TJ is so done...

[Anonymous]

^^ The issue is, as it relates back to TJ, is that URM and lower income students are disadvantaged in the process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ The issue is, as it relates back to TJ, is that URM and lower income students are disadvantaged in the process.

so give everyone test prep materials and it will be even. Don't pull others down because its easier than providing resources where they are needed.

[Anonymous]

This is why I believe they are not actually trying to help URM. They aren't doing anything to prepare the targeted groups for TJ level work, are not doing anything to increase applicants from these groups or even asking why these groups dont want to attend/apply... but are just changing the mix of who is being accepted from the current pool. If URM are not in the current pool how will that help them gain admission?

We either have clowns running this or deceitful leadership.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^ The issue is, as it relates back to TJ, is that URM and lower income students are disadvantaged in the process.

so give everyone test prep materials and it will be even. Don't pull others down because its easier than providing resources where they are needed.

How is this even? Will they have parents requiring 20 min a day? Will they have parents nagging and threatening? Advocating their kid is bored? Going to teacher conferences and asking the right questions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why I believe they are not actually trying to help URM. They aren't doing anything to prepare the targeted groups for TJ level work, are not doing anything to increase applicants from these groups or even asking why these groups dont want to attend/apply... but are just changing the mix of who is being accepted from the current pool. If URM are not in the current pool how will that help them gain admission?

We either have clowns running this or deceitful leadership.

If the kid has real interest in TJ STEM, there are lot of resources like Khan Academy, Youtube education and Libraries etc. Nothing can stop the kid. Now everything is online and at your finger tips.

President Abraham Lincoln is known to have completed his initial studies under street lights and had to struggle hard to survive during the initial few years of his life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^ The issue is, as it relates back to TJ, is that URM and lower income students are disadvantaged in the process.

so give everyone test prep materials and it will be even. Don't pull others down because its easier than providing resources where they are needed.

How is this even? Will they have parents requiring 20 min a day? Will they have parents nagging and threatening? Advocating their kid is bored? Going to teacher conferences and asking the right questions?

Well no, the school system should not take the place of good parenting. More like they should offer the prep in school hours.

And cut out the parent referral/lobbying process all together.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I believe they are not actually trying to help URM. They aren't doing anything to prepare the targeted groups for TJ level work, are not doing anything to increase applicants from these groups or even asking why these groups dont want to attend/apply... but are just changing the mix of who is being accepted from the current pool. If URM are not in the current pool how will that help them gain admission?

We either have clowns running this or deceitful leadership.

If the kid has real interest in TJ STEM, there are lot of resources like Khan Academy, Youtube education and Libraries etc. Nothing can stop the kid. Now everything is online and at your finger tips.

President Abraham Lincoln is known to have completed his initial studies under street lights and had to struggle hard to survive during the initial few years of his life.

There are great URM students who choose not to apply. This is low hanging fruit for FCPS leadership if they actually cared to move the needle.

Also, no, you can't expect children to know the full breadth of information available and how to access it. Parents and other adults need to help guide them. This is assuming they have reliable access to a computer and internet.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ The issue is, as it relates back to TJ, is that URM and lower-income students are disadvantaged in the process.

so give everyone test prep materials and it will be even. Don't pull others down because its easier than providing resources where they are needed.

How is this even? Will they have parents requiring 20 min a day? Will they have parents nagging and threatening? Advocating their kid is bored? Going to teacher conferences and asking the right questions?

Do you hear yourself? It's actually disgusting you're making it seem like these children have incompetent parents. If everyone has access to test prep materials, that's as even as it needs to be.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

watch your racist dog whistle

You must be referring to the comment about prepping in 2nd grade?

PP here. While I agree that the anti -Asian racism on this board is astounding, I actually took the reference to prepping for the COGAT as a dig on the White moms who parent- refer into AAP. - that is the stereotype in my school. In any case, the comment I bolded is racist AF.

Shoes and a playstation? I don't get why ppl are saying this is racist in any way...

Calling things "racist" comes as second nature to some people. It's especially convenient when it's an excuse to avoid discussing the merits (or lack thereof) of an admissions approach that assumes the best way to level the playing field is to authorize some "Chief Equity Officer" to award bonus points in her discretion to kids because they aren't Asian or don't attend a school that has had "too many" kids going to TJ.

Yep, some people find it difficult to realize that not everyone's family has its roots in America's plantation system. They find it easier to use "racism" as a cudgel against victims of discrimination that it is to compose self-consistent arguments. Also, since jailing people for discriminatory slandermongering aimed at destroying the education system isn't a thing, they like to use the platform they've been gifted to wreak as much damage as possible. Because YOLO.

[Anonymous]

Protip: You don't have to be a legacy of a plantation owner to benefit from its spoils.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Protip: You don't have to be a legacy of a plantation owner to benefit from its spoils.

Translation: we can’t have a good STEM school because everything needs to be centered on the “pro” victim class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Protip: You don't have to be a legacy of a plantation owner to benefit from its spoils.

You have to be a pro to offer a protip.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ The issue is, as it relates back to TJ, is that URM and lower-income students are disadvantaged in the process.

so give everyone test prep materials and it will be even. Don't pull others down because its easier than providing resources where they are needed.

How is this even? Will they have parents requiring 20 min a day? Will they have parents nagging and threatening? Advocating their kid is bored? Going to teacher conferences and asking the right questions?

Do you hear yourself? It's actually disgusting you're making it seem like these children have incompetent parents. If everyone has access to test prep materials, that's as even as it needs to be.

Test prep is not the answer. If you have to prep for the test, TJ is not the right school for you. There needs to be a way to find the kids who will benefit most from TJ that cannot be “prepped” for.

What my family observed when our child was at TJ was that kids who prepped the most for TJ were frequently the ones who struggled the most and were the unhappiest while there. They would have learned more and had a better experience at their assigned high school.

A TJ full of kids who didn’t need to “prep” for an entrance test would be a much more relaxed and healthy place where kids would be truly learning.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ The issue is, as it relates back to TJ, is that URM and lower-income students are disadvantaged in the process.

so give everyone test prep materials and it will be even. Don't pull others down because its easier than providing resources where they are needed.

How is this even? Will they have parents requiring 20 min a day? Will they have parents nagging and threatening? Advocating their kid is bored? Going to teacher conferences and asking the right questions?

Do you hear yourself? It's actually disgusting you're making it seem like these children have incompetent parents. If everyone has access to test prep materials, that's as even as it needs to be.

Test prep is not the answer. If you have to prep for the test, TJ is not the right school for you. There needs to be a way to find the kids who will benefit most from TJ that cannot be “prepped” for.

What my family observed when our child was at TJ was that kids who prepped the most for TJ were frequently the ones who struggled the most and were the unhappiest while there. They would have learned more and had a better experience at their assigned high school.

A TJ full of kids who didn’t need to “prep” for an entrance test would be a much more relaxed and healthy place where kids would be truly learning.

? Kids are happy there when they are confident in their abilities and have friends to attend with or are easily able to make friends at TJ. Give it a rest that prep somehow disqualifies anyone. FCPS is so unaware and unable to stop what parents do to help their kids or what kids do on their own. You can't police everyone. Just help the kids who need an extra boost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ sacrificed on the alter of "equity".

not sacrificed. it was a pork handout to upper middle class.

it is way overdue to be closed and turned back to a regular neighborhood school.