you do?

Why are you criticizing Hogan when you have no alternatives?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
UMD-piloted program is used to help triage and shuttle patients to the appropriate level of care across all MD hospitals. Apparently it worked well in the spring.

Was that a joke that he didn't have time to change? If not, what a stupid pig.

He’s a fking surgeon. He was telling the truth.

I'm sure that trail of hospital germs will just disappear like fairy dust behind him, too. Gross. Don't wear scrubs all over town, idiots. Poor Gov Hogan having to lean on that podium after that slob.

If he was in surgery, he was wearing a gown or two on top of that one. It is not like in the ER or a regular doctor's office. It is not like he had time to take a shower. Or maybe he didn't know he was speaking today. Could be fresh scrubs but better than wearing the sweatpants and old sweatshirts he threw on at 6am in this morning to commute to work.

who knows and who cares-- substance over form.

[Anonymous]

Hogan saying that rural MD areas are hard hit this time around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy lost me.

What would you propose he do?

The two primary sources of COVID cases are:

1. In-home gatherings, which the government can’t stop.

2. High-capacity indoor dining and bars, which he’s taken measures to avoid.

Those measures are ineffective and have been for a while.

So then what would you do?

Why are you criticizing Hogan when you have no alternatives?

I would have closed all indoor dining, and I would've done it much earlier.

[Anonymous]

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Hogan saying that rural MD areas are hard hit this time around.

Did he provide data on where the cases are coming from? As in, has it mostly been from in-home gatherings? The contact tracing data on the MD COVID website isn’t very specific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy lost me.

What would you propose he do?

The two primary sources of COVID cases are:

1. In-home gatherings, which the government can’t stop.

2. High-capacity indoor dining and bars, which he’s taken measures to avoid.

Those measures are ineffective and have been for a while.

So then what would you do?

Why are you criticizing Hogan when you have no alternatives?

I would have closed all indoor dining, and I would've done it much earlier.

It’s not about all indoor dining — it’s about high-capacity indoor dining. He’s capping indoor dining at a low capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy lost me.

What would you propose he do?

The two primary sources of COVID cases are:

1. In-home gatherings, which the government can’t stop.

2. High-capacity indoor dining and bars, which he’s taken measures to avoid.

Those measures are ineffective and have been for a while.

So then what would you do?

Why are you criticizing Hogan when you have no alternatives?

There are plenty of other options. Look at how other countries are dealing with their pandemic. Some are requiring paperwork for people who go out, to explain why they need to leave the house, and fining people who don't fit into the allowed categories and are found beyond the stated geographic limit from their workplace or home. Some are in strict lockdown. Some have closed most businesses but kept schools open.

Plenty of options... Hogan is just tweaking his earlier plans and not branching out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hogan saying that rural MD areas are hard hit this time around.

Did he provide data on where the cases are coming from? As in, has it mostly been from in-home gatherings? The contact tracing data on the MD COVID website isn’t very specific.

He said many people don't want to participate in contact tracing because (my words) they have their tin hats on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy lost me.

What would you propose he do?

The two primary sources of COVID cases are:

1. In-home gatherings, which the government can’t stop.

2. High-capacity indoor dining and bars, which he’s taken measures to avoid.

Those measures are ineffective and have been for a while.

So then what would you do?

Why are you criticizing Hogan when you have no alternatives?

There are plenty of other options. Look at how other countries are dealing with their pandemic. Some are requiring paperwork for people who go out, to explain why they need to leave the house, and fining people who don't fit into the allowed categories and are found beyond the stated geographic limit from their workplace or home. Some are in strict lockdown. Some have closed most businesses but kept schools open.

Plenty of options... Hogan is just tweaking his earlier plans and not branching out.

The only thing you mentioned that’s constitutional is closing businesses but keeping schools open.

It is not constitutional in this country to require people to tell the government where they’re going, or fining people for being beyond a certain limit from their home.

Moreover, that’s not even effective, given that most COVID cases are happening via in-home gatherings, which you could do while staying on your own block.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hogan saying that rural MD areas are hard hit this time around.

Did he provide data on where the cases are coming from? As in, has it mostly been from in-home gatherings? The contact tracing data on the MD COVID website isn’t very specific.

He said many people don't want to participate in contact tracing because (my words) they have their tin hats on.

PP here. Thanks — god our country is stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy lost me.

What would you propose he do?

The two primary sources of COVID cases are:

1. In-home gatherings, which the government can’t stop.

2. High-capacity indoor dining and bars, which he’s taken measures to avoid.

Those measures are ineffective and have been for a while.

So then what would you do?

Why are you criticizing Hogan when you have no alternatives?

There are plenty of other options. Look at how other countries are dealing with their pandemic. Some are requiring paperwork for people who go out, to explain why they need to leave the house, and fining people who don't fit into the allowed categories and are found beyond the stated geographic limit from their workplace or home. Some are in strict lockdown. Some have closed most businesses but kept schools open.

Plenty of options... Hogan is just tweaking his earlier plans and not branching out.

The only thing you mentioned that’s constitutional is closing businesses but keeping schools open.

It is not constitutional in this country to require people to tell the government where they’re going, or fining people for being beyond a certain limit from their home.

Moreover, that’s not even effective, given that most COVID cases are happening via in-home gatherings, which you could do while staying on your own block.

Such measures were radically effective in France and Italy. The problem is that as soon as they’re lifted, people go back to greeting each other with kisses on the cheek, as it’s the traditional greeting over there... so now France is in its second lockdown. It will be effective, but as soon as it’s lifted...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy lost me.

What would you propose he do?

The two primary sources of COVID cases are:

1. In-home gatherings, which the government can’t stop.

2. High-capacity indoor dining and bars, which he’s taken measures to avoid.

Those measures are ineffective and have been for a while.

So then what would you do?

Why are you criticizing Hogan when you have no alternatives?

I would have closed all indoor dining, and I would've done it much earlier.

It’s not about all indoor dining — it’s about high-capacity indoor dining. He’s capping indoor dining at a low capacity.

You asked what I would do. That's what I'd do. Low capacity? Who tf needs to be eating in a restaurant right now?! We're spiking! Get takeout and go home!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy lost me.

What would you propose he do?

The two primary sources of COVID cases are:

1. In-home gatherings, which the government can’t stop.

2. High-capacity indoor dining and bars, which he’s taken measures to avoid.

Those measures are ineffective and have been for a while.

So then what would you do?

Why are you criticizing Hogan when you have no alternatives?

There are plenty of other options. Look at how other countries are dealing with their pandemic. Some are requiring paperwork for people who go out, to explain why they need to leave the house, and fining people who don't fit into the allowed categories and are found beyond the stated geographic limit from their workplace or home. Some are in strict lockdown. Some have closed most businesses but kept schools open.

Plenty of options... Hogan is just tweaking his earlier plans and not branching out.

The only thing you mentioned that’s constitutional is closing businesses but keeping schools open.

It is not constitutional in this country to require people to tell the government where they’re going, or fining people for being beyond a certain limit from their home.

Moreover, that’s not even effective, given that most COVID cases are happening via in-home gatherings, which you could do while staying on your own block.

Citation?