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Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.


Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.


That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?


"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.


I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.


The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.


How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?



Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?


You should start your own club. You clearly have superior knowledge about everything.


We get one day a week for 60 minutes. Do you think that's reasonable?
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Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.


Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.


That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?


"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.


I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.


The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.


How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?



Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?


You should start your own club. You clearly have superior knowledge about everything.


We get one day a week for 60 minutes. Do you think that's reasonable?


The fact is we are fortunate to be swimming at all. Many club across the world have been shut down since March. It sucks but 1 day a week for a newer swimmer is at least a good compromise. The beginner junior group typically requires what 2 practices a week?
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Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.


Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.


That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?


"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.


I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.


The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.


How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?



Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?


You should start your own club. You clearly have superior knowledge about everything.


We get one day a week for 60 minutes. Do you think that's reasonable?


The fact is we are fortunate to be swimming at all. Many club across the world have been shut down since March. It sucks but 1 day a week for a newer swimmer is at least a good compromise. The beginner junior group typically requires what 2 practices a week?


The kids aren't newer swimmers and many have been swimming for years. 1 day a week isn't a good compromise when normal is 4. Why aren't the other groups having a huge reduction in times?
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Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.


Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.


That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?


"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.


I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.


The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.


How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?



Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?


You should start your own club. You clearly have superior knowledge about everything.


We get one day a week for 60 minutes. Do you think that's reasonable?


The fact is we are fortunate to be swimming at all. Many club across the world have been shut down since March. It sucks but 1 day a week for a newer swimmer is at least a good compromise. The beginner junior group typically requires what 2 practices a week?


The kids aren't newer swimmers and many have been swimming for years. 1 day a week isn't a good compromise when normal is 4. Why aren't the other groups having a huge reduction in times?


How many practices per week are typically mandatory for your child group. As someone mentioned upthread, RMSC often offers several practice times but to provide flexibility. Not their intention that swimmers attend every session.
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Those of us that spent our time communicating with the county council rather than complaining endlessly appear to have succeeded, the county has acknowledged that the 25 person per facility limit was not intended to apply to swim centers. My kid’s coach expects a new schedule next week.
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Why did Montgomery Co originally deny the RMSC request for a waiver? It does not make sense!!! But that is great news.
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Anonymous wrote:Those of us that spent our time communicating with the county council rather than complaining endlessly appear to have succeeded, the county has acknowledged that the 25 person per facility limit was not intended to apply to swim centers. My kid’s coach expects a new schedule next week.


When and where did that acknowledgement happen? Is there something we can read about this?
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Anonymous wrote:Those of us that spent our time communicating with the county council rather than complaining endlessly appear to have succeeded, the county has acknowledged that the 25 person per facility limit was not intended to apply to swim centers. My kid’s coach expects a new schedule next week.


When and where did that acknowledgement happen? Is there something we can read about this?


It’s forthcoming.
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Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.


Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.


That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?


"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.


I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.


The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.


How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?



Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?


You should start your own club. You clearly have superior knowledge about everything.


We get one day a week for 60 minutes. Do you think that's reasonable?


The fact is we are fortunate to be swimming at all. Many club across the world have been shut down since March. It sucks but 1 day a week for a newer swimmer is at least a good compromise. The beginner junior group typically requires what 2 practices a week?


The kids aren't newer swimmers and many have been swimming for years. 1 day a week isn't a good compromise when normal is 4. Why aren't the other groups having a huge reduction in times?


Please post all the other groups and their non-reduced times so we can determine what is
"fair" and who is getting cheated. I have a KSAC senior. Practice is now two days a week slightly less than an hour each.
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Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.


Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.


That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?


"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.


I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.


The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.


How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?



Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?


You should start your own club. You clearly have superior knowledge about everything.


We get one day a week for 60 minutes. Do you think that's reasonable?



I think that you see the universe through the eyes of only your nine year old who did not make advanced juniors, you reject information we have provided to you about how this club works and why they have do things the way they do things in multiple exchanges. You want more for your kid for less money. I believe you have indicated that you want: (1) all kids to be able to come to more practices (2) the decision about who makes advanced groups to have nothing to do with speed because you don't care about competitions but only practice attendance; (3) attendance at every practice made available to a certain group of kids to be mandatory; (4) lanes to have fewer kids in them; (5) the cost to be cheaper then RMSC; (6) no changes be made to the schedule to reflect evolving health regulations without consultation with 100s of participants' parents; (6) the schedule to be developed in light of evolving health department restrictions to serve a mystery number of swimmers (because you don't want to have to pay a deposit to indicate you want to swim during a pandemic). I think you should develop a business plan and figure out how this would work? Would you have kids of all abilities just sign up for the number of practices they want to attend and then have coaches deal with disparate speeds and kids lapping each other at any given practice? How much would you pay for lane space, how much would you pay your coaches, therefore how much would you charge "per practice." Go through this exercise and see if you can create a club to fit your preferences.
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Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.


Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.


That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?


"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.


I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.


The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.


How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?



Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?


You should start your own club. You clearly have superior knowledge about everything.


We get one day a week for 60 minutes. Do you think that's reasonable?



I think that you see the universe through the eyes of only your nine year old who did not make advanced juniors, you reject information we have provided to you about how this club works and why they have do things the way they do things in multiple exchanges. You want more for your kid for less money. I believe you have indicated that you want: (1) all kids to be able to come to more practices (2) the decision about who makes advanced groups to have nothing to do with speed because you don't care about competitions but only practice attendance; (3) attendance at every practice made available to a certain group of kids to be mandatory; (4) lanes to have fewer kids in them; (5) the cost to be cheaper then RMSC; (6) no changes be made to the schedule to reflect evolving health regulations without consultation with 100s of participants' parents; (6) the schedule to be developed in light of evolving health department restrictions to serve a mystery number of swimmers (because you don't want to have to pay a deposit to indicate you want to swim during a pandemic). I think you should develop a business plan and figure out how this would work? Would you have kids of all abilities just sign up for the number of practices they want to attend and then have coaches deal with disparate speeds and kids lapping each other at any given practice? How much would you pay for lane space, how much would you pay your coaches, therefore how much would you charge "per practice." Go through this exercise and see if you can create a club to fit your preferences.


This is exactly right.
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Did aquatic center limits come up at the County Council meeting?
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yes

In light of the confusion regarding the capacity rules for indoor aquatics facilities, Councilmember Glass took the opportunity to ask Dr. Stoddard and Dr. Gayles about the issue during today's County Council session. Included here is a link to the exchange on the Council's youtube page: https://youtu.be/O_c8K8NOkqU?t=8370.
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Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.


Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.


That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?


"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.


I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.


The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.


How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?



Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?


You should start your own club. You clearly have superior knowledge about everything.


We get one day a week for 60 minutes. Do you think that's reasonable?


The fact is we are fortunate to be swimming at all. Many club across the world have been shut down since March. It sucks but 1 day a week for a newer swimmer is at least a good compromise. The beginner junior group typically requires what 2 practices a week?


The kids aren't newer swimmers and many have been swimming for years. 1 day a week isn't a good compromise when normal is 4. Why aren't the other groups having a huge reduction in times?


Please post all the other groups and their non-reduced times so we can determine what is
"fair" and who is getting cheated. I have a KSAC senior. Practice is now two days a week slightly less than an hour each.


That is one more day/hour than we are getting.
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Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.


Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.


That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?


"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.


I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.


The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.


How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?



Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?


You should start your own club. You clearly have superior knowledge about everything.


We get one day a week for 60 minutes. Do you think that's reasonable?



I think that you see the universe through the eyes of only your nine year old who did not make advanced juniors, you reject information we have provided to you about how this club works and why they have do things the way they do things in multiple exchanges. You want more for your kid for less money. I believe you have indicated that you want: (1) all kids to be able to come to more practices (2) the decision about who makes advanced groups to have nothing to do with speed because you don't care about competitions but only practice attendance; (3) attendance at every practice made available to a certain group of kids to be mandatory; (4) lanes to have fewer kids in them; (5) the cost to be cheaper then RMSC; (6) no changes be made to the schedule to reflect evolving health regulations without consultation with 100s of participants' parents; (6) the schedule to be developed in light of evolving health department restrictions to serve a mystery number of swimmers (because you don't want to have to pay a deposit to indicate you want to swim during a pandemic). I think you should develop a business plan and figure out how this would work? Would you have kids of all abilities just sign up for the number of practices they want to attend and then have coaches deal with disparate speeds and kids lapping each other at any given practice? How much would you pay for lane space, how much would you pay your coaches, therefore how much would you charge "per practice." Go through this exercise and see if you can create a club to fit your preferences.


We paid the deposit and lost it in the system. There was a glitch and we were supposed to be reimbursed and it wasn't and then we were told to take it up with the county. After much back and forth we were told by several different people the responsibility was on someone else and never go that money back. Great if you got your deposit back but we never did and paid full price for the session.

We are getting one day a week. At that point they might as well put the sessions on hold if its such a health issue.

Attendance should be considered. If there are 4 sessions, one child swims only 1 session a week, those kids should get cut from the team, especially when others would love their spot and are willing to swim 4 days a week or we need to reduce swimmer numbers because of covid.

RMSC isn't paying for the pool or lifeguard costs. They are only paying for the coaches. We generally have 2-3 coaches per 40-60 kids depending on who shows up.

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