Reading Level @ start of AAP

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Anonymous wrote:There are kids who can comprehend lord of the rings at age 4 so reading Harry Potter at age 8 seems reasonable for gifted kids.

There are kids who can read the words at 4, very few kids, but comprehend? Doubtful. There are kids who can complete calculus problems at 4 but do they understand the concepts? Huge difference between sounding out the words and comprehension.

Yes. Comprehend. They exist. However there are only a few. Just like there are a few kids who will understand the concepts behind the Pythagorean theorem and completing the square at age 4.

Where do they exist? Certainly not among the parents I was talking about who claim their kid can read Harry Potter in grades K-2.

Plenty of advanced readers can comprehend Harry Potter in 2nd grade. Not most, but plenty. And there are kids, far and few between, who can comprehend Harry Potter in K.

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Anonymous wrote:There are kids who can comprehend lord of the rings at age 4 so reading Harry Potter at age 8 seems reasonable for gifted kids.

There are kids who can read the words at 4, very few kids, but comprehend? Doubtful. There are kids who can complete calculus problems at 4 but do they understand the concepts? Huge difference between sounding out the words and comprehension.

Yes. Comprehend. They exist. However there are only a few. Just like there are a few kids who will understand the concepts behind the Pythagorean theorem and completing the square at age 4.

Where do they exist? Certainly not among the parents I was talking about who claim their kid can read Harry Potter in grades K-2.

Plenty of advanced readers can comprehend Harry Potter in 2nd grade. Not most, but plenty. And there are kids, far and few between, who can comprehend Harry Potter in K.

Not Harry Potter. Lord of the rings.

I know a kid who read and comprehended Harry Potter in K. But definitely not Lord of the rings.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are kids who can comprehend lord of the rings at age 4 so reading Harry Potter at age 8 seems reasonable for gifted kids.

There are kids who can read the words at 4, very few kids, but comprehend? Doubtful. There are kids who can complete calculus problems at 4 but do they understand the concepts? Huge difference between sounding out the words and comprehension.

Yes. Comprehend. They exist. However there are only a few. Just like there are a few kids who will understand the concepts behind the Pythagorean theorem and completing the square at age 4.

Where do they exist? Certainly not among the parents I was talking about who claim their kid can read Harry Potter in grades K-2.

Plenty of advanced readers can comprehend Harry Potter in 2nd grade. Not most, but plenty. And there are kids, far and few between, who can comprehend Harry Potter in K.

Not Harry Potter. Lord of the rings.

I know a kid who read and comprehended Harry Potter in K. But definitely not Lord of the rings.

Right. I asked what kid exists that can comprehend Lord of the Rings at 4? I’d love to hear this! This would be a true miracle!

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DC Teacher listed on the information submitted for AAP a DRA of 38. However, she recommended that I look for reading material at level 50-60 for home reading; screening for content of course.

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Anonymous wrote:DC Teacher listed on the information submitted for AAP a DRA of 38. However, she recommended that I look for reading material at level 50-60 for home reading; screening for content of course.

Somehow I don’t think that includes Lord of the Rings.

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I’m reading the Hobbit to my 9 y/o 4th grader and he seems to be understanding it as well as or better than me

Honestly the first chapter was a little hard for me to follow but now that I am into chapter 2 I think I got it. Sometimes it’s a little hard for me to get into books and The Hobbit was one of those

I thought if this goes well we might try the rest of the LOTR. I have never read any.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m reading the Hobbit to my 9 y/o 4th grader and he seems to be understanding it as well as or better than me

Honestly the first chapter was a little hard for me to follow but now that I am into chapter 2 I think I got it. Sometimes it’s a little hard for me to get into books and The Hobbit was one of those

I thought if this goes well we might try the rest of the LOTR. I have never read any.

Those aren’t levels 50-60. That was my point. And it’s absurd to think a 4 year old can comprehend them.

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Also, an adult reading outloud an advanced book is totally different than a child reading it on his/her own. For read alouds, you want to read several levels higher than the child’s independent reading level.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m reading the Hobbit to my 9 y/o 4th grader and he seems to be understanding it as well as or better than me

Honestly the first chapter was a little hard for me to follow but now that I am into chapter 2 I think I got it. Sometimes it’s a little hard for me to get into books and The Hobbit was one of those

I thought if this goes well we might try the rest of the LOTR. I have never read any.

Those aren’t levels 50-60. That was my point. And it’s absurd to think a 4 year old can comprehend them.

The Hobbit is listed on Scholastic as a Guided Reading Z, DRA 70 book. The Lord of the Rings is considered grades 9-12 on Scholastic, with a reading level beyond the Z/70. I would view LotR as a book that if a person is capable of reading and comprehending it, that person is at an adult reading level and could pretty much read anything.

There's no way that a 4 year old is reading and comprehending LotR.

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My child read LOTR and the Hobbit with DH before kindergarten. So 4yo. They read for an hour each night from age 24 months until age 7. She could certainly comprehend it. And she could read a few pages at a time. On her own she was reading books like charlotte’s web before kindergarten.

She’s not the most advanced child I’ve ever met! And I’ve only met a small percentage of kids in the world. So I’d expect there are kids reading much better than her. This isn’t something you advertise. She’s not even in a gifted program.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are kids who can comprehend lord of the rings at age 4 so reading Harry Potter at age 8 seems reasonable for gifted kids.

There are kids who can read the words at 4, very few kids, but comprehend? Doubtful. There are kids who can complete calculus problems at 4 but do they understand the concepts? Huge difference between sounding out the words and comprehension.

Yes. Comprehend. They exist. However there are only a few. Just like there are a few kids who will understand the concepts behind the Pythagorean theorem and completing the square at age 4.

Where do they exist? Certainly not among the parents I was talking about who claim their kid can read Harry Potter in grades K-2.

Plenty of advanced readers can comprehend Harry Potter in 2nd grade. Not most, but plenty. And there are kids, far and few between, who can comprehend Harry Potter in K.

Plenty of 2nd graders can comprehend HP in 2nd grade regardless of their reading level too. Comprehension is different from the mechanics of reading. A child who has a lower level of decoding and phoneme awareness but excellent comprehension can listen to audio books at their cognitive level- and should.

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My DH has read all the HP books to my first grader. I thought DS2 was too young to be reading them but I like to pick and choose my battles and I thought it would be too nitpicky to tell DH he should not read the books to DS2 so I let it go. Idc whether DS2 can actually comprehend the text but I don’t think he has the life experiences yet to fully appreciate to whole story. Oh well, he can read them again when he’s older if he wants!

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Anonymous wrote:My child read LOTR and the Hobbit with DH before kindergarten. So 4yo. They read for an hour each night from age 24 months until age 7. She could certainly comprehend it. And she could read a few pages at a time. On her own she was reading books like charlotte’s web before kindergarten.

She’s not the most advanced child I’ve ever met! And I’ve only met a small percentage of kids in the world. So I’d expect there are kids reading much better than her. This isn’t something you advertise. She’s not even in a gifted program.

I say this as a child whose mom read to her a lot before bed, through middle school, and I plan to read to mine as long as they’ll let me.

At one point my mom read aloud To Kill a Mockingbird me. I don’t think it was BAD that she read the book to me but to be clear while I understood the words my mom was reading, I did not fully appreciate the significance of the rape part until I read it again on my own when I was much older.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child read LOTR and the Hobbit with DH before kindergarten. So 4yo. They read for an hour each night from age 24 months until age 7. She could certainly comprehend it. And she could read a few pages at a time. On her own she was reading books like charlotte’s web before kindergarten.

She’s not the most advanced child I’ve ever met! And I’ve only met a small percentage of kids in the world. So I’d expect there are kids reading much better than her. This isn’t something you advertise. She’s not even in a gifted program.

I say this as a child whose mom read to her a lot before bed, through middle school, and I plan to read to mine as long as they’ll let me.

At one point my mom read aloud To Kill a Mockingbird me. I don’t think it was BAD that she read the book to me but to be clear while I understood the words my mom was reading, I did not fully appreciate the significance of the rape part until I read it again on my own when I was much older.

She understood enough of LOTR to enjoy it. I, like the poster above, wasn’t keen about the books. But this was DH’s thing. They read every night for about an hour together for 5 years. He had read dozens of novels to her before LOTR. He was reading chapter books to her before 2. She reread hobbit because she liked it so much.

She definitely had the patience and stamina. She also was a great reader herself. She had a good vocab. She was always ahead in reasoning. You know the old soul kids?

She read TKAM when she was 10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child read LOTR and the Hobbit with DH before kindergarten. So 4yo. They read for an hour each night from age 24 months until age 7. She could certainly comprehend it. And she could read a few pages at a time. On her own she was reading books like charlotte’s web before kindergarten.

She’s not the most advanced child I’ve ever met! And I’ve only met a small percentage of kids in the world. So I’d expect there are kids reading much better than her. This isn’t something you advertise. She’s not even in a gifted program.

I say this as a child whose mom read to her a lot before bed, through middle school, and I plan to read to mine as long as they’ll let me.

At one point my mom read aloud To Kill a Mockingbird me. I don’t think it was BAD that she read the book to me but to be clear while I understood the words my mom was reading, I did not fully appreciate the significance of the rape part until I read it again on my own when I was much older.

She understood enough of LOTR to enjoy it. I, like the poster above, wasn’t keen about the books. But this was DH’s thing. They read every night for about an hour together for 5 years. He had read dozens of novels to her before LOTR. He was reading chapter books to her before 2. She reread hobbit because she liked it so much.

She definitely had the patience and stamina. She also was a great reader herself. She had a good vocab. She was always ahead in reasoning. You know the old soul kids?

She read TKAM when she was 10.

You’re DH reading LOTR to her at age 4 is not the same thing at all as giving a 4 year old the book, having her read it independently and comprehend it on her own. You really don’t understand independent reading level.