TJ is so done...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, there will be a rush on our top privates now. Actually, it’ll be fun to see who does better at math. Was TJ a myth? Will it be even better? I hope someone’s writing a PhD on this — what a complex social and educational experiment. Not sure how ethical, but lessons galore.

There will no longer be critical mass of the best STEM high school students in one place - they will be spread out in private or the western part of Fairfax County and out to Loudon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, there will be a rush on our top privates now. Actually, it’ll be fun to see who does better at math. Was TJ a myth? Will it be even better? I hope someone’s writing a PhD on this — what a complex social and educational experiment. Not sure how ethical, but lessons galore.

are there tons of parents who chose public but will now be eager to pay 50k a year for high school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

watch your racist dog whistle

You must be referring to the comment about prepping in 2nd grade?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, there will be a rush on our top privates now. Actually, it’ll be fun to see who does better at math. Was TJ a myth? Will it be even better? I hope someone’s writing a PhD on this — what a complex social and educational experiment. Not sure how ethical, but lessons galore.

are there tons of parents who chose public but will now be eager to pay 50k a year for high school?

There are plenty of good private schools under $50K. And when you take the prospect of getting into the #1 high school in the country off the table, there are a lot of people in this area that can certainly afford to go private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

watch your racist dog whistle

You must be referring to the comment about prepping in 2nd grade?

PP here. While I agree that the anti -Asian racism on this board is astounding, I actually took the reference to prepping for the COGAT as a dig on the White moms who parent- refer into AAP. - that is the stereotype in my school. In any case, the comment I bolded is racist AF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

watch your racist dog whistle

You must be referring to the comment about prepping in 2nd grade?

PP here. While I agree that the anti -Asian racism on this board is astounding, I actually took the reference to prepping for the COGAT as a dig on the White moms who parent- refer into AAP. - that is the stereotype in my school. In any case, the comment I bolded is racist AF.

Shoes and a playstation? I don't get why ppl are saying this is racist in any way...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

watch your racist dog whistle

You must be referring to the comment about prepping in 2nd grade?

PP here. While I agree that the anti -Asian racism on this board is astounding, I actually took the reference to prepping for the COGAT as a dig on the White moms who parent- refer into AAP. - that is the stereotype in my school. In any case, the comment I bolded is racist AF.

Shoes and a playstation? I don't get why ppl are saying this is racist in any way...

Calling things "racist" comes as second nature to some people. It's especially convenient when it's an excuse to avoid discussing the merits (or lack thereof) of an admissions approach that assumes the best way to level the playing field is to authorize some "Chief Equity Officer" to award bonus points in her discretion to kids because they aren't Asian or don't attend a school that has had "too many" kids going to TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:R.I.P TJ. This is some feels bad news:

"As Chief Equity Officer, Williams will be responsible for the Ombudsman Office, the Office of Professional Learning and Family Engagement, the Hearings Office, and admissions for Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology."

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fcps-announces-appointment-new-chief-academic-officer?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=

Just wait, TJ achievement level will naturally decrease, but their Ivy admission level will shoot through the roof. There is a reason why a modestly accomplished diversity kid gets into every Ivy every year. It's because there are so, so few of them nationwide. TJ can make more. They don't need to be on the US Physics team; that is for the nerds who are no long wanted at TJ. Take calculus, score 1500 on SAT, pass the 23-and-me test, done.

You are misunderstanding the goals here. It's no longer about education.

And once you redefine it that way, everything becomes crystal clear, including solutions for those who are actually "came to TJ for the sports", like in the old days.

Coursera. Coursera. Coursera. Lab class here and there at GMU. Maybe find a couple of parents who were teachers in the old country, and actually form micro private schools on that model.

It will be OK.

[Anonymous]

What a shame. A great institution that I helped pay for decades is now destroyed in the name of egalitarianism. And for the record, my children weren't gifted enough to even apply but i was proud to support it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a shame. A great institution that I helped pay for decades is now destroyed in the name of egalitarianism. And for the record, my children weren't gifted enough to even apply but i was proud to support it.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a shame. A great institution that I helped pay for decades is now destroyed in the name of egalitarianism. And for the record, my children weren't gifted enough to even apply but i was proud to support it.

An institution founded on cheating to get in. What a proud history.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What a shame. A great institution that I helped pay for decades is now destroyed in the name of egalitarianism. And for the record, my children weren't gifted enough to even apply but i was proud to support it.

An institution founded on cheating to get in. What a proud history.

What on earth are you babbling about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a shame. A great institution that I helped pay for decades is now destroyed in the name of egalitarianism. And for the record, my children weren't gifted enough to even apply but i was proud to support it.

An institution founded on cheating to get in. What a proud history.

Any reason for such hate, did they cheat on the year they made it a magnet school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

watch your racist dog whistle

You must be referring to the comment about prepping in 2nd grade?

Students ARE actually completing test prep for the NNAT. It’s even advertised. It’s not their fault their parents are making them cheat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

watch your racist dog whistle

You must be referring to the comment about prepping in 2nd grade?

Students ARE actually completing test prep for the NNAT. It’s even advertised. It’s not their fault their parents are making them cheat.

Even if they are ... so what? As many like to point out, AAP was been watered down from its original FCPS gifted program. If a kid can study and work hard to get into the program so what?