So realistically, when do you think somewhat normal full time f2f education will resume?

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021

Most experts claim a vaccine will be available in late 2020 to early 2021. I'm guessing January 2021.

Then.. at least 6 months to vaccinate the entire population. I read somewhere that they expect a shortage of the glass used to make the vials that hold vaccines. It's some special type of glass and there's a limited capacity to produce it.

Also for these vaccines -- how about the pediatric vaccine? Aren't all the tests being done on an adult vaccine? We'd need to do the same for pediatric also.

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Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

Yeah, people at the FDA shouldn’t be speculating on something as unpredictable as clinical trials, assuming you’re telling the truth.

OP, I’m crossing all fingers and toes for Fall 2021. The upcoming year is going to be a wash.

Not acceptable.

Oh, I completely agree. It’s TOTALLY unacceptable. I’m not sure what we as parents can do about that, beyond contacting the people in charge.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

Yeah, people at the FDA shouldn’t be speculating on something as unpredictable as clinical trials, assuming you’re telling the truth.

OP, I’m crossing all fingers and toes for Fall 2021. The upcoming year is going to be a wash.

Not acceptable.

Oh, I completely agree. It’s TOTALLY unacceptable. I’m not sure what we as parents can do about that, beyond contacting the people in charge.

That's a start.

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021, sadly. There are two ways I think they'd be open to full-time F2F:

1. Everyone vaccinated. Even if we have vaccine by the end of this year, it will take at least 6 months to vaccinate 330 million people.
2. Rapid testing (like, answer in an hour). Then if any kid shows symptoms, test the whole classroom the same day, so you have results before they even go home.

#2 requires a higher level of acceptance of risk. Based on watching the BOE meeting earlier this week, I'm skeptical MCPS will even be open to this should it be possible.

At a certain point though, they can't just continue keeping kids out of school because they simply don't want to take on any risk. I think probably a whole academic year with the hybrid option will be OK (I mean it's not great but it's something) but anything longer than that is going to break the entire educational system. Kids will be at least a year behind and it's just going to be absolutely terrible.

Really, kids will be a year behind? They will learn absolutely nothing during DL? All these parents criticizing DL probably just never had much insight into how much their children learned or didn’t learn in regular school. All of a sudden their lives will be ruined by a year of substandard learning, justifying the need to risk the lives of teachers, parents, grandparents, and yes also some children. The selfishness of people is beyond belief. Get your childcare another way without endangering others.

DP. My kids are in high school. I don't need childcare. My children do need an education. And yes, they need school for that. It is not selfish of me to want my children, and everybody else's children, to get an education.

DL IS school. If your kids are in high school, then they are capable of independent study. They are also capable of social distancing and keeping their masks on. So I see this whole debate as much more relevant to elementary/middle school kids, which is why I mentioned childcare.

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Fall 2021 IF WE'RE LUCKY!

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DL IS school. If your kids are in high school, then they are capable of independent study. They are also capable of social distancing and keeping their masks on. So I see this whole debate as much more relevant to elementary/middle school kids, which is why I mentioned childcare.

Nope. It's not. It's providing educational materials over the Internet. Is Khan Academy school?

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021, sadly. There are two ways I think they'd be open to full-time F2F:

1. Everyone vaccinated. Even if we have vaccine by the end of this year, it will take at least 6 months to vaccinate 330 million people.
2. Rapid testing (like, answer in an hour). Then if any kid shows symptoms, test the whole classroom the same day, so you have results before they even go home.

#2 requires a higher level of acceptance of risk. Based on watching the BOE meeting earlier this week, I'm skeptical MCPS will even be open to this should it be possible.

At a certain point though, they can't just continue keeping kids out of school because they simply don't want to take on any risk. I think probably a whole academic year with the hybrid option will be OK (I mean it's not great but it's something) but anything longer than that is going to break the entire educational system. Kids will be at least a year behind and it's just going to be absolutely terrible.

Really, kids will be a year behind? They will learn absolutely nothing during DL? All these parents criticizing DL probably just never had much insight into how much their children learned or didn’t learn in regular school. All of a sudden their lives will be ruined by a year of substandard learning, justifying the need to risk the lives of teachers, parents, grandparents, and yes also some children. The selfishness of people is beyond belief. Get your childcare another way without endangering others.

Stupid tw*t, my kid is 15 years old and needs zero child care but an EDUCATION.

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Fall 2021.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021, sadly. There are two ways I think they'd be open to full-time F2F:

1. Everyone vaccinated. Even if we have vaccine by the end of this year, it will take at least 6 months to vaccinate 330 million people.
2. Rapid testing (like, answer in an hour). Then if any kid shows symptoms, test the whole classroom the same day, so you have results before they even go home.

#2 requires a higher level of acceptance of risk. Based on watching the BOE meeting earlier this week, I'm skeptical MCPS will even be open to this should it be possible.

At a certain point though, they can't just continue keeping kids out of school because they simply don't want to take on any risk. I think probably a whole academic year with the hybrid option will be OK (I mean it's not great but it's something) but anything longer than that is going to break the entire educational system. Kids will be at least a year behind and it's just going to be absolutely terrible.

Really, kids will be a year behind? They will learn absolutely nothing during DL? All these parents criticizing DL probably just never had much insight into how much their children learned or didn’t learn in regular school. All of a sudden their lives will be ruined by a year of substandard learning, justifying the need to risk the lives of teachers, parents, grandparents, and yes also some children. The selfishness of people is beyond belief. Get your childcare another way without endangering others.

DP. My kids are in high school. I don't need childcare. My children do need an education. And yes, they need school for that. It is not selfish of me to want my children, and everybody else's children, to get an education.

This! Geez! Enough with saying this is only about childcare. But the number one issue for most parents is the quality of EDUCATION!! FFS!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021

Most experts claim a vaccine will be available in late 2020 to early 2021. I'm guessing January 2021.

Vaccine might be available, but production and distribution? It would be nice, yet I think somewhat unrealistic. We are already in July and no vaccine yet, and mass produced vaccine and distribution is a tall order.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

Yeah, people at the FDA shouldn’t be speculating on something as unpredictable as clinical trials, assuming you’re telling the truth.

OP, I’m crossing all fingers and toes for Fall 2021. The upcoming year is going to be a wash.

Not acceptable.

Oh, I completely agree. It’s TOTALLY unacceptable. I’m not sure what we as parents can do about that, beyond contacting the people in charge.

That's nuts. It's your life and I'm glad you don't get to decide for the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021 IF WE'RE LUCKY!

I'm hoping Fall 2022 because I like the DL platform.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

Yeah, people at the FDA shouldn’t be speculating on something as unpredictable as clinical trials, assuming you’re telling the truth.

OP, I’m crossing all fingers and toes for Fall 2021. The upcoming year is going to be a wash.

Not acceptable.

Oh, I completely agree. It’s TOTALLY unacceptable. I’m not sure what we as parents can do about that, beyond contacting the people in charge.

This is what people said and the red-states that rushed to reopen and look what that got them.

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Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

The FDA commissioner said today that he has no idea when a vaccine will be available.

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I’m thinking Spring 2022 will be the earliest if the county/teachers want a vaccine to go back to school. If a vaccine is out in early 2021, the manufacturing process and distribution to the community will be a full year to implement. With the way things are landing with the state and county decisions and teachers not being considered essential front line employees, people should start adapting to this new norm for the next 18 to 24 months which means finding childcare, cutting discretionary costs like Netflix, cell phone plans for the family (only having a family cell phone or land line), changing car insurance levels, looking at cheaper housing, accepting that you will be your child’s Interim teacher, guidance counselor Etc. For single household families, working to build a network of support of “it takes a village” will be key even if that means reaching out to other single families to create a cohort of support for each other and pooling shared resources etc.

Assuming that things are going to go back to normal anytime soon instead planning for this new normal will be a detriment to many families.