MCPS v FCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just to round this out for context:

Fairfax has more people, a younger population, higher property values, higher percentages of adults with high school and college degrees, lower social services assistance payments, higher retail sales, more jobs, shorter commutes, higher median household incomes, more National Merit Semifinalists, higher average SAT scores, a larger and stronger STEM magnet, and a lower poverty rate than Montgomery.

Montgomery has more wins in a 25-minute quiz show that, like so many things in that county, almost went out of business recently.

Then it begs the question why can FCPS win it if they are that great? With that larger and stronger STEM and all? It's not for lack of trying.

And why is the proportion of students in MCPS who got on to the more elite universities higher than FCPS. Please don't say FCPS has great in state univ. That is just pathetic to compare GMU to the more well regarded univ. There's nothing wrong with the in state univ, but if you are going to compare like or like, you cannot seriously compare VA in state (or MD in state) to the higher rated univ.

So, a greater proportion of MCPS students go to "elite" colleges, however the hell that is defined, than do FCPS's yet FCPS has higher average SAT scores. The only thing I can conclude from that is that MCPS moms are just more generous giving BJs to admissions officers than are FCPS moms.

PS: Please don't drive on our side of the river. We have children playing here.

No, it means FCPS kids prep a lot, good test-takers and less FARMS. But when it comes to on the field competitions and performances, FCPS underperforms and underachieving.
FCPS is only good at test-takings because they have time to prep.

[Anonymous]

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Yes you do have a larger STEM magnet but not stronger. MCPS crushes not just FCPS but the whole NoVa when it comes to STEM awards and scholars.
They do lot more with less

-Neutral and DP

Cite evidence.

Even though FCPS has a larger STEM, MCPS crushes them every year in STEM.
https://student.societyforscience.org/regeneron-sts-2019-scholars

FCPS has a whole school dedicated to STEM but they couldn't field even 1member of USAMO, just one.
https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn%3Aaaid%3Ascds%3AUS%3Ac848a7fd-15f5-45b8-9e56-048acb642dc0

FCPS sends more kids to HYPS.

No, they don't. MCPS has higher rate

They have more schools in the top 10 statewide.

??????????
Ok! I'm scratching my head here. What does that have to do with MCPS? They are in Maryland.
FCPS having a lot in the top 10 means that they are good in VIRGINIA only, no competition there and the state of schools in Virginia.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/how-states-compare

VA gave nothing compared to the MD incentives to get HQ2. With HQ2, we're also getting Apple, Microsoft, and other tech companies now. Why? Because our schools are better. Like literally waaaay better. And no one in their right mind will live in MCPS and commute to Crystal City when they can have FCPS schools instead.

??????
Amazon? I guess you need amazon to make your state relevant but the FACT is FCPS and VA trail MCPS and MD in STEM.

Now folks, this is what you call "mic drop"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Yes you do have a larger STEM magnet but not stronger. MCPS crushes not just FCPS but the whole NoVa when it comes to STEM awards and scholars.
They do lot more with less

-Neutral and DP

Cite evidence.

Even though FCPS has a larger STEM, MCPS crushes them every year in STEM.
https://student.societyforscience.org/regeneron-sts-2019-scholars

FCPS has a whole school dedicated to STEM but they couldn't field even 1member of USAMO, just one.
https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn%3Aaaid%3Ascds%3AUS%3Ac848a7fd-15f5-45b8-9e56-048acb642dc0

FCPS sends more kids to HYPS.

No, they don't. MCPS has higher rate

They have more schools in the top 10 statewide.

??????????
Ok! I'm scratching my head here. What does that have to do with MCPS? They are in Maryland.
FCPS having a lot in the top 10 means that they are good in VIRGINIA only, no competition there and the state of schools in Virginia.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/how-states-compare

VA gave nothing compared to the MD incentives to get HQ2. With HQ2, we're also getting Apple, Microsoft, and other tech companies now. Why? Because our schools are better. Like literally waaaay better. And no one in their right mind will live in MCPS and commute to Crystal City when they can have FCPS schools instead.

??????
Amazon? I guess you need amazon to make your state relevant but the FACT is FCPS and VA trail MCPS and MD in STEM.

Now folks, this is what you call "mic drop"

Not really.

I know that you guys want to tout the whole stem thing, but the OP and PP have only ever talked about overall standings. You guys can take all the STEM awards you want: FDA, USDA, NIST, NASA are all nearby. That makes sense.

But it doesn’t make your schools any better than FCPS. We outnumber you in the national rankings period. And I assume that you think STEM is the only thing but does mean that your national rankings are any better. Which is the whole question about the original poster.

And you can keep you version of stem. We will keep the tech jobs, TJ and the lower property taxes and lowers FARMs. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Fairfax has a higher ratio of maker to taker than Montgomery. Everything else flows from that simple fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Yes you do have a larger STEM magnet but not stronger. MCPS crushes not just FCPS but the whole NoVa when it comes to STEM awards and scholars.
They do lot more with less

-Neutral and DP

Cite evidence.

Even though FCPS has a larger STEM, MCPS crushes them every year in STEM.
https://student.societyforscience.org/regeneron-sts-2019-scholars

FCPS has a whole school dedicated to STEM but they couldn't field even 1member of USAMO, just one.
https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn%3Aaaid%3Ascds%3AUS%3Ac848a7fd-15f5-45b8-9e56-048acb642dc0

FCPS sends more kids to HYPS.

No, they don't. MCPS has higher rate

They have more schools in the top 10 statewide.

??????????
Ok! I'm scratching my head here. What does that have to do with MCPS? They are in Maryland.
FCPS having a lot in the top 10 means that they are good in VIRGINIA only, no competition there and the state of schools in Virginia.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/how-states-compare

VA gave nothing compared to the MD incentives to get HQ2. With HQ2, we're also getting Apple, Microsoft, and other tech companies now. Why? Because our schools are better. Like literally waaaay better. And no one in their right mind will live in MCPS and commute to Crystal City when they can have FCPS schools instead.

??????
Amazon? I guess you need amazon to make your state relevant but the FACT is FCPS and VA trail MCPS and MD in STEM.

Now folks, this is what you call "mic drop"

Not really.

I know that you guys want to tout the whole stem thing, but the OP and PP have only ever talked about overall standings. You guys can take all the STEM awards you want: FDA, USDA, NIST, NASA are all nearby. That makes sense.

But it doesn’t make your schools any better than FCPS. We outnumber you in the national rankings period. And I assume that you think STEM is the only thing but does mean that your national rankings are any better. Which is the whole question about the original poster.

And you can keep you version of stem. We will keep the tech jobs, TJ and the lower property taxes and lowers FARMs. Thanks.

LOL
Your camp is the one that mentioned that FCPS has a stronger STEM but when they showed evidences that proved otherwise , suddenly it doesn't matter?
Ok then.

[Anonymous]

Your camp is the one that mentioned that FCPS has a stronger STEM but when they showed evidences that proved otherwise , suddenly it doesn't matter?
Ok then.

My camp is right in the sense that they have TJ. Oh, and a real ISEF winner. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Science_and_Engineering_Fair Reston)

And more science bowl winnings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Science_Bowl

But since you only have arbitrary data to back your argument that your "STEM" is better than ours, and as we don't share the same score board (SOL vs. PARCC) and because you're being a douche, you can keep your STEM argument. Because we trounce it in terms of different metrics.

FCPS is once of the best in the country period. We keep attracting high earners and intellectuals, we have the same if not more government jobs, and yet we are the ones with more schools ranked nationally. You guys can tout Blair and Poolesville, but they haven't broke the top 100 yet, let alone the top 10.

And you know what else? We are going to keep doing it. Because we keep getting the high paying jobs. And we have lower taxes. And we have great public transportation. Oh, and we've got better schools with plenty of STEM to send them to MIT and Stanford. And you know what else?

If you don't like it, you don't have to live here.

*mic drop*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Your camp is the one that mentioned that FCPS has a stronger STEM but when they showed evidences that proved otherwise , suddenly it doesn't matter?
Ok then.

My camp is right in the sense that they have TJ. Oh, and a real ISEF winner. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Science_and_Engineering_Fair Reston)

And more science bowl winnings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Science_Bowl

But since you only have arbitrary data to back your argument that your "STEM" is better than ours, and as we don't share the same score board (SOL vs. PARCC) and because you're being a douche, you can keep your STEM argument. Because we trounce it in terms of different metrics.

FCPS is once of the best in the country period. We keep attracting high earners and intellectuals, we have the same if not more government jobs, and yet we are the ones with more schools ranked nationally. You guys can tout Blair and Poolesville, but they haven't broke the top 100 yet, let alone the top 10.

And you know what else? We are going to keep doing it. Because we keep getting the high paying jobs. And we have lower taxes. And we have great public transportation. Oh, and we've got better schools with plenty of STEM to send them to MIT and Stanford. And you know what else?

If you don't like it, you don't have to live here.

*mic drop*

LOL.
You are just too obtuse.
And Blair leaves TJ in the dust

[Anonymous]

So, a Blair magnet student does this "study" with obvious sample selection issues of defining elite schools solely as Harvard, Princeton and MIT and selects only schools in the top 100 (or whatever; the issue is sample selection) and "finds" a greater proportion of Monkey Co kids go to elite schools. Obviously, just looking at average SAT scores gets rid of these issues. Blair doofus responds that SAT only measures income and not suitability for higher education. Why then, genius,do college ask for test when they can ask for income instead? Please Blair, rescind this idiot's diploma. He is only embarrassing you.

PS: I do not live in Fairfax.

[Anonymous]

Terp Boy has been embarrassing MoCo for years on multiple forums. Just like the crapping Maryland drivers who won’t stay off Virginia roads, he’s crossed the river again to post on a forum that’s primarily about the AAP program in Fairfax.

Ignore him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Terp Boy has been embarrassing MoCo for years on multiple forums. Just like the crapping Maryland drivers who won’t stay off Virginia roads, he’s crossed the river again to post on a forum that’s primarily about the AAP program in Fairfax.

Ignore him.

Um.. sorry, but as someone from the west coast, your constant UVA touting has some of us scratching our heads. UVA is great, sure, but some of you on this forum act live UVA is a nationally renowned college. It isn't. So, I don't think you are one to talk about "Terp Boy". FWIW, I knew not much about UMD either until I started working for Google out west.

You guys are weird. I guess it's like the war of the roses.

[Anonymous]

^like not live

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, a Blair magnet student does this "study" with obvious sample selection issues of defining elite schools solely as Harvard, Princeton and MIT and selects only schools in the top 100 (or whatever; the issue is sample selection) and "finds" a greater proportion of Monkey Co kids go to elite schools. Obviously, just looking at average SAT scores gets rid of these issues. Blair doofus responds that SAT only measures income and not suitability for higher education. Why then, genius,do college ask for test when they can ask for income instead? Please Blair, rescind this idiot's diploma. He is only embarrassing you.

PS: I do not live in Fairfax.

Huh????????
What the hell are talking about? What study did a Blair student do?
If you are clueless about a subject, don't comment on it. You sound ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Terp Boy has been embarrassing MoCo for years on multiple forums. Just like the crapping Maryland drivers who won’t stay off Virginia roads, he’s crossed the river again to post on a forum that’s primarily about the AAP program in Fairfax.

Ignore him.

From what I can see, he's been putting you all to shame. You all just don't like facts and truths. You all prefer to live in the fantasy world where UVA is the top ivy league school, Arlington is silicon valley and Manhattan and Nova schools are the best in the nation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Your camp is the one that mentioned that FCPS has a stronger STEM but when they showed evidences that proved otherwise , suddenly it doesn't matter?
Ok then.

My camp is right in the sense that they have TJ. Oh, and a real ISEF winner. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Science_and_Engineering_Fair Reston)

And more science bowl winnings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Science_Bowl

But since you only have arbitrary data to back your argument that your "STEM" is better than ours, and as we don't share the same score board (SOL vs. PARCC) and because you're being a douche, you can keep your STEM argument. Because we trounce it in terms of different metrics.

FCPS is once of the best in the country period. We keep attracting high earners and intellectuals, we have the same if not more government jobs, and yet we are the ones with more schools ranked nationally. You guys can tout Blair and Poolesville, but they haven't broke the top 100 yet, let alone the top 10.

And you know what else? We are going to keep doing it. Because we keep getting the high paying jobs. And we have lower taxes. And we have great public transportation. Oh, and we've got better schools with plenty of STEM to send them to MIT and Stanford. And you know what else?

If you don't like it, you don't have to live here.

*mic drop*

LOL.
You are just too obtuse.
And Blair leaves TJ in the dust

Nope. You’re a troll who makes things up.

Blair is #1064 in the country. TJ is #4.

You don’t like facts or data. And it shows why MCPS falls so behind FCPS when you are obviously unable to see that #4 is waaaay better than #1064.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/maryland/districts/montgomery-county-public-schools/montgomery-blair-high-9141
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia/districts/fairfax-county-public-schools/thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-20461

But hey— keep spouting lies. It obviously helps your insecurity issues. I’m just glad you’re not living in FCPS and having your kids bring our scores down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Your camp is the one that mentioned that FCPS has a stronger STEM but when they showed evidences that proved otherwise , suddenly it doesn't matter?
Ok then.

My camp is right in the sense that they have TJ. Oh, and a real ISEF winner. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Science_and_Engineering_Fair Reston)

And more science bowl winnings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Science_Bowl

But since you only have arbitrary data to back your argument that your "STEM" is better than ours, and as we don't share the same score board (SOL vs. PARCC) and because you're being a douche, you can keep your STEM argument. Because we trounce it in terms of different metrics.

FCPS is once of the best in the country period. We keep attracting high earners and intellectuals, we have the same if not more government jobs, and yet we are the ones with more schools ranked nationally. You guys can tout Blair and Poolesville, but they haven't broke the top 100 yet, let alone the top 10.

And you know what else? We are going to keep doing it. Because we keep getting the high paying jobs. And we have lower taxes. And we have great public transportation. Oh, and we've got better schools with plenty of STEM to send them to MIT and Stanford. And you know what else?

If you don't like it, you don't have to live here.

*mic drop*

LOL.
You are just too obtuse.
And Blair leaves TJ in the dust

Nope. You’re a troll who makes things up.

Blair is #1064 in the country. TJ is #4.

You don’t like facts or data. And it shows why MCPS falls so behind FCPS when you are obviously unable to see that #4 is waaaay better than #1064.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/maryland/districts/montgomery-county-public-schools/montgomery-blair-high-9141
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia/districts/fairfax-county-public-schools/thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-20461

But hey— keep spouting lies. It obviously helps your insecurity issues. I’m just glad you’re not living in FCPS and having your kids bring our scores down.

tI is a full school magnet. Blair is only 20% magnet. Who is spouting lies?