So realistically, when do you think somewhat normal full time f2f education will resume?

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Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

In this optimistic scenario, if we wait for a vaccine for our children to go back to school, then our children will have missed one and a third years of school. 10% of their K-12 education.

Pandemics are inconvenient.

If our kids miss 10% of their public schooling, then "inconvenience" is not the right word.

It's not the pandemic that's keeping our kids out of school. It's school officials' belief that the only acceptable level of risk of getting covid at school is: zero.

It is the pandemic. And that’s an excellent risk tolerance. Any argument from you to the contrary makes you a bad person and a terrible parent and you should have your children removed from your custody.

DP. This is a crazy statement. No one who takes a wider view will agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking Spring 2022 will be the earliest if the county/teachers want a vaccine to go back to school. If a vaccine is out in early 2021, the manufacturing process and distribution to the community will be a full year to implement. With the way things are landing with the state and county decisions and teachers not being considered essential front line employees, people should start adapting to this new norm for the next 18 to 24 months which means finding childcare, cutting discretionary costs like Netflix, cell phone plans for the family (only having a family cell phone or land line), changing car insurance levels, looking at cheaper housing, accepting that you will be your child’s Interim teacher, guidance counselor Etc. For single household families, working to build a network of support of “it takes a village” will be key even if that means reaching out to other single families to create a cohort of support for each other and pooling shared resources etc.

Assuming that things are going to go back to normal anytime soon instead planning for this new normal will be a detriment to many families.

100% agree. Adjust both your expectations and your logistics now.

Wow. Your privilege is showing. You clearly have no idea how hard this has been and will continually be for single parents, esol students, immigrants, low income families etc...

My prediction is that once school starts back we are going to see news stories of kids dying Or being seriously hurt from being left Home alone when Their parents had to make the difficult choice to go to work to be able to afford food or stay hike with their kids and starve.
The fact that you think these families are worried about their Netflix accounts and insurance levels is laughable. People who are already struggling don't have those things to cut back on. Try to look beyond yourself and realize that school closures are causing much more than an "inconvenience".

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021, sadly. There are two ways I think they'd be open to full-time F2F:

1. Everyone vaccinated. Even if we have vaccine by the end of this year, it will take at least 6 months to vaccinate 330 million people.
2. Rapid testing (like, answer in an hour). Then if any kid shows symptoms, test the whole classroom the same day, so you have results before they even go home.

#2 requires a higher level of acceptance of risk. Based on watching the BOE meeting earlier this week, I'm skeptical MCPS will even be open to this should it be possible.

At a certain point though, they can't just continue keeping kids out of school because they simply don't want to take on any risk. I think probably a whole academic year with the hybrid option will be OK (I mean it's not great but it's something) but anything longer than that is going to break the entire educational system. Kids will be at least a year behind and it's just going to be absolutely terrible.

Really, kids will be a year behind? They will learn absolutely nothing during DL? All these parents criticizing DL probably just never had much insight into how much their children learned or didn’t learn in regular school. All of a sudden their lives will be ruined by a year of substandard learning, justifying the need to risk the lives of teachers, parents, grandparents, and yes also some children. The selfishness of people is beyond belief. Get your childcare another way without endangering others.

DP. My kids are in high school. I don't need childcare. My children do need an education. And yes, they need school for that. It is not selfish of me to want my children, and everybody else's children, to get an education.

Pp, it is commonly known that kids know what they need to know by 14 and that high school is just warehousing

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Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

In this optimistic scenario, if we wait for a vaccine for our children to go back to school, then our children will have missed one and a third years of school. 10% of their K-12 education.

Pandemics are inconvenient.

If our kids miss 10% of their public schooling, then "inconvenience" is not the right word.

It's not the pandemic that's keeping our kids out of school. It's school officials' belief that the only acceptable level of risk of getting covid at school is: zero.

It is the pandemic. And that’s an excellent risk tolerance. Any argument from you to the contrary makes you a bad person and a terrible parent and you should have your children removed from your custody.

DP. This is a crazy statement. No one who takes a wider view will agree with you.

Ask me how much I care? I am right. It is immaterial whether others agree with me. My objective is not persuasion but explaining to others HOW things will be, not asking whether they agree with it. People like the pp seem to believe their views on this are valid and worthy of being heard. They’re not.

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021, sadly. There are two ways I think they'd be open to full-time F2F:

1. Everyone vaccinated. Even if we have vaccine by the end of this year, it will take at least 6 months to vaccinate 330 million people.
2. Rapid testing (like, answer in an hour). Then if any kid shows symptoms, test the whole classroom the same day, so you have results before they even go home.

#2 requires a higher level of acceptance of risk. Based on watching the BOE meeting earlier this week, I'm skeptical MCPS will even be open to this should it be possible.

At a certain point though, they can't just continue keeping kids out of school because they simply don't want to take on any risk. I think probably a whole academic year with the hybrid option will be OK (I mean it's not great but it's something) but anything longer than that is going to break the entire educational system. Kids will be at least a year behind and it's just going to be absolutely terrible.

Really, kids will be a year behind? They will learn absolutely nothing during DL? All these parents criticizing DL probably just never had much insight into how much their children learned or didn’t learn in regular school. All of a sudden their lives will be ruined by a year of substandard learning, justifying the need to risk the lives of teachers, parents, grandparents, and yes also some children. The selfishness of people is beyond belief. Get your childcare another way without endangering others.

Stupid tw*t, my kid is 15 years old and needs zero child care but an EDUCATION.

And they are getting one to the best of the public school system’s abilities and in consideration of public health. Your child is in more need of a parent who cares about needs other than their own and doesn’t call people names on the internet. Be a role model instead of throwing tantrums.

NP. Since you mention caring about the needs of others - there are millions of kids and families in this country who are not in a position to provide either the educational support or the - yes - childcare schools are expected to provide. This isn't about DCUMers' "tantrums", this is about policy and the social ramifications of prolonged school closures, which are grave for millions, and likely are not outweighed by the actual benefit they have for stemming the pandemic and "saving lives". This is what is so infuriating about how this is being approached, if you think beyond your own little privileged world. Aside from that, though, it's also legitimate even for privileged parents to be concerned about the effects of this on their own kids, especially if you don't believe that school closures will have a significant impact on overall mortality.

You mean those millions who also are more likely to live with elderly relatives that will get infected when kids are back at school? Anyway, since you don’t *believe* that school closures have any effect, there is nothing to discuss. You should really have led with that.

Reading is fundamental. I did not say they don't have any effect. I said that their beneficial effects likely don't outweigh their negative effects in the long run. There are many experts who have raised this concern by now, and their voices will only grow louder. It's the conversation we need to have.

Just as an example, IF the early estimate by the Imperial College (who generally issued dire predictions) is correct that opening schools might increase overall deaths by 2-4% (we don't know if that's the case, but say it is), does such an increase in mortality warrant the enormous costs of school closures to millions of kids and society? Especially if the vast majority of those deaths would be among the elderly and already ill? That is a question for bioethicists that is not easy to answer.

Slight distinction: the answer is easy, in fact. It's just not pleasant.

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021, sadly. There are two ways I think they'd be open to full-time F2F:

1. Everyone vaccinated. Even if we have vaccine by the end of this year, it will take at least 6 months to vaccinate 330 million people.
2. Rapid testing (like, answer in an hour). Then if any kid shows symptoms, test the whole classroom the same day, so you have results before they even go home.

#2 requires a higher level of acceptance of risk. Based on watching the BOE meeting earlier this week, I'm skeptical MCPS will even be open to this should it be possible.

At a certain point though, they can't just continue keeping kids out of school because they simply don't want to take on any risk. I think probably a whole academic year with the hybrid option will be OK (I mean it's not great but it's something) but anything longer than that is going to break the entire educational system. Kids will be at least a year behind and it's just going to be absolutely terrible.

Really, kids will be a year behind? They will learn absolutely nothing during DL? All these parents criticizing DL probably just never had much insight into how much their children learned or didn’t learn in regular school. All of a sudden their lives will be ruined by a year of substandard learning, justifying the need to risk the lives of teachers, parents, grandparents, and yes also some children. The selfishness of people is beyond belief. Get your childcare another way without endangering others.

Stupid tw*t, my kid is 15 years old and needs zero child care but an EDUCATION.

And they are getting one to the best of the public school system’s abilities and in consideration of public health. Your child is in more need of a parent who cares about needs other than their own and doesn’t call people names on the internet. Be a role model instead of throwing tantrums.

NP. Since you mention caring about the needs of others - there are millions of kids and families in this country who are not in a position to provide either the educational support or the - yes - childcare schools are expected to provide. This isn't about DCUMers' "tantrums", this is about policy and the social ramifications of prolonged school closures, which are grave for millions, and likely are not outweighed by the actual benefit they have for stemming the pandemic and "saving lives". This is what is so infuriating about how this is being approached, if you think beyond your own little privileged world. Aside from that, though, it's also legitimate even for privileged parents to be concerned about the effects of this on their own kids, especially if you don't believe that school closures will have a significant impact on overall mortality.

You mean those millions who also are more likely to live with elderly relatives that will get infected when kids are back at school? Anyway, since you don’t *believe* that school closures have any effect, there is nothing to discuss. You should really have led with that.

Reading is fundamental. I did not say they don't have any effect. I said that their beneficial effects likely don't outweigh their negative effects in the long run. There are many experts who have raised this concern by now, and their voices will only grow louder. It's the conversation we need to have.

Just as an example, IF the early estimate by the Imperial College (who generally issued dire predictions) is correct that opening schools might increase overall deaths by 2-4% (we don't know if that's the case, but say it is), does such an increase in mortality warrant the enormous costs of school closures to millions of kids and society? Especially if the vast majority of those deaths would be among the elderly and already ill? That is a question for bioethicists that is not easy to answer.

Yeah, “no significant impact on mortality” is not the same as saying that the benefits don’t outweigh the costs. Also, this is not what bioethicists do, they research the ethics of bio research, e.g. stem cells etc. I just hope you are not in a position to influence things as you seem to be ready to condemn the elderly and the already ill to not just any, but a horrible death.

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Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

In this optimistic scenario, if we wait for a vaccine for our children to go back to school, then our children will have missed one and a third years of school. 10% of their K-12 education.

Pandemics are inconvenient.

If our kids miss 10% of their public schooling, then "inconvenience" is not the right word.

It's not the pandemic that's keeping our kids out of school. It's school officials' belief that the only acceptable level of risk of getting covid at school is: zero.

It is the pandemic. And that’s an excellent risk tolerance. Any argument from you to the contrary makes you a bad person and a terrible parent and you should have your children removed from your custody.

DP. This is a crazy statement. No one who takes a wider view will agree with you.

Ask me how much I care? I am right. It is immaterial whether others agree with me. My objective is not persuasion but explaining to others HOW things will be, not asking whether they agree with it. People like the pp seem to believe their views on this are valid and worthy of being heard. They’re not.

Must be nice to go through life with such a simplistic, black and white view of the world, and such certainty of your own righteousness. Fortunately for DCUM, your forum is DCUM, and not any context in which thinking about these dilemmas actually leads to real life decisions.

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*fortunately for everybody I meant to say

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021, sadly. There are two ways I think they'd be open to full-time F2F:

1. Everyone vaccinated. Even if we have vaccine by the end of this year, it will take at least 6 months to vaccinate 330 million people.
2. Rapid testing (like, answer in an hour). Then if any kid shows symptoms, test the whole classroom the same day, so you have results before they even go home.

#2 requires a higher level of acceptance of risk. Based on watching the BOE meeting earlier this week, I'm skeptical MCPS will even be open to this should it be possible.

At a certain point though, they can't just continue keeping kids out of school because they simply don't want to take on any risk. I think probably a whole academic year with the hybrid option will be OK (I mean it's not great but it's something) but anything longer than that is going to break the entire educational system. Kids will be at least a year behind and it's just going to be absolutely terrible.

Really, kids will be a year behind? They will learn absolutely nothing during DL? All these parents criticizing DL probably just never had much insight into how much their children learned or didn’t learn in regular school. All of a sudden their lives will be ruined by a year of substandard learning, justifying the need to risk the lives of teachers, parents, grandparents, and yes also some children. The selfishness of people is beyond belief. Get your childcare another way without endangering others.

Stupid tw*t, my kid is 15 years old and needs zero child care but an EDUCATION.

And they are getting one to the best of the public school system’s abilities and in consideration of public health. Your child is in more need of a parent who cares about needs other than their own and doesn’t call people names on the internet. Be a role model instead of throwing tantrums.

NP. Since you mention caring about the needs of others - there are millions of kids and families in this country who are not in a position to provide either the educational support or the - yes - childcare schools are expected to provide. This isn't about DCUMers' "tantrums", this is about policy and the social ramifications of prolonged school closures, which are grave for millions, and likely are not outweighed by the actual benefit they have for stemming the pandemic and "saving lives". This is what is so infuriating about how this is being approached, if you think beyond your own little privileged world. Aside from that, though, it's also legitimate even for privileged parents to be concerned about the effects of this on their own kids, especially if you don't believe that school closures will have a significant impact on overall mortality.

You mean those millions who also are more likely to live with elderly relatives that will get infected when kids are back at school? Anyway, since you don’t *believe* that school closures have any effect, there is nothing to discuss. You should really have led with that.

Reading is fundamental. I did not say they don't have any effect. I said that their beneficial effects likely don't outweigh their negative effects in the long run. There are many experts who have raised this concern by now, and their voices will only grow louder. It's the conversation we need to have.

Just as an example, IF the early estimate by the Imperial College (who generally issued dire predictions) is correct that opening schools might increase overall deaths by 2-4% (we don't know if that's the case, but say it is), does such an increase in mortality warrant the enormous costs of school closures to millions of kids and society? Especially if the vast majority of those deaths would be among the elderly and already ill? That is a question for bioethicists that is not easy to answer.

Yeah, “no significant impact on mortality” is not the same as saying that the benefits don’t outweigh the costs. Also, this is not what bioethicists do, they research the ethics of bio research, e.g. stem cells etc. I just hope you are not in a position to influence things as you seem to be ready to condemn the elderly and the already ill to not just any, but a horrible death.

You are wrong about that. Educate yourself. Bioethicists's work is not confined to stem cell research and related fields.

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I keep hearing that schools in NJ and and NY (city suburbs, no idea about upstate) are planning for in person. Why can’t the DMV schools??

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021, sadly. There are two ways I think they'd be open to full-time F2F:

1. Everyone vaccinated. Even if we have vaccine by the end of this year, it will take at least 6 months to vaccinate 330 million people.
2. Rapid testing (like, answer in an hour). Then if any kid shows symptoms, test the whole classroom the same day, so you have results before they even go home.

#2 requires a higher level of acceptance of risk. Based on watching the BOE meeting earlier this week, I'm skeptical MCPS will even be open to this should it be possible.

At a certain point though, they can't just continue keeping kids out of school because they simply don't want to take on any risk. I think probably a whole academic year with the hybrid option will be OK (I mean it's not great but it's something) but anything longer than that is going to break the entire educational system. Kids will be at least a year behind and it's just going to be absolutely terrible.

Really, kids will be a year behind? They will learn absolutely nothing during DL? All these parents criticizing DL probably just never had much insight into how much their children learned or didn’t learn in regular school. All of a sudden their lives will be ruined by a year of substandard learning, justifying the need to risk the lives of teachers, parents, grandparents, and yes also some children. The selfishness of people is beyond belief. Get your childcare another way without endangering others.

Stupid tw*t, my kid is 15 years old and needs zero child care but an EDUCATION.

And they are getting one to the best of the public school system’s abilities and in consideration of public health. Your child is in more need of a parent who cares about needs other than their own and doesn’t call people names on the internet. Be a role model instead of throwing tantrums.

NP. Since you mention caring about the needs of others - there are millions of kids and families in this country who are not in a position to provide either the educational support or the - yes - childcare schools are expected to provide. This isn't about DCUMers' "tantrums", this is about policy and the social ramifications of prolonged school closures, which are grave for millions, and likely are not outweighed by the actual benefit they have for stemming the pandemic and "saving lives". This is what is so infuriating about how this is being approached, if you think beyond your own little privileged world. Aside from that, though, it's also legitimate even for privileged parents to be concerned about the effects of this on their own kids, especially if you don't believe that school closures will have a significant impact on overall mortality.

You mean those millions who also are more likely to live with elderly relatives that will get infected when kids are back at school? Anyway, since you don’t *believe* that school closures have any effect, there is nothing to discuss. You should really have led with that.

Reading is fundamental. I did not say they don't have any effect. I said that their beneficial effects likely don't outweigh their negative effects in the long run. There are many experts who have raised this concern by now, and their voices will only grow louder. It's the conversation we need to have.

Just as an example, IF the early estimate by the Imperial College (who generally issued dire predictions) is correct that opening schools might increase overall deaths by 2-4% (we don't know if that's the case, but say it is), does such an increase in mortality warrant the enormous costs of school closures to millions of kids and society? Especially if the vast majority of those deaths would be among the elderly and already ill? That is a question for bioethicists that is not easy to answer.

Yeah, “no significant impact on mortality” is not the same as saying that the benefits don’t outweigh the costs. Also, this is not what bioethicists do, they research the ethics of bio research, e.g. stem cells etc. I just hope you are not in a position to influence things as you seem to be ready to condemn the elderly and the already ill to not just any, but a horrible death.

Right, those are two separate parts of the argument. But "no significant impact on mortality" doesn't mean the closures have "no effect", which is what you claimed I said. It means that the effect will likely not be large, and probably not big enough to justify the overall harms. We can debate whether they will or not, and then whether the benefits outweigh the harms, but the fact is, nobody knows what impact school closures have in THIS pandemic. Experience from past flu pandemics (where schools were closed for much shorter periods of time) is of limited value, because the flu is much more transmissible by children and affects the age groups who generally populate schools more severely.

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Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

Yeah, people at the FDA shouldn’t be speculating on something as unpredictable as clinical trials, assuming you’re telling the truth.

OP, I’m crossing all fingers and toes for Fall 2021. The upcoming year is going to be a wash.

Not acceptable.

Oh, I completely agree. It’s TOTALLY unacceptable. I’m not sure what we as parents can do about that, beyond contacting the people in charge.

This is what people said and the red-states that rushed to reopen and look what that got them.

Yes. Look at where stamping feet about mask wearing got the red states. Adjust your expectations: F2F by Fall 2021 will be your best case scenario. We have been banned from Europe for God’s sake. Think we can manage the logistics of a complicated vaccine rollout in a timely fashion?

I’m sure it was just an oversight that you didn’t mention the millions of people that protested in May and June. The BLM Cloak of Virtue didn’t extend to people you disagree with amirite? Houston is a blue city, had 60,000 + protesters AND and Floyd funeral and their hospitals are busting at the seems. But obviously it was only republicans that caused this.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking Spring 2022 will be the earliest if the county/teachers want a vaccine to go back to school. If a vaccine is out in early 2021, the manufacturing process and distribution to the community will be a full year to implement. With the way things are landing with the state and county decisions and teachers not being considered essential front line employees, people should start adapting to this new norm for the next 18 to 24 months which means finding childcare, cutting discretionary costs like Netflix, cell phone plans for the family (only having a family cell phone or land line), changing car insurance levels, looking at cheaper housing, accepting that you will be your child’s Interim teacher, guidance counselor Etc. For single household families, working to build a network of support of “it takes a village” will be key even if that means reaching out to other single families to create a cohort of support for each other and pooling shared resources etc.

Assuming that things are going to go back to normal anytime soon instead planning for this new normal will be a detriment to many families.

100% agree. Adjust both your expectations and your logistics now.

Wow. Your privilege is showing. You clearly have no idea how hard this has been and will continually be for single parents, esol students, immigrants, low income families etc...

My prediction is that once school starts back we are going to see news stories of kids dying Or being seriously hurt from being left Home alone when Their parents had to make the difficult choice to go to work to be able to afford food or stay hike with their kids and starve.
The fact that you think these families are worried about their Netflix accounts and insurance levels is laughable. People who are already struggling don't have those things to cut back on. Try to look beyond yourself and realize that school closures are causing much more than an "inconvenience".

Schools are not daycares. Suggest you start making childcare arrangements; you're going to need them.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking Spring 2022 will be the earliest if the county/teachers want a vaccine to go back to school. If a vaccine is out in early 2021, the manufacturing process and distribution to the community will be a full year to implement. With the way things are landing with the state and county decisions and teachers not being considered essential front line employees, people should start adapting to this new norm for the next 18 to 24 months which means finding childcare, cutting discretionary costs like Netflix, cell phone plans for the family (only having a family cell phone or land line), changing car insurance levels, looking at cheaper housing, accepting that you will be your child’s Interim teacher, guidance counselor Etc. For single household families, working to build a network of support of “it takes a village” will be key even if that means reaching out to other single families to create a cohort of support for each other and pooling shared resources etc.

Assuming that things are going to go back to normal anytime soon instead planning for this new normal will be a detriment to many families.

100% agree. Adjust both your expectations and your logistics now.

Wow. Your privilege is showing. You clearly have no idea how hard this has been and will continually be for single parents, esol students, immigrants, low income families etc...

My prediction is that once school starts back we are going to see news stories of kids dying Or being seriously hurt from being left Home alone when Their parents had to make the difficult choice to go to work to be able to afford food or stay hike with their kids and starve.
The fact that you think these families are worried about their Netflix accounts and insurance levels is laughable. People who are already struggling don't have those things to cut back on. Try to look beyond yourself and realize that school closures are causing much more than an "inconvenience".

Schools are not daycares. Suggest you start making childcare arrangements; you're going to need them.

Actually, schools IS daycare as well for younger kids. The PP might be able to afford making arrangements, millions of people do not, and it's going to have ripple effects all around society:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/03/big-factor-holding-back-us-economic-recovery-child-care/

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking Spring 2022 will be the earliest if the county/teachers want a vaccine to go back to school. If a vaccine is out in early 2021, the manufacturing process and distribution to the community will be a full year to implement. With the way things are landing with the state and county decisions and teachers not being considered essential front line employees, people should start adapting to this new norm for the next 18 to 24 months which means finding childcare, cutting discretionary costs like Netflix, cell phone plans for the family (only having a family cell phone or land line), changing car insurance levels, looking at cheaper housing, accepting that you will be your child’s Interim teacher, guidance counselor Etc. For single household families, working to build a network of support of “it takes a village” will be key even if that means reaching out to other single families to create a cohort of support for each other and pooling shared resources etc.

Assuming that things are going to go back to normal anytime soon instead planning for this new normal will be a detriment to many families.

100% agree. Adjust both your expectations and your logistics now.

Wow. Your privilege is showing. You clearly have no idea how hard this has been and will continually be for single parents, esol students, immigrants, low income families etc...

My prediction is that once school starts back we are going to see news stories of kids dying Or being seriously hurt from being left Home alone when Their parents had to make the difficult choice to go to work to be able to afford food or stay hike with their kids and starve.
The fact that you think these families are worried about their Netflix accounts and insurance levels is laughable. People who are already struggling don't have those things to cut back on. Try to look beyond yourself and realize that school closures are causing much more than an "inconvenience".

This is the norm. We can keep talking about privileged and the unprivileged. The reality is the virus doesn’t care. People are expecting to get back to the way things use to be but that’s not going to happen. Living in this delusional realm that things will go back to normal will hurt more people. Folks need to adapt. What folks don’t want to hear is that this virus will cause a larger division between the haves versus the have nots. Social programs are not going to be able to lessen the gap as revenue for these programs (ie taxes etc) will be taking a huge hit as the economy slides into a Great Depression error. Folks need to start arranging for their own support systems if they want to try to survive this without relying on social programs and yes that means numerous sacrifices that people don’t want to accept. This is our Great Depression era and people need to start to face this head on a figure out how they can make it work for their families.