Your experience with a 40% FARMS rate Middle School

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did and it was an abject disaster. Had to go private in 7th. Dont let your guilt destroy your kids’ education. There’s a reason why parents dont want to send their kids to school with the poors: bc they have “poor” habits which your kid will either pick up or will interfere with ur kid’s learning. 6th was a complete loss for my kid, would have been better off staying at home watchimg tv.

I know and this is why they need to achieve uniform FARMS throughout the county by whatever means necessary. MCPS has an overall FARMS rate below 40%. Concentrating it in a few unfortunate schools is wrong. Diversity busing is the only real answer.

Agree - this should be a top priority!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vote for democrats and their solution to education issues due to poor ethic is to move kids around or lower standards. Keep voting for democrats

Do you live in Montgomery County? The election for the Board of Education is non-partisan.

[Anonymous]

OP,

NP here. You are unfortunately not going to get any answers here, because no one is going to tell the truth.

People are going to lie and say that ther their child almost died or got raped as a result of their decision to let them go toa low ranking public school out of the kindness of their hearts, and that now they are thankful that they saved them by moving intoa good school district and living ina cardboard box to do so, because now there child is writing soliloquys at MIT. And that it was all worth it. They will abhor you to do so before it's too late, lest your own kid succumb to the ways of non-white/poor children. They will say you are not wrong to show this greatest of love for your child. In reality they need to justify paying top dollar and the "white premium" for the neighborhood and district they are in because they likely acted on racial fears by passing on those fears to others.

And then other people are going to say, it's fine to send your kid to struggling school, because they do the same and there kids are now friends witha rainbow variety of kids with diverse viewpoints and languages that enrich their child. They will say that where the test scores fail the school makes up for in community spirit, cultural activities and a walkable neighborhood. They are lying too, because it is most likely that they are gentrifiers that lie about the quality of their neighborhood school so as to attract more gentrifiers so they can geta good return on their investment. But they have really just secured a small privileged space for their child in a school where all the other poor kids are struggling.

The answer is really somewhere in between: your children will most likely be fine because most middle class children with educated parents are fine wherever they go, because they are middle class with educated parents. Except some kids don't do well regardless of their environment, but parents jump at the opportunity to blame this environment rather than themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vote for democrats and their solution to education issues due to poor ethic is to move kids around or lower standards. Keep voting for democrats

Do you live in Montgomery County? The election for the Board of Education is non-partisan.

everyone in county government is a lib. The schools are plurality illegal aliens

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP,

NP here. You are unfortunately not going to get any answers here, because no one is going to tell the truth.

People are going to lie and say that ther their child almost died or got raped as a result of their decision to let them go toa low ranking public school out of the kindness of their hearts, and that now they are thankful that they saved them by moving intoa good school district and living ina cardboard box to do so, because now there child is writing soliloquys at MIT. And that it was all worth it. They will abhor you to do so before it's too late, lest your own kid succumb to the ways of non-white/poor children. They will say you are not wrong to show this greatest of love for your child. In reality they need to justify paying top dollar and the "white premium" for the neighborhood and district they are in because they likely acted on racial fears by passing on those fears to others.

And then other people are going to say, it's fine to send your kid to struggling school, because they do the same and there kids are now friends witha rainbow variety of kids with diverse viewpoints and languages that enrich their child. They will say that where the test scores fail the school makes up for in community spirit, cultural activities and a walkable neighborhood. They are lying too, because it is most likely that they are gentrifiers that lie about the quality of their neighborhood school so as to attract more gentrifiers so they can geta good return on their investment. But they have really just secured a small privileged space for their child in a school where all the other poor kids are struggling.

The answer is really somewhere in between: your children will most likely be fine because most middle class children with educated parents are fine wherever they go, because they are middle class with educated parents. Except some kids don't do well regardless of their environment, but parents jump at the opportunity to blame this environment rather than themselves.

Huh. Is there much gentrification in Howard County?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

NP here. You are unfortunately not going to get any answers here, because no one is going to tell the truth.

People are going to lie and say that ther their child almost died or got raped as a result of their decision to let them go toa low ranking public school out of the kindness of their hearts, and that now they are thankful that they saved them by moving intoa good school district and living ina cardboard box to do so, because now there child is writing soliloquys at MIT. And that it was all worth it. They will abhor you to do so before it's too late, lest your own kid succumb to the ways of non-white/poor children. They will say you are not wrong to show this greatest of love for your child. In reality they need to justify paying top dollar and the "white premium" for the neighborhood and district they are in because they likely acted on racial fears by passing on those fears to others.

And then other people are going to say, it's fine to send your kid to struggling school, because they do the same and there kids are now friends witha rainbow variety of kids with diverse viewpoints and languages that enrich their child. They will say that where the test scores fail the school makes up for in community spirit, cultural activities and a walkable neighborhood. They are lying too, because it is most likely that they are gentrifiers that lie about the quality of their neighborhood school so as to attract more gentrifiers so they can geta good return on their investment. But they have really just secured a small privileged space for their child in a school where all the other poor kids are struggling.

The answer is really somewhere in between: your children will most likely be fine because most middle class children with educated parents are fine wherever they go, because they are middle class with educated parents. Except some kids don't do well regardless of their environment, but parents jump at the opportunity to blame this environment rather than themselves.

Huh. Is there much gentrification in Howard County?

Nope. You see them fleeing schools that they fear will become too black (once the black population goes above 10-15%) rather than finding new territory to gentrify because they can't afford the areas already over-saturated with upper middle whites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vote for democrats and their solution to education issues due to poor ethic is to move kids around or lower standards. Keep voting for democrats

Do you live in Montgomery County? The election for the Board of Education is non-partisan.

everyone in county government is a lib. The schools are plurality illegal aliens

LOL.. I live in MoCo. This is absurd. Even if you were to assume that ALL ESOL students were "illegal aliens" (which is a really assinine assumption because I know several kids who are not illegal immigrants but are in ESOL), that would only amount to about 17.4% of the student population.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/county.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vote for democrats and their solution to education issues due to poor ethic is to move kids around or lower standards. Keep voting for democrats

Do you live in Montgomery County? The election for the Board of Education is non-partisan.

everyone in county government is a lib. The schools are plurality illegal aliens

LOL.. I live in MoCo. This is absurd. Even if you were to assume that ALL ESOL students were "illegal aliens" (which is a really assinine assumption because I know several kids who are not illegal immigrants but are in ESOL), that would only amount to about 17.4% of the student population.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/county.pdf

Of course not all esol students are farm students. Check Farmland ES, high esol and low Farm. Kids of NIH international scientists and international employees work at World Bank, WTO, IMF, etc. they are true rainbow colors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vote for democrats and their solution to education issues due to poor ethic is to move kids around or lower standards. Keep voting for democrats

Do you live in Montgomery County? The election for the Board of Education is non-partisan.

everyone in county government is a lib. The schools are plurality illegal aliens

LOL.. I live in MoCo. This is absurd. Even if you were to assume that ALL ESOL students were "illegal aliens" (which is a really assinine assumption because I know several kids who are not illegal immigrants but are in ESOL), that would only amount to about 17.4% of the student population.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/county.pdf

how did mcps go fro less than 10% Hispanic in 1989 to plurality if not majority Hispanic now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:how did mcps go fro less than 10% Hispanic in 1989 to plurality if not majority Hispanic now?

1989 was 30 years ago. Many things have changed since then - in Montgomery County, the US, and the world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Are you sure your kids are at TPMS? I thought the drug problem for white kids starts in high school. When my kid was at TPMS, an AA kid brought weeds in 8 oz ziplock bads and threw them around with other AA kids during PE. We never received any email about that incident. I am not sure if it was an isolated event or happens often.

Maybe because it didn't happen.

It did happen. Police was called and came. It was eye opening for my DC.

Your kid is pulling the wool over your eyes. Especially because you also think “the drug problem for white kids starts in high school”. You are astonishingly naive on top of being racist.

[Anonymous]

Real answer as long as there is tracking it won't be an issue and I'm assuming most DCUM folks have smart kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would only do it if your kid will be in separate gifted/advanced/honors courses.

This is my choice as well. Just throwing high achieving kids into an already chaotic classroom with students who are behind won’t make much of a difference helping anyone. I would hope that they phase it in and students already in the pyramid continue in the full pyramid, but I doubt that would be workable unless the parents provide their own transportation. I’ll bet the wealthiest neighborhoods are the safest from redistricitng.

[Anonymous]

My children go to a middle school with 41% FARMS. In MoCo. Silver Spring International, to be specific. It has been a lovely middle school for my kids. I have had no whiff of gangs, drugs, violence, etc, that some people may think you may have with "poor" kids at the school.

There is a substantial ESOL population, and I don't have any sense that that creates any negative impact on my children's education.

I think the school does a great job of meeting kids and families where they are and helping them to move ahead. My kids have been in advanced courses and have done well.

I do like and value the diversity of our school community. I think it is a good thing for my children to be exposed to people with diverse backgrounds. And I think it is good for peer pressure and expectations that the whole school is not wealthy. The average kid is not well-off, and so there are not super expensive vacations, activities, devices, in the peer group, which suits me fine.

For the most part, middle class kids with supportive educated parents will do fine in whatever school they are in. Some kids may need extra support, and they should get that support.

Good luck in determining what school setting is best for your child and family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how did mcps go fro less than 10% Hispanic in 1989 to plurality if not majority Hispanic now?

1989 was 30 years ago. Many things have changed since then - in Montgomery County, the US, and the world.

Indeed...