Your experience with a 40% FARMS rate Middle School

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes me chuckle that both HoCo and FFX have had or are having these issues while at the same time, MCPS parents are threatening to move to one of those school districts because MCPS hired a consultant to look into how to look at boundary changes. So, where will these parents who are complaining about MCPS and the hiring of the consultants go now?

Exactly. It’s screws the Middle Class families who have nowhere else to go.

The rich move on to private. Unless Middle Class families can relocate even farther out (we’ve had several neighbors move to Frederick County), they are stuck.

Not sure why that makes you chuckle?

No, it doesn't. Enough with the panic.

Absolutely does. Enough with the pointless attempts at social engineering that everyone knows are useless and ineffective in the long term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes me chuckle that both HoCo and FFX have had or are having these issues while at the same time, MCPS parents are threatening to move to one of those school districts because MCPS hired a consultant to look into how to look at boundary changes. So, where will these parents who are complaining about MCPS and the hiring of the consultants go now?

Exactly. It’s screws the Middle Class families who have nowhere else to go.

The rich move on to private. Unless Middle Class families can relocate even farther out (we’ve had several neighbors move to Frederick County), they are stuck.

Not sure why that makes you chuckle?

It makes me chuckle because all these folks in MCPS who were threatening to move to HoCo or FFX, claiming that MCPS is horrible for doing this, now can't get away from it. Some folks laud HoCo and FFX as the answer to MoCo's school issues. That's why it makes me chuckle.

I live in one of the most diverse clusters in MoCo, and I wouldn't move to Frederick for the schools.

Yeah, people leaving MoCo are not going to Frederick because they want a better education for their students. They just want schools with de facto segregation. I’m less skeptical of those going to HoCo. I don’t know enough about FFX public schools to say, but the VA public schools forum has a LOT of racists.

[Anonymous]

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It will be, yes.

Years ago, I student taught in a Clarksville school. People purchased land just to be able to send their children to those schools. If you think people zoned for River Hill - after paying high prices for a home - will be happy with another school, you're fooling yourself.

Those will means will move. That's ALWAYS been the case. So if you're OK with money leaving the county, then good for you.

I cannot believe how simple so many of you are! I know that sounds harsh, but this is Human Nature 101, folks!

lol

So you're saying that people who own property in River Hill and send their kids to public schools will only be satisfied if those public schools have few or no poor kids in them? What a terrible thing to say those people.

It is what it is. People freak out when they see FARMs numbers go up. The stigma, unfortunately, is there.

Wilde Lake 40% FARMs
River Hill <5% FARMs

If you're wealthy, you buy in wealthy areas. just saying . . .

Maybe you live in a La La Land bubble, but this is not the United Socialism of America. Money attracts money; that's all there is to that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes me chuckle that both HoCo and FFX have had or are having these issues while at the same time, MCPS parents are threatening to move to one of those school districts because MCPS hired a consultant to look into how to look at boundary changes. So, where will these parents who are complaining about MCPS and the hiring of the consultants go now?

Exactly. It’s screws the Middle Class families who have nowhere else to go.

The rich move on to private. Unless Middle Class families can relocate even farther out (we’ve had several neighbors move to Frederick County), they are stuck.

Not sure why that makes you chuckle?

It makes me chuckle because all these folks in MCPS who were threatening to move to HoCo or FFX, claiming that MCPS is horrible for doing this, now can't get away from it. Some folks laud HoCo and FFX as the answer to MoCo's school issues. That's why it makes me chuckle.

I live in one of the most diverse clusters in MoCo, and I wouldn't move to Frederick for the schools.

Yeah, people leaving MoCo are not going to Frederick because they want a better education for their students. They just want schools with de facto segregation. I’m less skeptical of those going to HoCo. I don’t know enough about FFX public schools to say, but the VA public schools forum has a LOT of racists.

Our FCPS (MD) school cluster is excellent. We're in a new development, and it's probably the most diverse area in our little community - whites, but many Asians, African Americans, and Africans who left Mo Co and Northern Va. for better schools.

If you've been around long enough, you see the patterns. Uber wealthy send their kids to private. UMC move to up and coming areas, which is our little corner of the MD. My kids are happy and doing well. They are learning and they've made many friends.

So you can generalize all you want, but as an educator, I think I can see the difference. not saying all FCPS schools are great - But we found a gem!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I do not think that the BOE will go through with Dr. Martirano's suggested redistricting plan. He did this for political optics to appease the bleeding hearts. People will fight his plan and put pressure on the board to come up with a logical redistricting option that will not destroy the high performing schools in Howard County. However, there are three known school board members who have their hands in the back pockets of county council members who are crazy enough to vote in Dr. Martirano's plan.

There is already backlash and community protests. The next few board meetings in Howard County are going to be quite interesting.

Also, if your child is segregated into all GT courses, then you have nothing to worry about. Physical education will be the only course that your child will have to interact with the lower performing students. Physical education is usually okay because I find that students who are not academically inclined actually do well in physical education. However, if your child is in any of the regular major subject courses (math, science, geography, English, etc.), then your child will encounter some problems. Parents of GT students have nothing to stress about. Parents of non GT students better fight like Hell!

The GT students self segregate themselves from those students. So, there is limited interaction, peer pressure, and excusable social destruction if your child takes all GT courses. Parents of white and Asian students will have nothing to worry about because for the most part white and Asian students self segregate themselves anyway.

Please note that if you are a parent of a high performing or GT African American and Latino child, then, you too better fight like Hell. Lower performing minority students (specifically African American and Latino) are negative influences towards GT AA and Latino students. There is way too much social pressure to not value education and to engage in social destructive behaviors. You want your child to thrive in an environment where being an intellectual is phenomenal and not in an environment will they will be ostracized for "acting white".

There is so much generalizing, stereotyping and racism in the above post that I just don’t know where to start...sickening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes me chuckle that both HoCo and FFX have had or are having these issues while at the same time, MCPS parents are threatening to move to one of those school districts because MCPS hired a consultant to look into how to look at boundary changes. So, where will these parents who are complaining about MCPS and the hiring of the consultants go now?

Exactly. It’s screws the Middle Class families who have nowhere else to go.

The rich move on to private. Unless Middle Class families can relocate even farther out (we’ve had several neighbors move to Frederick County), they are stuck.

Not sure why that makes you chuckle?

It makes me chuckle because all these folks in MCPS who were threatening to move to HoCo or FFX, claiming that MCPS is horrible for doing this, now can't get away from it. Some folks laud HoCo and FFX as the answer to MoCo's school issues. That's why it makes me chuckle.

I live in one of the most diverse clusters in MoCo, and I wouldn't move to Frederick for the schools.

Yeah, people leaving MoCo are not going to Frederick because they want a better education for their students. They just want schools with de facto segregation. I’m less skeptical of those going to HoCo. I don’t know enough about FFX public schools to say, but the VA public schools forum has a LOT of racists.

White flight...it’s the American way. Has been going on for decades.

[Anonymous]

You all do realize that the study will not make any actual recommendations? And that 3 new high schools will be opening within a few years (Northwood, Woodward and Crown)? Do you think elected officials, who presumably want to be reelected, are going to make any changes, and then make them again within a few years when those high schools open? If yes, I have a bridge or monument to sell you (so I can then afford to send my kids to private!)!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all do realize that the study will not make any actual recommendations? And that 3 new high schools will be opening within a few years (Northwood, Woodward and Crown)? Do you think elected officials, who presumably want to be reelected, are going to make any changes, and then make them again within a few years when those high schools open? If yes, I have a bridge or monument to sell you (so I can then afford to send my kids to private!)!

Then why is the County spending all this money to even do the study right now? Why not wait another 5 years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all do realize that the study will not make any actual recommendations? And that 3 new high schools will be opening within a few years (Northwood, Woodward and Crown)? Do you think elected officials, who presumably want to be reelected, are going to make any changes, and then make them again within a few years when those high schools open? If yes, I have a bridge or monument to sell you (so I can then afford to send my kids to private!)!

Northwood is not a new high school.

Woodward and Crown are slated to open, and the study will take that into account.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Absolutely does. Enough with the pointless attempts at social engineering that everyone knows are useless and ineffective in the long term.

The residential segregation in Montgomery County is the direct result of social-engineering policies like zoning, redlining, and highway-building.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Our FCPS (MD) school cluster is excellent. We're in a new development, and it's probably the most diverse area in our little community - whites, but many Asians, African Americans, and Africans who left Mo Co and Northern Va. for better schools.

If you've been around long enough, you see the patterns. Uber wealthy send their kids to private. UMC move to up and coming areas, which is our little corner of the MD. My kids are happy and doing well. They are learning and they've made many friends.

So you can generalize all you want, but as an educator, I think I can see the difference. not saying all FCPS schools are great - But we found a gem!

Urbana is certainly growing - unfortunately, as far as area traffic and air/water quality are concerned. (Frederick County land use policies are terrible.) However, I don't think there will be mass exodus of upper-middle-class people to Urbana.

It's good that you're happy where you are, though.

[Anonymous]

Urbana is all sprawl right now but it does have the best test results in FCPS right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I do not think that the BOE will go through with Dr. Martirano's suggested redistricting plan. He did this for political optics to appease the bleeding hearts. People will fight his plan and put pressure on the board to come up with a logical redistricting option that will not destroy the high performing schools in Howard County. However, there are three known school board members who have their hands in the back pockets of county council members who are crazy enough to vote in Dr. Martirano's plan.

There is already backlash and community protests. The next few board meetings in Howard County are going to be quite interesting.

Also, if your child is segregated into all GT courses, then you have nothing to worry about. Physical education will be the only course that your child will have to interact with the lower performing students. Physical education is usually okay because I find that students who are not academically inclined actually do well in physical education. However, if your child is in any of the regular major subject courses (math, science, geography, English, etc.), then your child will encounter some problems. Parents of GT students have nothing to stress about. Parents of non GT students better fight like Hell!

The GT students self segregate themselves from those students. So, there is limited interaction, peer pressure, and excusable social destruction if your child takes all GT courses. Parents of white and Asian students will have nothing to worry about because for the most part white and Asian students self segregate themselves anyway.

Please note that if you are a parent of a high performing or GT African American and Latino child, then, you too better fight like Hell. Lower performing minority students (specifically African American and Latino) are negative influences towards GT AA and Latino students. There is way too much social pressure to not value education and to engage in social destructive behaviors. You want your child to thrive in an environment where being an intellectual is phenomenal and not in an environment will they will be ostracized for "acting white".

There is so much generalizing, stereotyping and racism in the above post that I just don’t know where to start...sickening.

Oh, wow. That is a total yuckfest. What is up with the whole "lower performing ruining everything but good at pe" crap? My kids are magnet but have a variety of classes with non magnet students. It is fine. Fine in English, History, music, art and pe. Disruptions are not necessarily from "lower performing " kids. What a bunch of hogwash.

[Anonymous]

What is interesting in Urbana? nothing. I know 4 families that moved there that hate it. the schools are just ok, not worth losing the convenience of being closer to dc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes me chuckle that both HoCo and FFX have had or are having these issues while at the same time, MCPS parents are threatening to move to one of those school districts because MCPS hired a consultant to look into how to look at boundary changes. So, where will these parents who are complaining about MCPS and the hiring of the consultants go now?

Exactly. It’s screws the Middle Class families who have nowhere else to go.

The rich move on to private. Unless Middle Class families can relocate even farther out (we’ve had several neighbors move to Frederick County), they are stuck.

Not sure why that makes you chuckle?

It makes me chuckle because all these folks in MCPS who were threatening to move to HoCo or FFX, claiming that MCPS is horrible for doing this, now can't get away from it. Some folks laud HoCo and FFX as the answer to MoCo's school issues. That's why it makes me chuckle.

I live in one of the most diverse clusters in MoCo, and I wouldn't move to Frederick for the schools.

Yeah, people leaving MoCo are not going to Frederick because they want a better education for their students. They just want schools with de facto segregation. I’m less skeptical of those going to HoCo. I don’t know enough about FFX public schools to say, but the VA public schools forum has a LOT of racists.

Our FCPS (MD) school cluster is excellent. We're in a new development, and it's probably the most diverse area in our little community - whites, but many Asians, African Americans, and Africans who left Mo Co and Northern Va. for better schools.

If you've been around long enough, you see the patterns. Uber wealthy send their kids to private. UMC move to up and coming areas, which is our little corner of the MD. My kids are happy and doing well. They are learning and they've made many friends.

So you can generalize all you want, but as an educator, I think I can see the difference. not saying all FCPS schools are great - But we found a gem!

Ah, you are the infamous “so glad to be out of MCPS” DCUMer who moved to Frederick Co.