Racist incident in downtown Bethesda yesterday?

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He is just and angry racist white dude that wants his way. It's Bethesda, it's oozing with privilege and racism.

Downtown Bethesda has a Japanese community.

But she’s not even a part of it. She said that she was not in fact Japanese contrary to his racist claims.

I know, I am saying that Bethesda is not oozing racism. I am Asian and live in a SFH on the edge of downtown Bethesda, and my neighbors hail from France, Finland, Turkey, Ecuador, Japan, Russia, etc...
It’s a very multicultural place, so there isn’t the type of white American privilege and racism you’re thinking of.

Just because a location isn't all white doesn't mean it isn't oozing racism. Just do a quick google of Whitman racial incidents. Not good.


Right? I mean, NYC is "very multicultural," and yet, as recent events show, you have tons of racism there.


+1. I'm in Bethesda all the time, or at least I was pre-pandemic to go to the gym--anecdotes about Finnish and Turkish people aside, at the end of the day, Bethesda is mostly white. And just because a community is very international doesn't mean there isn't racism. I'm 1st-gen American, and some of my relatives have definitely said racist stuff about black Americans.
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Anonymous wrote:Disgusting.

Someone send this to Popville. Track this piece of crap down. He shouldn't be hard to find. Sounds like he's drinking 6 cans a day and smoking even more.



Given the number of broad daylight shootings to cover in Popville's main territory of interest, I'm not sure a racist rant in Bethesda is going to really resonate.


He might be connected to the disturbing number of white supremacists popping up in this area. Richard Spencer lived in Arlington until they drove him out. And I remember maybe 2 years ago - police finishing a whole house filled with guns and supremacist literature in Bloomingdale. Can't remember the owner's name but it was some bum living with his mom.


This guy is an idiot who popped off and made racist statements. I'd hardly say what we witnessed makes him a white supremacist. There is even a decent chance he is Jewish judging by appearance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I was totally expecting to see a Coexist bumper sticker on his car.


lmao!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting.

Someone send this to Popville. Track this piece of crap down. He shouldn't be hard to find. Sounds like he's drinking 6 cans a day and smoking even more.



Given the number of broad daylight shootings to cover in Popville's main territory of interest, I'm not sure a racist rant in Bethesda is going to really resonate.


He might be connected to the disturbing number of white supremacists popping up in this area. Richard Spencer lived in Arlington until they drove him out. And I remember maybe 2 years ago - police finishing a whole house filled with guns and supremacist literature in Bloomingdale. Can't remember the owner's name but it was some bum living with his mom.


This guy is an idiot who popped off and made racist statements. I'd hardly say what we witnessed makes him a white supremacist. There is even a decent chance he is Jewish judging by appearance.


He called a child the n-word, implied a woman was a foreigner, and threatened to destroy her perceived homeland.

That's on top of sounding drunk and disorderly. Jesus Christ. You want to talk 'I felt threatened' ala the Central Park incident, THIS is threatening someone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We need to confront this kind of thing EVERY time it happens, just like the woman who was standing up for herself and her son as well as the man who told him to get in the car and go. The response needs to be swift and immediate.

Something similar happened to me in Bethesda (I'm a woman). I look like a Latina, but I'm not. I was in a crowded garage downtown Bethesda and pulled into a parking space. A man who thought the same space belonged to him although there was no physical way for him to pull into that space started SCREAMING at me, cursing, gesturing, signaling that he is going to get out of his car to attack me physically. Another man spetted in and told the guy to get in the car and leave. It was immediately done.

Two things, piss me off about both incidents. The racial component, but also men attacking women thinking that we will just back down. However, these p8ssies back down really fast when a man steps in because, as predicted, they are not brave or dangerous at all.



I just had a conversation with a coworker about this earlier. Men who argue with women automatically look like weak bullies to me. 100% of those men would never do the same to another man.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I was totally expecting to see a Coexist bumper sticker on his car.


lmao!!


I was totally expecting to see the same thing, lol.
Anonymous
Totally agree, PP. Folks are calling the black birder in Central Park threatening for offering treats to a dog, but are bending over backwards to say that this guy was NOT threatening. SMH.
Anonymous
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He called a child the n-word, implied a woman was a foreigner, and threatened to destroy her perceived homeland.

That's on top of sounding drunk and disorderly. Jesus Christ. You want to talk 'I felt threatened' ala the Central Park incident, THIS is threatening someone.


The wording he used, though I'm sure he didn't give much thought to it, is key. I didn't hear any _specific_ threats of immediate violence to her. I don't think any laws were broken.

I guess we'll see. His license plate is visible, and surely MCPD will announce charges if they file them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I was totally expecting to see a Coexist bumper sticker on his car.


lmao!!


I was totally expecting to see the same thing, lol.


Not his demographic--this guy looks to be in his late 60s, at least. The Coexist bumper sticker folks tend to be younger, like 40s.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

He is just and angry racist white dude that wants his way. It's Bethesda, it's oozing with privilege and racism.

Downtown Bethesda has a Japanese community.

But she’s not even a part of it. She said that she was not in fact Japanese contrary to his racist claims.

I know, I am saying that Bethesda is not oozing racism. I am Asian and live in a SFH on the edge of downtown Bethesda, and my neighbors hail from France, Finland, Turkey, Ecuador, Japan, Russia, etc...
It’s a very multicultural place, so there isn’t the type of white American privilege and racism you’re thinking of.

Just because a location isn't all white doesn't mean it isn't oozing racism. Just do a quick google of Whitman racial incidents. Not good.


Right? I mean, NYC is "very multicultural," and yet, as recent events show, you have tons of racism there.


+1. I'm in Bethesda all the time, or at least I was pre-pandemic to go to the gym--anecdotes about Finnish and Turkish people aside, at the end of the day, Bethesda is mostly white. And just because a community is very international doesn't mean there isn't racism. I'm 1st-gen American, and some of my relatives have definitely said racist stuff about black Americans.


There are some parts of Bethesda that are very multi-cultural and accepting. Unfortunately there are also parts of Bethesda and Potomac which are filled with with white supremacists like the jerk in the video, those that flee from parts of DC and MD that have encroaching minorities and want their white haven. They treat minorities poorly, they don't want their children around "those people" and consider anyone that isn't white to be a foreigner who should "go back where they came from". As a non-white person, I've seen enough incidents to realize that Montgomery County is full of racists like this.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that when the man walked up, he suddenly lost his desire to fight.

What a POS


POS, sure. But it didn't really look like he had any intention of fighting. He said do you want to fight and took a step or two out of his car, but it looked like he stopped before the other person got involved. While one can never know how it would have played out, it did not seem like a situation where there was going to be an actual physical altercation.


Gee whiz. The solidarity amongst some white people is unmatched! Even when it's clear as day your brethren are wrong--- they are somehow still made right. If it weren't so disgusting, the unity would be admirable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting.

Someone send this to Popville. Track this piece of crap down. He shouldn't be hard to find. Sounds like he's drinking 6 cans a day and smoking even more.



Given the number of broad daylight shootings to cover in Popville's main territory of interest, I'm not sure a racist rant in Bethesda is going to really resonate.


He might be connected to the disturbing number of white supremacists popping up in this area. Richard Spencer lived in Arlington until they drove him out. And I remember maybe 2 years ago - police finishing a whole house filled with guns and supremacist literature in Bloomingdale. Can't remember the owner's name but it was some bum living with his mom.


This guy is an idiot who popped off and made racist statements. I'd hardly say what we witnessed makes him a white supremacist. There is even a decent chance he is Jewish judging by appearance.


He called a child the n-word, implied a woman was a foreigner, and threatened to destroy her perceived homeland.

That's on top of sounding drunk and disorderly. Jesus Christ. You want to talk 'I felt threatened' ala the Central Park incident, THIS is threatening someone.


I didn't hear the n-word on the tape. She thinks he said it -- and he may have -- but that isn't clear from what I saw.

Implying someone is a foreigner doesn't make someone a white supremacist. It appeared she had an accent of some sort, so if he did that, he would be right -- although it would be an inappropriate and irrelevant thing to say.

Do you think he had an atomic bomb in his trunk? So, yes, it is a threat of sorts, but not one that would cause someone to have direct fear. But even if you take that as a threat, that doesn't make him a white supremacist.

In my mind, there is a big difference between someone making racist statements and even harboring some racist feelings and being a white supremacist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Totally agree, PP. Folks are calling the black birder in Central Park threatening for offering treats to a dog, but are bending over backwards to say that this guy was NOT threatening. SMH.


People have said that what he did is not criminal. That's different. And I haven't seen anyone hear say that the birder was acting in a threatening manner. You are inventing straw men.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting.

Someone send this to Popville. Track this piece of crap down. He shouldn't be hard to find. Sounds like he's drinking 6 cans a day and smoking even more.



Given the number of broad daylight shootings to cover in Popville's main territory of interest, I'm not sure a racist rant in Bethesda is going to really resonate.


He might be connected to the disturbing number of white supremacists popping up in this area. Richard Spencer lived in Arlington until they drove him out. And I remember maybe 2 years ago - police finishing a whole house filled with guns and supremacist literature in Bloomingdale. Can't remember the owner's name but it was some bum living with his mom.


This guy is an idiot who popped off and made racist statements. I'd hardly say what we witnessed makes him a white supremacist. There is even a decent chance he is Jewish judging by appearance.


He called a child the n-word, implied a woman was a foreigner, and threatened to destroy her perceived homeland.

That's on top of sounding drunk and disorderly. Jesus Christ. You want to talk 'I felt threatened' ala the Central Park incident, THIS is threatening someone.


I didn't hear the n-word on the tape. She thinks he said it -- and he may have -- but that isn't clear from what I saw.

Implying someone is a foreigner doesn't make someone a white supremacist. It appeared she had an accent of some sort, so if he did that, he would be right -- although it would be an inappropriate and irrelevant thing to say.

Do you think he had an atomic bomb in his trunk? So, yes, it is a threat of sorts, but not one that would cause someone to have direct fear. But even if you take that as a threat, that doesn't make him a white supremacist.

In my mind, there is a big difference between someone making racist statements and even harboring some racist feelings and being a white supremacist.


You do realize that people with accents can actually be American, right??
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree, PP. Folks are calling the black birder in Central Park threatening for offering treats to a dog, but are bending over backwards to say that this guy was NOT threatening. SMH.


People have said that what he did is not criminal. That's different. And I haven't seen anyone hear say that the birder was acting in a threatening manner. You are inventing straw men.


You're kidding right.

Every other sentence in that thread is 'she felt threatened!' Meanwhile the only thing he did was ask her to back away and offered her dog treats. Someone even said the treats could be poisoned! Hypocrites.

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