| The world will be a much better place when Trump stops rweeting. So, keel over. |
| I can’t stand the guy and didn’t vote for him, but I’ve said on previous threads, and will say again, that I expect he’ll finish out his term. I think he’s got all the makings of a tinpot dictator, which doesn’t jive with voluntary resignation or cooperation with the legal system, and somehow those guys rarely bite the dust early, regardless of lifestyle. I have serious doubts he could win a second term and also believe he doesn’t really want to. |
There is what you know and what you can prove. Two totally different things. Unlike Trump, Pence is quiet and methodical. He doesn’t have diarrhea of the mouth or of the tweeting fingers. He doesn’t”t go on national TV and brag about obstructing Justice. Given his connection to Manafort, I am almost certain he is dirty. I also think it will be very difficult to prove at a high enough standard to impeach. Plus, Trump,was the head of the campaign, made many of the strategic decisions and accepted donations made to him. It will be harder to prove Pence is dirty, because he is the number 2. And in a campaign where Trump made almost allthe decisions, it will be hard to find an instance where Pence affirmatively acted to help Russia. And he has stayed away from controversy since taking office. I don’t think he can be re-elected. His values may be sincerely held, but they are way out of the mainstream for anyone except evangelicals. But, I also don’t think it’s realistic to think he would be impeached. |
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Pence was head of the transition and hired Flynn after being warned of his connections.
Dude is just as dirty as the rest of them |
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The question for me is not whether Trump will serve out his term - because he will. He is a fighter and will not quit. The only question is whether he will run for a second term and win reelection.
Those who keep posting about his impeachment, resignation, etc have been doing it since the inauguration. They have been wrong consistently but they keep clinging to some fantasy about Trump leaving. Of course, some of these people who rant about impeachment don't realize that it requires 67 votes in the senate to remove a president from office. In one breath they go on about Republicans lacking integrity and going along with what Trump wants and in the next breath they think 17 Republican senators will actually vote for removing Trump if he is impeached. They talk about Trump using his pardon power to remove potential legal jeopardy to those close to him and then argue for him to resign at which point he will not have the power to pardon. Totally bizarre and nuts! BTW, I did not vote for Trump but I don't allow that to influence what I think are his future prospects. |
If Dems win the house in huge number and win a majority in the Senate it won't be difficult to get Republican votes because Rumpus base will be irrelevant. |
I smell hope |
Why does any of that matter to me. Just state your opinion on an issue and move on. None of what you make up on the fly makes your opinion any more valid, anonymous. |
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I think Trump is a huge sack of sh1t but I still think it’s unlikely he will leave before 2020. He doesn’t stand a chance of re-election. Heck, I bet the Rs won’t even nominate him again. So sadly, he will continue to drive the US into the ground for 2+ more years.
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He should resign. He won't, though. |
If this is driving country into ground, I am a monkey uncle |
Sorry, friend. Take a trip down memory lane and read a few of the posts on these threads. They are not “hopeful.” In many cases, they are hateful and desperate. |
| If the Dems take the House and the Rs keep the Senate what will it mean for legislation? I too don't think Trump is going anywhere till at least 2020, but what will he be able to do if this scenario occurs? |
That does explain a lot...
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You keep dreaming. |