RMSC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Please keep in mind that pre-Covid, most groups had more practices available than required/recommended to allow for schedule flexibility. That is a perk we had with RMSC that many clubs do not offer. I have had swimmers who started in minis and now are in advanced groups. Neither of my children regularly went to a 4th advanced junior practice, and therefore generally practiced less than 5h per week. I think the reductions we are seeing now are all based on a standard % of the required/recommended practice time not what we all remember of pre-Covid available practice time.

It is disappointing to have limited practice time now, but it's the hand we are currently dealt. Based on what I've seen across groups I know kids in, I believe RMSC got a lot of priority in pool time (vs. community use) with the current limits.

That is exactly what isn't fair. You have some kids who attend all and cannot seem to move up and kids like yours who barely attend taking up space. They should cut those kids who don't attend the majority of the sessions. You shouldn't be holding a spot if you only swim 1-2 days out of 4 a week.

RMSC dominates the county pools so others aren't allowed to use it. They don't pay for the pool time or life guards. They should allow other teams to also use the pools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They were the only group. Is that unusual? There were multiple practices a week and there was only one group each time.

I'm still not understanding the issue.
RMSC has the facility to itself basically at this point.
Did anyone have a much larger group before this change?

We are at KSAC too and have no idea what's going on. Our practices were small but they had two overlapping groups so that may be the issue. We only had 2-3 kids generally per lane. The plan was for up to 4 kids but thankfully they were able to keep numbers low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There won't be any meets for the next few months anyhow. Doing fewer practices and reducing risk is probably a good thing.

Kids need to practice but there was never any discussions of meets so that's a non-issue. There is no where else to even just swim outside of team, so its an issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.

That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?

"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.

That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?

"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.

I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could you be a bit nicer?
I think the issue is that some groups were already way less than 20 using only one pool. But they are getting moved around or cancelled to make room for probably the advanced swimmers.

Juniors seem to be consolidated from 4 groups to 3 which is much less safe. Stupid really for Montgomery County to do this given the results.

But it is 25 people in the facility, even in set ups with two pools. My kid's subgroups are now ~20/10. I assume there is no one else while the 20 are there. Maybe 1-2 community patron lap spots. And while the group of 10 is there, I assume another practice group also has a group of 10 on the other side.

In all of these cases, I am sure it was an enormous puzzle and many hours this weekend for everyone involved to figure out what was safe, reasonable and fair. I agree with others, I do not think it will last long, one way or the other.

Be grateful you have an indoor facility. Some Montgomery County teams are practicing outside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.

That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?

"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.

For the younger kids, the prices are different. For the older kids they aren't that much different. Some groups are getting a lot of practice times, some very little. Its not fair nor are their prices given they don't pay for pool/lifeguard or county employee time. My kid gets very little.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could you be a bit nicer?
I think the issue is that some groups were already way less than 20 using only one pool. But they are getting moved around or cancelled to make room for probably the advanced swimmers.

Juniors seem to be consolidated from 4 groups to 3 which is much less safe. Stupid really for Montgomery County to do this given the results.

But it is 25 people in the facility, even in set ups with two pools. My kid's subgroups are now ~20/10. I assume there is no one else while the 20 are there. Maybe 1-2 community patron lap spots. And while the group of 10 is there, I assume another practice group also has a group of 10 on the other side.

In all of these cases, I am sure it was an enormous puzzle and many hours this weekend for everyone involved to figure out what was safe, reasonable and fair. I agree with others, I do not think it will last long, one way or the other.

Be grateful you have an indoor facility. Some Montgomery County teams are practicing outside.

Some groups are barely practicing. I'd prefer my child practice outside in a heated pool given the option, especially if they can go more. Its much safer and my child would be fine with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.

That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?

"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.

I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.

The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Please keep in mind that pre-Covid, most groups had more practices available than required/recommended to allow for schedule flexibility. That is a perk we had with RMSC that many clubs do not offer. I have had swimmers who started in minis and now are in advanced groups. Neither of my children regularly went to a 4th advanced junior practice, and therefore generally practiced less than 5h per week. I think the reductions we are seeing now are all based on a standard % of the required/recommended practice time not what we all remember of pre-Covid available practice time.

It is disappointing to have limited practice time now, but it's the hand we are currently dealt. Based on what I've seen across groups I know kids in, I believe RMSC got a lot of priority in pool time (vs. community use) with the current limits.

That is exactly what isn't fair. You have some kids who attend all and cannot seem to move up and kids like yours who barely attend taking up space. They should cut those kids who don't attend the majority of the sessions. You shouldn't be holding a spot if you only swim 1-2 days out of 4 a week.

RMSC dominates the county pools so others aren't allowed to use it. They don't pay for the pool time or life guards. They should allow other teams to also use the pools.

That's just not how it works. Advanced juniors are expected to swim 3d/wk, if they want to come to an extra practice, great. This is not "barely attending". If they want to play basketball and piano, great. If they want to do math tutoring another day, great. Then, when the kid makes it to NTG in high school and they are ready to commit all their activity time to swimming, there is still somewhere to progress and a better chance they haven't burned out or suffered overuse injuries. Happy, healthy swimmers should be the goal.

Also, if they expected everyone to attend every practice offered for minis, juniors, advanced juniors, the groups would actually be smaller and less kids would get the opportunity to participate. The numbers are based on some portion of kids being out of any practice. Other clubs just offer the set schedule of your 2-3 days per week, and you can figure out your other activities around that from season to season. I have always enjoyed the flexibility because anyone involved in soccer, basketball, lacrosse, etc., knows those schedules come out last minute every season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.

That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?

"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.

I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.

The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.

How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.

That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?

"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.

I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.

The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.

How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?

Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Please keep in mind that pre-Covid, most groups had more practices available than required/recommended to allow for schedule flexibility. That is a perk we had with RMSC that many clubs do not offer. I have had swimmers who started in minis and now are in advanced groups. Neither of my children regularly went to a 4th advanced junior practice, and therefore generally practiced less than 5h per week. I think the reductions we are seeing now are all based on a standard % of the required/recommended practice time not what we all remember of pre-Covid available practice time.

It is disappointing to have limited practice time now, but it's the hand we are currently dealt. Based on what I've seen across groups I know kids in, I believe RMSC got a lot of priority in pool time (vs. community use) with the current limits.

That is exactly what isn't fair. You have some kids who attend all and cannot seem to move up and kids like yours who barely attend taking up space. They should cut those kids who don't attend the majority of the sessions. You shouldn't be holding a spot if you only swim 1-2 days out of 4 a week.

RMSC dominates the county pools so others aren't allowed to use it. They don't pay for the pool time or life guards. They should allow other teams to also use the pools.

That's just not how it works. Advanced juniors are expected to swim 3d/wk, if they want to come to an extra practice, great. This is not "barely attending". If they want to play basketball and piano, great. If they want to do math tutoring another day, great. Then, when the kid makes it to NTG in high school and they are ready to commit all their activity time to swimming, there is still somewhere to progress and a better chance they haven't burned out or suffered overuse injuries. Happy, healthy swimmers should be the goal.

Also, if they expected everyone to attend every practice offered for minis, juniors, advanced juniors, the groups would actually be smaller and less kids would get the opportunity to participate. The numbers are based on some portion of kids being out of any practice. Other clubs just offer the set schedule of your 2-3 days per week, and you can figure out your other activities around that from season to season. I have always enjoyed the flexibility because anyone involved in soccer, basketball, lacrosse, etc., knows those schedules come out last minute every season.

They absolutely should expect swimmers to come to every practice. We do and still get in multiple other activities some through school some outside no issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.

That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?

"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.

I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.

The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.

How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?

Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?

You should start your own club. You clearly have superior knowledge about everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jrs 2 is cut down to 90 minutes. Advanced Jr is only 2.25 hour in the week. Those are not enough practice for advanced swimmers that usual get 7.

Well, if your child is that advanced, why don't you move to a different club, find a private facility, or move to a different part of the country.

That's more than we are getting. All kids should get the same amount. Regular kids cannot ever catch up or move ahead as they swim much less. Private groups are 2-4 times the cost. many of us cannot afford that.

Any suggestions on affordable groups swimming a few times a week?

"Fair" is not 50 minutes a week for some groups and 2.25 hours for others. The prices are not that different.

I have two swimmers, one that is competitive and the other isn’t. Every Advanced and NDG/Select/NTG had the same amount of access to the pool during the early years of training. Yes, your child can move forward with the amount of practice time provided. If my advanced swimmer started out training 5-6 times per week, he would’ve burned out.

The reduced amount of time isn’t a RMSC issue, it’s a county one as a result of a pandemic. Start writing emails to the county council members if you would like more pool time or... find a cure to covid.

The cure for covid is people stop traveling, eating out and socializing but that's not going to happen.

The advanced group swim 1-2 times a week more in juniors than the regular. Mine gladly will swim 5-6 days a week and at times we've supplemented elsewhere to get the practices in. Yours may not do well with more but some of our kids do better and enjoy more.

How old is your child? What swim group is s/he in?

Juniors. We have yet to hear the new plan from RMSC. Any suggestions on where else to go?

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