The Bachelorette Makes Her Choice ...

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That dress was really bad. I still can't get over that she left her eyelashes on the floor, Peter refused to pick them up, and she talks to her ring like it's a person now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She set up Peter for not being a future Bachelor with the "...this is not for you..." talk. Eric came across very well-- kind and gracious-- in his interview.

I agree! I had liked her all season until this moment. Why try to ruin his chances? It's just unnecessary. I would have liked her to be more honest and humane, like she was with Eric & Kenny: I felt a love for you at one point. I meant what I said. It was very painful that we couldn't get on the same page but looking back, I can see how we just weren't meant to be.

If she supposedly was never in love with him, like she's claiming in interviews, then why be so angry with him now?

I think I would be salty af myself. I think it was the combination of being gaslighted making her the crazy/unreasonable one plus the low-key shade Peter threw at Bryan on the show and the after the show IG likes for negative comments towards Bryan and some other things plus ABC doing this new format where she wouldn't have a chance to compose herself or to really celebrate the engagement because she has to react in real near time watching of the breakup. But the kicker for me was the breakup. The "have a mediocre life" and "you are giving everything up for a proposal/ring" and "I'll sacrifice to marry you". I really, really hope they didn't have sex in the FS because in the moment, he was cruel and about making her feel unworthy of what every other Bachelorette has gotten and ridiculous for even wanting it. Oh abd yeah right they are supposed to go on every single talk show after the Bachelottee is over if she picked him with no proposal after sending home all these other guys including Bryan that was over the top into her and ready to propose and she is selling his story of it being too soon and he "only wants to propose once". Not only would the pressure have been insane of "so when is he going to propose" but she doesn't know if it was really about him not being ready even 5 years from now or it being that he really didn't feel she was the one and instead of being up front keeps stringing her along. He wanted her to play "the good wife" that stands by her man at the press conference after he is caught "hiking the Appalachian trails" and she has to defend him and look like she is either naive, a sucker, or even worse it's her fault he strayed. And bottom line was supposed to eat crap in front of the cameras and make it seem like it tastes good because of what he wants.

I digress, but AFTER he was crystal clear he DID NOT want to marry her anytime soon, he said "can you tell me you know I'm the one you will choose". I think I screamed, or at least thought, Rachel nooooo don't fall for that. Because you know, he would have dragged her and crapped all over Bryan (cause he hated Bryan) if she said yes. Honestly, if he wasn't going to propose, and it was a sacrifice, why does it matter? If it was really about him being head over heels and needing true reassurance she would pick him so he wouldn't propose for naught and waste his one proposal he ever wants to make in his life time, he could have done that in the Fantasy Suites without the cameras. At this point, let the woman leave with a little bit of dignity and be able to move on. And then he wanted to talk to her the next day About what Peter I ask? Again, if Rachel had met with him it would have been another mind game. Then the narrative would have been even with a proposal from Bryan she is meeting with me hoping I want to marry her now.

What I really hate is that Rachel was up front from day one she wanted a husband and was ready to get married. If it was simply about a ring, Bryan, Dean, and Eric all said they were willing to propose. Peter all of a sudden in Geneva was like it's crazy to fall in love in 9 weeks and I only want to make one proposal. Home boy could have told Rachel that date one that he was looking to find a girlfriend on the Bachelorette and wasn't trying to wife up anyone in the near term and I would have hoped she would have given him the boot early on. But it's I think I may not be ready, I need more time, but what we have is so good and if I find I don't feel I can get there in the next few weeks, I'll leave ...to I'm falling in love with you right before we go in to meet your parents because gosh gee whiz I would hate for you to not know where I stand and not have reassurances, to I can picture our children, let's name our puppy, I can see us married doing New York Times crossroad puzzles together but need just a little more time. To there is no way I can propose to anyone in only 9 weeks, you are just about the ring, look at everything you are throwing away but I'll "sacrifice" if that will make you happy. I mean, Peter is fine and when he is charming Peter like on GMA, I forget all about the cruel make it seem like you are the crazy one, emotionally unavailable Peter. I absolutely loved what Bryan said when he was asked what he thought seeing the breakup and he said something along the lines of basically being ready to propose and it was tough seeing her go thru this with someone that needing her crying in order to feel validated. I'm not saying 100% correctly but it was true. IMHO Bryan was willing to say things first and put it out there not knowing for sure if he would be rejected. While Peter wanted to see Rachel upset and all emotional over him to tell him she's all-in so that he would feel confident enough to maybe consider sacrificing to marry her even though a proposal so quickly is not reasonable ... said the other contestant on the same show/season and possible future lead in the Bachelor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That dress was really bad. I still can't get over that she left her eyelashes on the floor, Peter refused to pick them up, and she talks to her ring like it's a person now.

The side slit and threads holding it together - was that the design or worry about a wardrobe malfunction?

I took the eyelash comment as passive aggressive. Like after she said how she cried her eyelashes off, he chimed in a reminder like yes, she was so upset at losing me and tossing away what we had. I had to look at the reminder of her bad decision the next two days and I'd be darned if I picked them up.

If I had a 100K ring from a guy that was handsome like Bryan, and I'm betting is good about focusing that attention behind closed doors - I'd be acting a fool myself. My ring was not nearly as much bling and my DH jokes that he isn't sure if I even said yes because I was like "oh my gosh, oh my gosh can I put on the ring".

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That dress was really bad. I still can't get over that she left her eyelashes on the floor, Peter refused to pick them up, and she talks to her ring like it's a person now.

The side slit and threads holding it together - was that the design or worry about a wardrobe malfunction?

I took the eyelash comment as passive aggressive. Like after she said how she cried her eyelashes off, he chimed in a reminder like yes, she was so upset at losing me and tossing away what we had. I had to look at the reminder of her bad decision the next two days and I'd be darned if I picked them up.

If I had a 100K ring from a guy that was handsome like Bryan, and I'm betting is good about focusing that attention behind closed doors - I'd be acting a fool myself. My ring was not nearly as much bling and my DH jokes that he isn't sure if I even said yes because I was like "oh my gosh, oh my gosh can I put on the ring".

Yes, she was definitely very excited about the diamond being large! (Hopefully, Bryan filled her in on the insurance fraud charges against him before he put it on her finger. Does anyone know how that case was resolved?)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She set up Peter for not being a future Bachelor with the "...this is not for you..." talk. Eric came across very well-- kind and gracious-- in his interview.

I agree! I had liked her all season until this moment. Why try to ruin his chances? It's just unnecessary. I would have liked her to be more honest and humane, like she was with Eric & Kenny: I felt a love for you at one point. I meant what I said. It was very painful that we couldn't get on the same page but looking back, I can see how we just weren't meant to be.

If she supposedly was never in love with him, like she's claiming in interviews, then why be so angry with him now?

I think I would be salty af myself. I think it was the combination of being gaslighted making her the crazy/unreasonable one plus the low-key shade Peter threw at Bryan on the show and the after the show IG likes for negative comments towards Bryan and some other things plus ABC doing this new format where she wouldn't have a chance to compose herself or to really celebrate the engagement because she has to react in real near time watching of the breakup. But the kicker for me was the breakup. The "have a mediocre life" and "you are giving everything up for a proposal/ring" and "I'll sacrifice to marry you". I really, really hope they didn't have sex in the FS because in the moment, he was cruel and about making her feel unworthy of what every other Bachelorette has gotten and ridiculous for even wanting it. Oh abd yeah right they are supposed to go on every single talk show after the Bachelottee is over if she picked him with no proposal after sending home all these other guys including Bryan that was over the top into her and ready to propose and she is selling his story of it being too soon and he "only wants to propose once". Not only would the pressure have been insane of "so when is he going to propose" but she doesn't know if it was really about him not being ready even 5 years from now or it being that he really didn't feel she was the one and instead of being up front keeps stringing her along. He wanted her to play "the good wife" that stands by her man at the press conference after he is caught "hiking the Appalachian trails" and she has to defend him and look like she is either naive, a sucker, or even worse it's her fault he strayed. And bottom line was supposed to eat crap in front of the cameras and make it seem like it tastes good because of what he wants.

I digress, but AFTER he was crystal clear he DID NOT want to marry her anytime soon, he said "can you tell me you know I'm the one you will choose". I think I screamed, or at least thought, Rachel nooooo don't fall for that. Because you know, he would have dragged her and crapped all over Bryan (cause he hated Bryan) if she said yes. Honestly, if he wasn't going to propose, and it was a sacrifice, why does it matter? If it was really about him being head over heels and needing true reassurance she would pick him so he wouldn't propose for naught and waste his one proposal he ever wants to make in his life time, he could have done that in the Fantasy Suites without the cameras. At this point, let the woman leave with a little bit of dignity and be able to move on. And then he wanted to talk to her the next day About what Peter I ask? Again, if Rachel had met with him it would have been another mind game. Then the narrative would have been even with a proposal from Bryan she is meeting with me hoping I want to marry her now.

What I really hate is that Rachel was up front from day one she wanted a husband and was ready to get married. If it was simply about a ring, Bryan, Dean, and Eric all said they were willing to propose. Peter all of a sudden in Geneva was like it's crazy to fall in love in 9 weeks and I only want to make one proposal. Home boy could have told Rachel that date one that he was looking to find a girlfriend on the Bachelorette and wasn't trying to wife up anyone in the near term and I would have hoped she would have given him the boot early on. But it's I think I may not be ready, I need more time, but what we have is so good and if I find I don't feel I can get there in the next few weeks, I'll leave ...to I'm falling in love with you right before we go in to meet your parents because gosh gee whiz I would hate for you to not know where I stand and not have reassurances, to I can picture our children, let's name our puppy, I can see us married doing New York Times crossroad puzzles together but need just a little more time. To there is no way I can propose to anyone in only 9 weeks, you are just about the ring, look at everything you are throwing away but I'll "sacrifice" if that will make you happy. I mean, Peter is fine and when he is charming Peter like on GMA, I forget all about the cruel make it seem like you are the crazy one, emotionally unavailable Peter. I absolutely loved what Bryan said when he was asked what he thought seeing the breakup and he said something along the lines of basically being ready to propose and it was tough seeing her go thru this with someone that needing her crying in order to feel validated. I'm not saying 100% correctly but it was true. IMHO Bryan was willing to say things first and put it out there not knowing for sure if he would be rejected. While Peter wanted to see Rachel upset and all emotional over him to tell him she's all-in so that he would feel confident enough to maybe consider sacrificing to marry her even though a proposal so quickly is not reasonable ... said the other contestant on the same show/season and possible future lead in the Bachelor.

All. Of. This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That dress was really bad. I still can't get over that she left her eyelashes on the floor, Peter refused to pick them up, and she talks to her ring like it's a person now.

The side slit and threads holding it together - was that the design or worry about a wardrobe malfunction?

I took the eyelash comment as passive aggressive. Like after she said how she cried her eyelashes off, he chimed in a reminder like yes, she was so upset at losing me and tossing away what we had. I had to look at the reminder of her bad decision the next two days and I'd be darned if I picked them up.

If I had a 100K ring from a guy that was handsome like Bryan, and I'm betting is good about focusing that attention behind closed doors - I'd be acting a fool myself. My ring was not nearly as much bling and my DH jokes that he isn't sure if I even said yes because I was like "oh my gosh, oh my gosh can I put on the ring".

Yes, she was definitely very excited about the diamond being large! (Hopefully, Bryan filled her in on the insurance fraud charges against him before he put it on her finger. Does anyone know how that case was resolved?)

What fraud charges? What's his full name and I'll look it up and report back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That dress was really bad. I still can't get over that she left her eyelashes on the floor, Peter refused to pick them up, and she talks to her ring like it's a person now.

The side slit and threads holding it together - was that the design or worry about a wardrobe malfunction?

I took the eyelash comment as passive aggressive. Like after she said how she cried her eyelashes off, he chimed in a reminder like yes, she was so upset at losing me and tossing away what we had. I had to look at the reminder of her bad decision the next two days and I'd be darned if I picked them up.

If I had a 100K ring from a guy that was handsome like Bryan, and I'm betting is good about focusing that attention behind closed doors - I'd be acting a fool myself. My ring was not nearly as much bling and my DH jokes that he isn't sure if I even said yes because I was like "oh my gosh, oh my gosh can I put on the ring".

Yes, she was definitely very excited about the diamond being large! (Hopefully, Bryan filled her in on the insurance fraud charges against him before he put it on her finger. Does anyone know how that case was resolved?)

What fraud charges? What's his full name and I'll look it up and report back.

Oh cool! I believe it's Bryan Abasolo.

[Anonymous]

Omg the res dress with a coat of arms of black beads and that proposal dress! both awful.

[Anonymous]

ALSO, I'm so over this season and waiting for the BIP trainwreck to start.

[Anonymous]

Some people can't fully go all in when there is another person she was sucking face with the whole time. So I can't really blame Peter. It would be interesting if he could go all the way and propose if he were the bachelor. I don't think he was intentionally playing mind games with her. She should have gotten rid of him sooner instead of dragging him along to the end if she really wanted that proposal from Bryan. On GMA you could tell she and Bryan barely know each other. She thinks he like dominoes. I'm ready for BIP.

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What I didn't like about their break up conversation was that she was clearly asking him to propose, the day before getting engaged to Bryan. Do you remember Chris Soules coming to Becca the night before with "why don't you love me?" Why don't you love me, why won't you propose to me - these are not the things to say the night before you get engaged to some one else. Plenty of other leads finish out their seasons without pleading with the runner up. This begging, pleading stuff is just not the right thing to do when you "know" who you're going to pick. Piss on Peter all you like, but no lead should behave this way when their mind is already made up.

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Anonymous wrote:That dress was really bad. I still can't get over that she left her eyelashes on the floor, Peter refused to pick them up, and she talks to her ring like it's a person now.

The side slit and threads holding it together - was that the design or worry about a wardrobe malfunction?

I took the eyelash comment as passive aggressive. Like after she said how she cried her eyelashes off, he chimed in a reminder like yes, she was so upset at losing me and tossing away what we had. I had to look at the reminder of her bad decision the next two days and I'd be darned if I picked them up.

If I had a 100K ring from a guy that was handsome like Bryan, and I'm betting is good about focusing that attention behind closed doors - I'd be acting a fool myself. My ring was not nearly as much bling and my DH jokes that he isn't sure if I even said yes because I was like "oh my gosh, oh my gosh can I put on the ring".

Yes, she was definitely very excited about the diamond being large! (Hopefully, Bryan filled her in on the insurance fraud charges against him before he put it on her finger. Does anyone know how that case was resolved?)

What fraud charges? What's his full name and I'll look it up and report back.

Just looked at the docket and read the complaint. Basically the complaint (filed in March 2016) alleged insurance fraud claims against him and the companies he owns and other owners for submitting claims for insurance payments for chiropractic services that were either uneccesary or never performed. The case settled in March of this year. Apparently he had previously been charged in an administrative proceeding before the FL board of chiropractic whatever for similar issues - one example provided was that he prescribed inappropriate treatments for a 3 year old that was in a car accident (that involved things like using a rowing machine, etc). Apparently he also owns an MRI company and the complaint alleged that he would refer people to get MRIs when it wasn't necessary so he could submit insurance claims.

Oh cool! I believe it's Bryan Abasolo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That dress was really bad. I still can't get over that she left her eyelashes on the floor, Peter refused to pick them up, and she talks to her ring like it's a person now.

The side slit and threads holding it together - was that the design or worry about a wardrobe malfunction?

I took the eyelash comment as passive aggressive. Like after she said how she cried her eyelashes off, he chimed in a reminder like yes, she was so upset at losing me and tossing away what we had. I had to look at the reminder of her bad decision the next two days and I'd be darned if I picked them up.

If I had a 100K ring from a guy that was handsome like Bryan, and I'm betting is good about focusing that attention behind closed doors - I'd be acting a fool myself. My ring was not nearly as much bling and my DH jokes that he isn't sure if I even said yes because I was like "oh my gosh, oh my gosh can I put on the ring".

Yes, she was definitely very excited about the diamond being large! (Hopefully, Bryan filled her in on the insurance fraud charges against him before he put it on her finger. Does anyone know how that case was resolved?)

What fraud charges? What's his full name and I'll look it up and report back.

Just looked at the docket and read the complaint. Basically the complaint (filed in March 2016) alleged insurance fraud claims against him and the companies he owns and other owners for submitting claims for insurance payments for chiropractic services that were either uneccesary or never performed. The case settled in March of this year. Apparently he had previously been charged in an administrative proceeding before the FL board of chiropractic whatever for similar issues - one example provided was that he prescribed inappropriate treatments for a 3 year old that was in a car accident (that involved things like using a rowing machine, etc). Apparently he also owns an MRI company and the complaint alleged that he would refer people to get MRIs when it wasn't necessary so he could submit insurance claims.

Oh cool! I believe it's Bryan Abasolo.

Interesting. Thanks!

Bryan seems like such a scammer. The fact that he is trying to make money by selling self-promoting tote bags and phone covers is just icky. He's so sleazy that he makes me think less of Rachel.

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Anonymous wrote:That dress was really bad. I still can't get over that she left her eyelashes on the floor, Peter refused to pick them up, and she talks to her ring like it's a person now.

The side slit and threads holding it together - was that the design or worry about a wardrobe malfunction?

I took the eyelash comment as passive aggressive. Like after she said how she cried her eyelashes off, he chimed in a reminder like yes, she was so upset at losing me and tossing away what we had. I had to look at the reminder of her bad decision the next two days and I'd be darned if I picked them up.

If I had a 100K ring from a guy that was handsome like Bryan, and I'm betting is good about focusing that attention behind closed doors - I'd be acting a fool myself. My ring was not nearly as much bling and my DH jokes that he isn't sure if I even said yes because I was like "oh my gosh, oh my gosh can I put on the ring".

Yes, she was definitely very excited about the diamond being large! (Hopefully, Bryan filled her in on the insurance fraud charges against him before he put it on her finger. Does anyone know how that case was resolved?)

What fraud charges? What's his full name and I'll look it up and report back.

My question though is how unusual is this for a licensed practitioner? Don't most of them end up on the receiving end of a law suit at some point in their career?

Just looked at the docket and read the complaint. Basically the complaint (filed in March 2016) alleged insurance fraud claims against him and the companies he owns and other owners for submitting claims for insurance payments for chiropractic services that were either uneccesary or never performed. The case settled in March of this year. Apparently he had previously been charged in an administrative proceeding before the FL board of chiropractic whatever for similar issues - one example provided was that he prescribed inappropriate treatments for a 3 year old that was in a car accident (that involved things like using a rowing machine, etc). Apparently he also owns an MRI company and the complaint alleged that he would refer people to get MRIs when it wasn't necessary so he could submit insurance claims.

Oh cool! I believe it's Bryan Abasolo.

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Anonymous wrote:That dress was really bad. I still can't get over that she left her eyelashes on the floor, Peter refused to pick them up, and she talks to her ring like it's a person now.

The side slit and threads holding it together - was that the design or worry about a wardrobe malfunction?

I took the eyelash comment as passive aggressive. Like after she said how she cried her eyelashes off, he chimed in a reminder like yes, she was so upset at losing me and tossing away what we had. I had to look at the reminder of her bad decision the next two days and I'd be darned if I picked them up.

If I had a 100K ring from a guy that was handsome like Bryan, and I'm betting is good about focusing that attention behind closed doors - I'd be acting a fool myself. My ring was not nearly as much bling and my DH jokes that he isn't sure if I even said yes because I was like "oh my gosh, oh my gosh can I put on the ring".

Yes, she was definitely very excited about the diamond being large! (Hopefully, Bryan filled her in on the insurance fraud charges against him before he put it on her finger. Does anyone know how that case was resolved?)

What fraud charges? What's his full name and I'll look it up and report back.

Just looked at the docket and read the complaint. Basically the complaint (filed in March 2016) alleged insurance fraud claims against him and the companies he owns and other owners for submitting claims for insurance payments for chiropractic services that were either uneccesary or never performed. The case settled in March of this year. Apparently he had previously been charged in an administrative proceeding before the FL board of chiropractic whatever for similar issues - one example provided was that he prescribed inappropriate treatments for a 3 year old that was in a car accident (that involved things like using a rowing machine, etc). Apparently he also owns an MRI company and the complaint alleged that he would refer people to get MRIs when it wasn't necessary so he could submit insurance claims.

Oh cool! I believe it's Bryan Abasolo.

Interesting. Thanks!

Bryan seems like such a scammer. The fact that he is trying to make money by selling self-promoting tote bags and phone covers is just icky. He's so sleazy that he makes me think less of Rachel.

Totally agree.