TJ is so done...

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Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

No, PP has a point. If you have to prep all/most your life for something cerebral (not physical, different muscles = different use - though how one camp loves to rail on athletes = discriminatory, but I digress). After a certain point, you are using wrote memorization and that isn't "studying", that is "teaching to the test", which is not life like or realistic. Colleges don't want robots whose parents "program" them for Tj since grade school - that is INSANE. I wouldn't want to deal with those parents, either.

This. Cannot tell you how many times friends who work within academia complain about the discourse in thier humanities classes for the last 6 years - she says it amounts to having a conversation with automatons. Those were often the students who received the lowest marks due to the fact that the regurgitation of researched information alone wasn't enough. Independent, original, and creative thinking are a necessity and often the automaton kids were at a disadvantage compared to private/boarding kids ( culturally exposed to a lot) or pooer-URM and white ( whose background and experiences may be different than "mainstream").

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I don't really care about TJ one way or other but just curious about this part- I know there are exceptions and extremes on both ends but on average, aren't private/boarding schools a more monotonous environment than some random local pubic school?

Not academically. Especially, the students who come from European boarding schools. They are always academically ahead of thier class ( in the sciences, as well).

I wasn't referring to academics, just the bolded part that private/boarding school students are "culturally exposed to a lot" more than their public school counterparts.

Ah, sorry. Honestly, I think it is a 50/50 thing. More monotonous in non-rigorous private schools. All of my friends who attended international boarding schools definitely did not come from monotonous environments. But that is naturally such a small group of people it makes their experiences irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

No, PP has a point. If you have to prep all/most your life for something cerebral (not physical, different muscles = different use - though how one camp loves to rail on athletes = discriminatory, but I digress). After a certain point, you are using wrote memorization and that isn't "studying", that is "teaching to the test", which is not life like or realistic. Colleges don't want robots whose parents "program" them for Tj since grade school - that is INSANE. I wouldn't want to deal with those parents, either.

This. Cannot tell you how many times friends who work within academia complain about the discourse in thier humanities classes for the last 6 years - she says it amounts to having a conversation with automatons. Those were often the students who received the lowest marks due to the fact that the regurgitation of researched information alone wasn't enough. Independent, original, and creative thinking are a necessity and often the automaton kids were at a disadvantage compared to private/boarding kids ( culturally exposed to a lot) or pooer-URM and white ( whose background and experiences may be different than "mainstream").

I thought this was about who is best qualified for a STEM-focused curriculum at TJ, not who is best at performative displays in some humanities class at Sarah Lawrence or Bard. Go away.

Actually, she has taught philosophy at both MIT and Yale ( in fact, many of the greatest philosophers - and artists, were also mathematicians ). Not sure where you got "performative displays" from. Troglodyte.

You really are a complete idiot if you don't realize there's no place on the planet where performative displays find a better audience than Yale. But somehow you think it bolsters your case to refer to MIT and Yale, while denigrating those who aspire to attend the nation's top high school (as opposed to, say, teach at the 4th ranked university).

Bless your heart

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Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

No, PP has a point. If you have to prep all/most your life for something cerebral (not physical, different muscles = different use - though how one camp loves to rail on athletes = discriminatory, but I digress). After a certain point, you are using wrote memorization and that isn't "studying", that is "teaching to the test", which is not life like or realistic. Colleges don't want robots whose parents "program" them for Tj since grade school - that is INSANE. I wouldn't want to deal with those parents, either.

This. Cannot tell you how many times friends who work within academia complain about the discourse in thier humanities classes for the last 6 years - she says it amounts to having a conversation with automatons. Those were often the students who received the lowest marks due to the fact that the regurgitation of researched information alone wasn't enough. Independent, original, and creative thinking are a necessity and often the automaton kids were at a disadvantage compared to private/boarding kids ( culturally exposed to a lot) or pooer-URM and white ( whose background and experiences may be different than "mainstream").

I thought this was about who is best qualified for a STEM-focused curriculum at TJ, not who is best at performative displays in some humanities class at Sarah Lawrence or Bard. Go away.

Actually, she has taught philosophy at both MIT and Yale ( in fact, many of the greatest philosophers - and artists, were also mathematicians ). Not sure where you got "performative displays" from. Troglodyte.

You really are a complete idiot if you don't realize there's no place on the planet where performative displays find a better audience than Yale. But somehow you think it bolsters your case to refer to MIT and Yale, while denigrating those who aspire to attend the nation's top high school (as opposed to, say, teach at the 4th ranked university).

you are truly special

+ 1000

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Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

No, PP has a point. If you have to prep all/most your life for something cerebral (not physical, different muscles = different use - though how one camp loves to rail on athletes = discriminatory, but I digress). After a certain point, you are using wrote memorization and that isn't "studying", that is "teaching to the test", which is not life like or realistic. Colleges don't want robots whose parents "program" them for Tj since grade school - that is INSANE. I wouldn't want to deal with those parents, either.

This. Cannot tell you how many times friends who work within academia complain about the discourse in thier humanities classes for the last 6 years - she says it amounts to having a conversation with automatons. Those were often the students who received the lowest marks due to the fact that the regurgitation of researched information alone wasn't enough. Independent, original, and creative thinking are a necessity and often the automaton kids were at a disadvantage compared to private/boarding kids ( culturally exposed to a lot) or pooer-URM and white ( whose background and experiences may be different than "mainstream").

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I don't really care about TJ one way or other but just curious about this part- I know there are exceptions and extremes on both ends but on average, aren't private/boarding schools a more monotonous environment than some random local pubic school?

Not academically. Especially, the students who come from European boarding schools. They are always academically ahead of thier class ( in the sciences, as well).

I wasn't referring to academics, just the bolded part that private/boarding school students are "culturally exposed to a lot" more than their public school counterparts.

What does this have to do with anything? You think the FARMS children they are trying to attend are on par with boarding school kids in terms of thought and should replace a current Asian aspiring to TJ? Poor reasoning. Who cares that some rich kids are more cultural. Has nothing to do with admissions to TJ.

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When will TJ admission process be finalized and start accepting applications for 2025 class? thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

No, PP has a point. If you have to prep all/most your life for something cerebral (not physical, different muscles = different use - though how one camp loves to rail on athletes = discriminatory, but I digress). After a certain point, you are using wrote memorization and that isn't "studying", that is "teaching to the test", which is not life like or realistic. Colleges don't want robots whose parents "program" them for Tj since grade school - that is INSANE. I wouldn't want to deal with those parents, either.

This. Cannot tell you how many times friends who work within academia complain about the discourse in thier humanities classes for the last 6 years - she says it amounts to having a conversation with automatons. Those were often the students who received the lowest marks due to the fact that the regurgitation of researched information alone wasn't enough. Independent, original, and creative thinking are a necessity and often the automaton kids were at a disadvantage compared to private/boarding kids ( culturally exposed to a lot) or pooer-URM and white ( whose background and experiences may be different than "mainstream").

NP
I don't really care about TJ one way or other but just curious about this part- I know there are exceptions and extremes on both ends but on average, aren't private/boarding schools a more monotonous environment than some random local pubic school?

Not academically. Especially, the students who come from European boarding schools. They are always academically ahead of thier class ( in the sciences, as well).

I wasn't referring to academics, just the bolded part that private/boarding school students are "culturally exposed to a lot" more than their public school counterparts.

Very little exposure in private school to the reality of how life works as a low SES citizen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:R.I.P TJ. This is some feels bad news:

"As Chief Equity Officer, Williams will be responsible for the Ombudsman Office, the Office of Professional Learning and Family Engagement, the Hearings Office, and admissions for Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology."

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fcps-announces-appointment-new-chief-academic-officer?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=

As it should be. Take all the money you spend on tutoring/prep and attend a private STEM school. Done.

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Anonymous wrote:R.I.P TJ. This is some feels bad news:

"As Chief Equity Officer, Williams will be responsible for the Ombudsman Office, the Office of Professional Learning and Family Engagement, the Hearings Office, and admissions for Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology."

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fcps-announces-appointment-new-chief-academic-officer?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=

As it should be. Take all the money you spend on tutoring/prep and attend a private STEM school. Done.

Huh? What the heck is a private STEM school?

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Anonymous wrote:R.I.P TJ. This is some feels bad news:

"As Chief Equity Officer, Williams will be responsible for the Ombudsman Office, the Office of Professional Learning and Family Engagement, the Hearings Office, and admissions for Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology."

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fcps-announces-appointment-new-chief-academic-officer?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=

As it should be. Take all the money you spend on tutoring/prep and attend a private STEM school. Done.

Huh? What the heck is a private STEM school?

A deflection by someone who is happy to tear everything down because its easier than doing the work to bring others up.

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Anonymous wrote:R.I.P TJ. This is some feels bad news:

"As Chief Equity Officer, Williams will be responsible for the Ombudsman Office, the Office of Professional Learning and Family Engagement, the Hearings Office, and admissions for Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology."

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fcps-announces-appointment-new-chief-academic-officer?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=

As it should be. Take all the money you spend on tutoring/prep and attend a private STEM school. Done.

Figment of your imagination, much?

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Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

Agree. Parents shouldn’t prepare kids to be gifted.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ as it known now is for sure done, and good riddance! Next up: AAP admissions reform.

I don’t know why families thought they could cheat their way through a system meant for *actually* gifted students by starting test prep in elementary school (or earlier). News flash: if your child preps for a 2nd grade cognitive assessment, the score is invalid, and your child is not “exceptionally gifted”.

Right. Giftedness can only be found on street corners and in homes where parents take little interest in their children's education (but make sure they have nice shoes and a Play Station). I'm so glad FCPS will have a new Chief Equity Officer who can spot these natural wonders.

No, PP has a point. If you have to prep all/most your life for something cerebral (not physical, different muscles = different use - though how one camp loves to rail on athletes = discriminatory, but I digress). After a certain point, you are using wrote memorization and that isn't "studying", that is "teaching to the test", which is not life like or realistic. Colleges don't want robots whose parents "program" them for Tj since grade school - that is INSANE. I wouldn't want to deal with those parents, either.

What does this part mean??

[Anonymous]

When will TJ admission process be finalized and start accepting applications for 2025 class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how they already spend so much extra money on the high FARMS schools and there are big AAP centers at schools like Glasgow and Sandburg, but they still only get a handful or less of kids into TJ.

If the system hasn't been able to showcase the talents of kids at those schools by the time they are in 8th grade, it's hard to see how dumping more into TJ under a new "hybrid lottery" system will set them up for success. Perhaps "New TJ" will be a solid school with better sports teams, but it probably won't be as strong as some of the existing schools.

+100. They certainly don’t want to address this question

[Anonymous]

Oh no, there will be a rush on our top privates now. Actually, it’ll be fun to see who does better at math. Was TJ a myth? Will it be even better? I hope someone’s writing a PhD on this — what a complex social and educational experiment. Not sure how ethical, but lessons galore.