So realistically, when do you think somewhat normal full time f2f education will resume?

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021, sadly. There are two ways I think they'd be open to full-time F2F:

1. Everyone vaccinated. Even if we have vaccine by the end of this year, it will take at least 6 months to vaccinate 330 million people.
2. Rapid testing (like, answer in an hour). Then if any kid shows symptoms, test the whole classroom the same day, so you have results before they even go home.

#2 requires a higher level of acceptance of risk. Based on watching the BOE meeting earlier this week, I'm skeptical MCPS will even be open to this should it be possible.

At a certain point though, they can't just continue keeping kids out of school because they simply don't want to take on any risk. I think probably a whole academic year with the hybrid option will be OK (I mean it's not great but it's something) but anything longer than that is going to break the entire educational system. Kids will be at least a year behind and it's just going to be absolutely terrible.

Really, kids will be a year behind? They will learn absolutely nothing during DL? All these parents criticizing DL probably just never had much insight into how much their children learned or didn’t learn in regular school. All of a sudden their lives will be ruined by a year of substandard learning, justifying the need to risk the lives of teachers, parents, grandparents, and yes also some children. The selfishness of people is beyond belief. Get your childcare another way without endangering others.

DP. My kids are in high school. I don't need childcare. My children do need an education. And yes, they need school for that. It is not selfish of me to want my children, and everybody else's children, to get an education.

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Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

In this optimistic scenario, if we wait for a vaccine for our children to go back to school, then our children will have missed one and a third years of school. 10% of their K-12 education.

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Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

In this optimistic scenario, if we wait for a vaccine for our children to go back to school, then our children will have missed one and a third years of school. 10% of their K-12 education.

Pandemics are inconvenient.

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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021

This, unfortunately. Maybe when they have a vaccine, they can prioritize first responders and teachers, then kids, then everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

In this optimistic scenario, if we wait for a vaccine for our children to go back to school, then our children will have missed one and a third years of school. 10% of their K-12 education.

Pandemics are inconvenient.

If our kids miss 10% of their public schooling, then "inconvenience" is not the right word.

It's not the pandemic that's keeping our kids out of school. It's school officials' belief that the only acceptable level of risk of getting covid at school is: zero.

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I think those that say there kids are going to learn nothing through distance learning are being extreme. Distance learning this last Spring was terrible, and I agree they did not learn as much as they would in person. But I do think my child learned a little bit (she also had a great teacher who made the most of their Zoom time). My hope is that this year MCPS will step up the distance learning program. I feel like they are wasting a lot of time now, and they really need to figure out how to do this better. I have one in private school, and he definitely learned during distance learning. Was it as good as in person? Of course not, but I don't feel like the entire Spring was lost on him. Kids may not end the year this year exactly where they should be, but I also don't think distance learning means they will be an entire year behind either.

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Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

In this optimistic scenario, if we wait for a vaccine for our children to go back to school, then our children will have missed one and a third years of school. 10% of their K-12 education.

It's completely unacceptable. If they are not back in school, full-time by November, there has to be an uprising. We undertake activities every damn day of our lives that are higher risk than sending our kids to school during this pandemic. This is driven by politics alone. Death rates are now below predicted rates for ALL CAUSES. By September, there will be no reason to prevent our children from getting the education that we pay enormously for. I have two high schoolers, so this is not about childcare. In fact, those of you making it about childcare need to stop. School is not childcare. It is a necessary and critical function of our society. I am dumbfounded that anyone thinks keeping our kids out of school is acceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

Yeah, people at the FDA shouldn’t be speculating on something as unpredictable as clinical trials, assuming you’re telling the truth.

OP, I’m crossing all fingers and toes for Fall 2021. The upcoming year is going to be a wash.

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Anonymous wrote:I think those that say there kids are going to learn nothing through distance learning are being extreme. Distance learning this last Spring was terrible, and I agree they did not learn as much as they would in person. But I do think my child learned a little bit (she also had a great teacher who made the most of their Zoom time). My hope is that this year MCPS will step up the distance learning program. I feel like they are wasting a lot of time now, and they really need to figure out how to do this better. I have one in private school, and he definitely learned during distance learning. Was it as good as in person? Of course not, but I don't feel like the entire Spring was lost on him. Kids may not end the year this year exactly where they should be, but I also don't think distance learning means they will be an entire year behind either.

You really think high school juniors and seniors should miss this entire year of school? Most of them will not be able to go on to college as planned. It's a travesty. We will be getting a refund on our taxes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

In this optimistic scenario, if we wait for a vaccine for our children to go back to school, then our children will have missed one and a third years of school. 10% of their K-12 education.

It's completely unacceptable. If they are not back in school, full-time by November, there has to be an uprising. We undertake activities every damn day of our lives that are higher risk than sending our kids to school during this pandemic. This is driven by politics alone. Death rates are now below predicted rates for ALL CAUSES. By September, there will be no reason to prevent our children from getting the education that we pay enormously for. I have two high schoolers, so this is not about childcare. In fact, those of you making it about childcare need to stop. School is not childcare. It is a necessary and critical function of our society. I am dumbfounded that anyone thinks keeping our kids out of school is acceptable.

It is ALSO about childcare. School is ALSO childcare. It is a necessary and critical function of our society, because of education and ALSO because of childcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know people at the FDA. Promising vaccines with adult roll out and a good number of adults vaccinated around March 2021. Pediatric studies are not steering yet but will follow.

Yeah, people at the FDA shouldn’t be speculating on something as unpredictable as clinical trials, assuming you’re telling the truth.

OP, I’m crossing all fingers and toes for Fall 2021. The upcoming year is going to be a wash.

Not acceptable.

[Anonymous]

After Xmas when there's a vaccine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021, sadly. There are two ways I think they'd be open to full-time F2F:

1. Everyone vaccinated. Even if we have vaccine by the end of this year, it will take at least 6 months to vaccinate 330 million people.
2. Rapid testing (like, answer in an hour). Then if any kid shows symptoms, test the whole classroom the same day, so you have results before they even go home.

#2 requires a higher level of acceptance of risk. Based on watching the BOE meeting earlier this week, I'm skeptical MCPS will even be open to this should it be possible.

At a certain point though, they can't just continue keeping kids out of school because they simply don't want to take on any risk. I think probably a whole academic year with the hybrid option will be OK (I mean it's not great but it's something) but anything longer than that is going to break the entire educational system. Kids will be at least a year behind and it's just going to be absolutely terrible.

Really, kids will be a year behind? They will learn absolutely nothing during DL? All these parents criticizing DL probably just never had much insight into how much their children learned or didn’t learn in regular school. All of a sudden their lives will be ruined by a year of substandard learning, justifying the need to risk the lives of teachers, parents, grandparents, and yes also some children. The selfishness of people is beyond belief. Get your childcare another way without endangering others.

DP. My kids are in high school. I don't need childcare. My children do need an education. And yes, they need school for that. It is not selfish of me to want my children, and everybody else's children, to get an education.

We found that DL was great at least at our school. I wish they just did this going forward. Maybe sold the schools and cut expenses.

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Anonymous wrote:After Xmas when there's a vaccine.

Is that what your crystal ball says?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fall 2021

Most experts claim a vaccine will be available in late 2020 to early 2021. I'm guessing January 2021.