Reading Level @ start of AAP

[Anonymous]

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LOL. Or had a copy of Lord of the Rings in K?! And she’s so gifted she’s not in AAP and not bored in all her classes?

I don't think PP is local. My DC was reading with comprehension as a 4 year old, read Harry Potter in the summer between K and 1st, and Percy Jackson in 1st-2nd. DC was very conspicuously ahead of the other kids in the same grade level at our FCPS school. I just can't imagine a kid being 6 or more years ahead of that, and then having the parent think it's no big deal.

[Anonymous]

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Oh I agree. Her reading level was tested at 6th grade at the time. But she’s not the most gifted child I know. And I only know a few kids. She could read a few pages at a time but they were reading together. Im sure there exist kids who are much more advanced than my dd.

A 6th grade reading level at age 4 is so extraordinarily rare that there's no way you would have encountered kids who are more advanced than that. It's like saying that your 4 year old just passed Honors Algebra, but it's no big deal because you know of a few 4 year olds in Geometry. Having a child in the 99.999th percentile is at least vaguely plausible. Acting as if it's no big deal and that you personally know several kids more advanced than your DD is not even remotely possible.

I know a 7yo who completed Algebra I with flying colors.

[Anonymous]

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Oh I agree. Her reading level was tested at 6th grade at the time. But she’s not the most gifted child I know. And I only know a few kids. She could read a few pages at a time but they were reading together. Im sure there exist kids who are much more advanced than my dd.

A 6th grade reading level at age 4 is so extraordinarily rare that there's no way you would have encountered kids who are more advanced than that. It's like saying that your 4 year old just passed Honors Algebra, but it's no big deal because you know of a few 4 year olds in Geometry. Having a child in the 99.999th percentile is at least vaguely plausible. Acting as if it's no big deal and that you personally know several kids more advanced than your DD is not even remotely possible.

I know a 7yo who completed Algebra I with flying colors.

In public school? Or at Kimon?

[Anonymous]

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Oh I agree. Her reading level was tested at 6th grade at the time. But she’s not the most gifted child I know. And I only know a few kids. She could read a few pages at a time but they were reading together. Im sure there exist kids who are much more advanced than my dd.

A 6th grade reading level at age 4 is so extraordinarily rare that there's no way you would have encountered kids who are more advanced than that. It's like saying that your 4 year old just passed Honors Algebra, but it's no big deal because you know of a few 4 year olds in Geometry. Having a child in the 99.999th percentile is at least vaguely plausible. Acting as if it's no big deal and that you personally know several kids more advanced than your DD is not even remotely possible.

I know a 7yo who completed Algebra I with flying colors.

In public school? Or at Kimon?

Homeschool. AoPS Academy student.

[Anonymous]

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I know a 7yo who completed Algebra I with flying colors.

There's a huge difference between a 7 year old and a 4 year old.

[Anonymous]

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I know a 7yo who completed Algebra I with flying colors.

There's a huge difference between a 7 year old and a 4 year old.

I didn’t draw this comparison. But a 5yo reading at a 6th grade level and a 1st grader finishing Algebra is roughly the same amount of acceleration. 6/7 years?

[Anonymous]

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Oh I agree. Her reading level was tested at 6th grade at the time. But she’s not the most gifted child I know. And I only know a few kids. She could read a few pages at a time but they were reading together. Im sure there exist kids who are much more advanced than my dd.

A 6th grade reading level at age 4 is so extraordinarily rare that there's no way you would have encountered kids who are more advanced than that. It's like saying that your 4 year old just passed Honors Algebra, but it's no big deal because you know of a few 4 year olds in Geometry. Having a child in the 99.999th percentile is at least vaguely plausible. Acting as if it's no big deal and that you personally know several kids more advanced than your DD is not even remotely possible.

I know a 7yo who completed Algebra I with flying colors.

In public school? Or at Kimon?

Homeschool. AoPS Academy student.

Yeah, I’m not buying that. Sorry. Did the kid pass the Algebra SOL?

[Anonymous]

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I know a 7yo who completed Algebra I with flying colors.

There's a huge difference between a 7 year old and a 4 year old.

I didn’t draw this comparison. But a 5yo reading at a 6th grade level and a 1st grader finishing Algebra is roughly the same amount of acceleration. 6/7 years?

Yep, and both situations are quite remarkable. I'm sure in both cases, the parents would recognize that their kids are on the extreme right end of the bell curve. There wouldn't be any claims that the kid is fine in regular school and has plenty of peers.

PP isn't keeping her story straight, anyway. Sometimes, it's a 5 year old reading on a 6th grade level. Other times, it's a 4 year old reading LotR, which is at least a 9th grade level or even a full adult level.

[Anonymous]

I read the Lord of the Rings summer after either first or second grade, but I was very advanced reader. I wonder now to what extent I understood them - I tended to miss a lot of even not-so-subtle things as a child. (Did you know that the Narnia books are Christian-themed? I sure didn't.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child isn’t in AAP. She isn’t in a gifted program at all. I’m not lying. I’ve briefly posted about my dd before. She was independently tested by an outside team. Her teachers have always thrown up their arms. There has been nothing they can do. She is also ahead in math.

It’s true that the further removed I become from her early milestones the more remarkable they seem to me. I have other kids! She’s my oldest. But when she was doing these things I thought I was delusional.

It's not that I doubt the existence of kids who are profoundly gifted. I question your portrayal of your DD on this forum. If she had a team of psychologists testing her at an early age and had teachers who found her so far beyond the curriculum that they had no idea how to even approach her, then there's no way you would imagine that there are tons of kids out there just like your DD. If your DD is as gifted as you claim, you're being weirdly disingenuous about the whole thing. The smartest kid in the grade is probably reading Harry Potter in 1st or K. It wouldn't at all strike you as odd if your kid is sitting next to that kid, reading War and Peace or some other full-fledged adult novel? I mean, really?

I don’t really know what you mean by the bolded. DD didn’t read an adult novel until 3rd grade I think.

She was at least 6 years ahead in reading at age 4 and she has remained that way. Her comprehension is extremely advanced and remarkable. I never said it wasn’t. I felt like I alluded to it enough when I described how she sat for hours at a time at barely two to listen to chapter books. We didn’t know it at the time. But if you’ve been around a lot of 2yos you learn that’s very abnormal! She has a high IQ, but how am I supposed to act? How are her teachers supposed to act? She’s just a kid. She goes to normal school. Her teachers were not about to give her a 6th grade curriculum so a good K curriculum was just as good as anything in between. We don’t have a gifted program so there isn’t any posturing to be had here. You all could learn to be a little more blasé if you ask me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child isn’t in AAP. She isn’t in a gifted program at all. I’m not lying. I’ve briefly posted about my dd before. She was independently tested by an outside team. Her teachers have always thrown up their arms. There has been nothing they can do. She is also ahead in math.

It’s true that the further removed I become from her early milestones the more remarkable they seem to me. I have other kids! She’s my oldest. But when she was doing these things I thought I was delusional.

It's not that I doubt the existence of kids who are profoundly gifted. I question your portrayal of your DD on this forum. If she had a team of psychologists testing her at an early age and had teachers who found her so far beyond the curriculum that they had no idea how to even approach her, then there's no way you would imagine that there are tons of kids out there just like your DD. If your DD is as gifted as you claim, you're being weirdly disingenuous about the whole thing. The smartest kid in the grade is probably reading Harry Potter in 1st or K. It wouldn't at all strike you as odd if your kid is sitting next to that kid, reading War and Peace or some other full-fledged adult novel? I mean, really?

I don’t really know what you mean by the bolded. DD didn’t read an adult novel until 3rd grade I think.

She was at least 6 years ahead in reading at age 4 and she has remained that way. Her comprehension is extremely advanced and remarkable. I never said it wasn’t. I felt like I alluded to it enough when I described how she sat for hours at a time at barely two to listen to chapter books. We didn’t know it at the time. But if you’ve been around a lot of 2yos you learn that’s very abnormal! She has a high IQ, but how am I supposed to act? How are her teachers supposed to act? She’s just a kid. She goes to normal school. Her teachers were not about to give her a 6th grade curriculum so a good K curriculum was just as good as anything in between. We don’t have a gifted program so there isn’t any posturing to be had here. You all could learn to be a little more blasé if you ask me.

So you don’t have a gifted program? Why are you on an AAP forum then? I don’t understand.

[Anonymous]

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I don’t really know what you mean by the bolded. DD didn’t read an adult novel until 3rd grade I think.

She was at least 6 years ahead in reading at age 4 and she has remained that way. Her comprehension is extremely advanced and remarkable. I never said it wasn’t. I felt like I alluded to it enough when I described how she sat for hours at a time at barely two to listen to chapter books. We didn’t know it at the time. But if you’ve been around a lot of 2yos you learn that’s very abnormal! She has a high IQ, but how am I supposed to act? How are her teachers supposed to act? She’s just a kid. She goes to normal school. Her teachers were not about to give her a 6th grade curriculum so a good K curriculum was just as good as anything in between. We don’t have a gifted program so there isn’t any posturing to be had here. You all could learn to be a little more blasé if you ask me.

You keep contradicting yourself. That's why we're all confused. Sometimes, you say your DD was reading or comprehending a 9th grade or perhaps adult novel (Lord of the Rings) as a 4 year old. Other times, you say she was tested at a 6th grade reading level in K. The first situation is significantly more advanced than the second. A child "merely" reading at a 6th grade level in K could not have read or understood LotR in K, much less as a 4 year old.

I'm glad your child is fine being in regular school with regular kids. Numerous studies have shown that most gifted kids do not function particularly well in a regular classroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child isn’t in AAP. She isn’t in a gifted program at all. I’m not lying. I’ve briefly posted about my dd before. She was independently tested by an outside team. Her teachers have always thrown up their arms. There has been nothing they can do. She is also ahead in math.

It’s true that the further removed I become from her early milestones the more remarkable they seem to me. I have other kids! She’s my oldest. But when she was doing these things I thought I was delusional.

It's not that I doubt the existence of kids who are profoundly gifted. I question your portrayal of your DD on this forum. If she had a team of psychologists testing her at an early age and had teachers who found her so far beyond the curriculum that they had no idea how to even approach her, then there's no way you would imagine that there are tons of kids out there just like your DD. If your DD is as gifted as you claim, you're being weirdly disingenuous about the whole thing. The smartest kid in the grade is probably reading Harry Potter in 1st or K. It wouldn't at all strike you as odd if your kid is sitting next to that kid, reading War and Peace or some other full-fledged adult novel? I mean, really?

I don’t really know what you mean by the bolded. DD didn’t read an adult novel until 3rd grade I think.

She was at least 6 years ahead in reading at age 4 and she has remained that way. Her comprehension is extremely advanced and remarkable. I never said it wasn’t. I felt like I alluded to it enough when I described how she sat for hours at a time at barely two to listen to chapter books. We didn’t know it at the time. But if you’ve been around a lot of 2yos you learn that’s very abnormal! She has a high IQ, but how am I supposed to act? How are her teachers supposed to act? She’s just a kid. She goes to normal school. Her teachers were not about to give her a 6th grade curriculum so a good K curriculum was just as good as anything in between. We don’t have a gifted program so there isn’t any posturing to be had here. You all could learn to be a little more blasé if you ask me.

So you don’t have a gifted program? Why are you on an AAP forum then? I don’t understand.

And if her school system had a gifted program, would she be blase about her DD not being in it?

[Anonymous]

I just don't buy for a second that a kid who is that far ahead in reading with apparently that high of an IQ is just perfectly fine in regular school. It would be like spending 7 hours/day staring at the walls, watching the paint dry. I mean, can you imagine a child who is reading Lord of the Rings in K sitting through the "A says aaah" lessons, or the "See Dick Run" stuff?

I think PP could stand to be less blasé about her DD's education. The kid must be bored out of her mind and learning nothing at all at school. Why is this acceptable to PP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don't buy for a second that a kid who is that far ahead in reading with apparently that high of an IQ is just perfectly fine in regular school. It would be like spending 7 hours/day staring at the walls, watching the paint dry. I mean, can you imagine a child who is reading Lord of the Rings in K sitting through the "A says aaah" lessons, or the "See Dick Run" stuff?

I think PP could stand to be less blasé about her DD's education. The kid must be bored out of her mind and learning nothing at all at school. Why is this acceptable to PP?

Where do you think kids like this belong? Like I said, she entered K six years ahead in reading. Even your standard gifted program wouldn’t be a challenge. At least a good K program is fun. She never, as far as I’m aware, sat through a phonics lesson. She could read about any subject that interested her.