SATC: what is it that Big found hard to handle about Carrie?

[Anonymous]

Trey was so dull and stuffy! I'll give you nice, though. Does anyone remember when Big was first introduced on the show and Samantha said, "They say he's the next Donald Trump."

[Anonymous]

Candace Bushnell told New York Magazine in 2004, "He was one of those New York guys with a big personality — you just notice him as soon as he walks in the room," and "I called him Mr. Big because he was like a big man on campus." The nickname "Big" refers to his status as a "major tycoon, major dreamboat, and majorly out of [Carrie's] league".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Big fancied himself a Trey. Natasha was more like a Charlotte. Carrie was crass, unrefined and label obsessed somewhat of a gold digger. Her most serious relationships shown were with men of means Aiden, Big and Barishnykov all men who could keep her in her Manolos. Re-watching years later in season 1 Big made it clear to Carrie that he liked her in a fun, amusing way but was not in the mood to wife her or anyone else at that time. She did not want to hear it. He was #goals for her and she was pissed that he did not feel the same way. That episode where she showed up for church with his mom in a costume-y church lady outfit was cringe-worthy.
I still say in the end he married her because the fans wanted a happy ending, but in his mind after a major health scare, two failed marriages and getting up there in years (wasn't he was supposed to be 10+ years older than she was) he was tired of the chase and knew she would never leave him. Carrie was Aiden's fantasy. He was the simple guy who fell for a label-obsessed aging party girl about town. In reality she would have ended it at some point because he a doormat when it came to her. That episode where she invited Big up to his cabin, the ex with whom she cheated first time around? Oh hellz no!!! SATC 3 plot: Big gets a clean bill of health and cheats with the new 20-something VP at his company.

Honestly, I was really hoping Carrie would choose to stay single in the finale, or at least decide to keep looking for the right man for her. I heard that was one of the alternate endings shot and I wished the show had used that one. Relationships like Big and Carrie's never end with the guy finally committing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It always bothered me that the 4 women had minimal relationship with any family

Carrie, in particular, was a product of divorce which often impacts a woman's self esteem and perception of men. I thought she had a daddy issue and always wanted Big to rescue her and take care of her.

Yes, this is why I hated that they totally rewrote her history in The Carrie Diaries by giving her a dad who was very present in her life as a teenager. I think a lot of her adult behavior IRT men & relationships can be traced back to her father abandoning her when she was a young child (a fact that is mentioned in the orginal series but erased in the prequel).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Candace Bushnell told New York Magazine in 2004, "He was one of those New York guys with a big personality — you just notice him as soon as he walks in the room," and "I called him Mr. Big because he was like a big man on campus." The nickname "Big" refers to his status as a "major tycoon, major dreamboat, and majorly out of [Carrie's] league".

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big fancied himself a Trey. Natasha was more like a Charlotte. Carrie was crass, unrefined and label obsessed somewhat of a gold digger. Her most serious relationships shown were with men of means Aiden, Big and Barishnykov all men who could keep her in her Manolos. Re-watching years later in season 1 Big made it clear to Carrie that he liked her in a fun, amusing way but was not in the mood to wife her or anyone else at that time. She did not want to hear it. He was #goals for her and she was pissed that he did not feel the same way. That episode where she showed up for church with his mom in a costume-y church lady outfit was cringe-worthy.
I still say in the end he married her because the fans wanted a happy ending, but in his mind after a major health scare, two failed marriages and getting up there in years (wasn't he was supposed to be 10+ years older than she was) he was tired of the chase and knew she would never leave him. Carrie was Aiden's fantasy. He was the simple guy who fell for a label-obsessed aging party girl about town. In reality she would have ended it at some point because he a doormat when it came to her. That episode where she invited Big up to his cabin, the ex with whom she cheated first time around? Oh hellz no!!! SATC 3 plot: Big gets a clean bill of health and cheats with the new 20-something VP at his company.

Honestly, I was really hoping Carrie would choose to stay single in the finale, or at least decide to keep looking for the right man for her. I heard that was one of the alternate endings shot and I wished the show had used that one. Relationships like Big and Carrie's never end with the guy finally committing.

You're right. Candace Bushnell and the real Mr. Big didn't marry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trey was so dull and stuffy! I'll give you nice, though. Does anyone remember when Big was first introduced on the show and Samantha said, "They say he's the next Donald Trump."

Yes! His character was a little like Trump when single...so I guess the writers had Trump in mind to some extent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big fancied himself a Trey. Natasha was more like a Charlotte. Carrie was crass, unrefined and label obsessed somewhat of a gold digger. Her most serious relationships shown were with men of means Aiden, Big and Barishnykov all men who could keep her in her Manolos. Re-watching years later in season 1 Big made it clear to Carrie that he liked her in a fun, amusing way but was not in the mood to wife her or anyone else at that time. She did not want to hear it. He was #goals for her and she was pissed that he did not feel the same way. That episode where she showed up for church with his mom in a costume-y church lady outfit was cringe-worthy.
I still say in the end he married her because the fans wanted a happy ending, but in his mind after a major health scare, two failed marriages and getting up there in years (wasn't he was supposed to be 10+ years older than she was) he was tired of the chase and knew she would never leave him. Carrie was Aiden's fantasy. He was the simple guy who fell for a label-obsessed aging party girl about town. In reality she would have ended it at some point because he a doormat when it came to her. That episode where she invited Big up to his cabin, the ex with whom she cheated first time around? Oh hellz no!!! SATC 3 plot: Big gets a clean bill of health and cheats with the new 20-something VP at his company.

Honestly, I was really hoping Carrie would choose to stay single in the finale, or at least decide to keep looking for the right man for her. I heard that was one of the alternate endings shot and I wished the show had used that one. Relationships like Big and Carrie's never end with the guy finally committing.

The movie was for the fans. Not the fans that are here: women who enjoyed the show and dissected it and analyzed it. No, it was for the fans who loved the hot men, shoes, glitzy, etc. And it worked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big fancied himself a Trey. Natasha was more like a Charlotte. Carrie was crass, unrefined and label obsessed somewhat of a gold digger. Her most serious relationships shown were with men of means Aiden, Big and Barishnykov all men who could keep her in her Manolos. Re-watching years later in season 1 Big made it clear to Carrie that he liked her in a fun, amusing way but was not in the mood to wife her or anyone else at that time. She did not want to hear it. He was #goals for her and she was pissed that he did not feel the same way. That episode where she showed up for church with his mom in a costume-y church lady outfit was cringe-worthy.
I still say in the end he married her because the fans wanted a happy ending, but in his mind after a major health scare, two failed marriages and getting up there in years (wasn't he was supposed to be 10+ years older than she was) he was tired of the chase and knew she would never leave him. Carrie was Aiden's fantasy. He was the simple guy who fell for a label-obsessed aging party girl about town. In reality she would have ended it at some point because he a doormat when it came to her. That episode where she invited Big up to his cabin, the ex with whom she cheated first time around? Oh hellz no!!! SATC 3 plot: Big gets a clean bill of health and cheats with the new 20-something VP at his company.

Honestly, I was really hoping Carrie would choose to stay single in the finale, or at least decide to keep looking for the right man for her. I heard that was one of the alternate endings shot and I wished the show had used that one. Relationships like Big and Carrie's never end with the guy finally committing.

The movie was for the fans. Not the fans that are here: women who enjoyed the show and dissected it and analyzed it. No, it was for the fans who loved the hot men, shoes, glitzy, etc. And it worked.

Seriously. And whomever is credited with editing those movies should be ashamed. They were both an hour too long and filled with unnecessary crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trey is old money wealthy. His family is wealthy, probably from multiple generations of wealth. He went to top schools and got a nice paying job as a doctor.

Big is new money wealthy. He didn't come from wealth (or only modestly wealthy), but went to school and got a very high paying job in NYC.

It's pretty apparent that they were differentiating between old and new money with these two characters.

Trey and Char are both old money as reflected in their priorities and mannerisms.

Carrie is a LMC trashy gold digger who wouldn't know class if it hit her in the face. Her obsession with name brand items; lack of financial sense; lewd behavior; socialing in dirty clubs and lust for rich men signify her poor tacky taste. She thinks spending money you do not have on name brand goods you do not need is the epitome of elegance and Mr Big, a gauche NYC Wall Street striver is the be all of class and dignity.

I think Big married Natasha because he, like Carrie, is a social climber who needed to marry into class in order to fit in and attain social legitimacy.He's a smart guy, he knows the kind of women rich men marry. It is his social climbing ways that made him run away from a commitment to carry for almost a decdsfe. As much as he enjoyed their trsyts and her company, for a long time her status as the sex columisny splashed across the side of the bus was a serious deal breaker for him.

He and Carrie are alike; they are both outsiders who came to NYC in search for glamour and riches. They have these fantasies of "old New York" based on movies and music and each try to act like how they think elegant New Yorkers should act like. Annoying Strivers. He only settled for Carrie when he realized his time was running out and that he had aged out of the competitive marriage market he had tentatively dipped his toes in earlier. They are sort of made for each other.

I don't think of Carrie as LMC or brand-obsessed. Fashion obsessed, yes. She was well read, a writer, and completed the NYT crossword puzzles... Also don't think Big was a NYC outsider. The show kept him a mystery, but we know he went to an Episcopalian church with his mother in a fancy neighborhood, so I think we know he came from money. Also, there was one episode where he runs into old friends (I think when he fails to introduce Carrie), and they talk about backpacking or skiing across Europe when younger. I picture him as a NYC prep school or boarding school type and Princeton grad.

[Anonymous]

Carrie was so dumb, for being in their 30s/40s she and Big had such an immature relationship. The time I most wanted to reach through the screen and shake her was the episode where Big freaked out about her leaving personal items at his place. Even my high school boyfriend let me leave a hairbrush at his parents' house. It should have been such a wake up call for her, textbook case of He's Just Not That Into You.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Carrie was so dumb, for being in their 30s/40s she and Big had such an immature relationship. The time I most wanted to reach through the screen and shake her was the episode where Big freaked out about her leaving personal items at his place. Even my high school boyfriend let me leave a hairbrush at his parents' house. It should have been such a wake up call for her, textbook case of He's Just Not That Into You.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trey is old money wealthy. His family is wealthy, probably from multiple generations of wealth. He went to top schools and got a nice paying job as a doctor.

Big is new money wealthy. He didn't come from wealth (or only modestly wealthy), but went to school and got a very high paying job in NYC.

It's pretty apparent that they were differentiating between old and new money with these two characters.

Trey and Char are both old money as reflected in their priorities and mannerisms.

Carrie is a LMC trashy gold digger who wouldn't know class if it hit her in the face. Her obsession with name brand items; lack of financial sense; lewd behavior; socialing in dirty clubs and lust for rich men signify her poor tacky taste. She thinks spending money you do not have on name brand goods you do not need is the epitome of elegance and Mr Big, a gauche NYC Wall Street striver is the be all of class and dignity.

I think Big married Natasha because he, like Carrie, is a social climber who needed to marry into class in order to fit in and attain social legitimacy.He's a smart guy, he knows the kind of women rich men marry. It is his social climbing ways that made him run away from a commitment to carry for almost a decdsfe. As much as he enjoyed their trsyts and her company, for a long time her status as the sex columisny splashed across the side of the bus was a serious deal breaker for him.

He and Carrie are alike; they are both outsiders who came to NYC in search for glamour and riches. They have these fantasies of "old New York" based on movies and music and each try to act like how they think elegant New Yorkers should act like. Annoying Strivers. He only settled for Carrie when he realized his time was running out and that he had aged out of the competitive marriage market he had tentatively dipped his toes in earlier. They are sort of made for each other.

I don't think of Carrie as LMC or brand-obsessed. Fashion obsessed, yes. She was well read, a writer, and completed the NYT crossword puzzles... Also don't think Big was a NYC outsider. The show kept him a mystery, but we know he went to an Episcopalian church with his mother in a fancy neighborhood, so I think we know he came from money. Also, there was one episode where he runs into old friends (I think when he fails to introduce Carrie), and they talk about backpacking or skiing across Europe when younger. I picture him as a NYC prep school or boarding school type and Princeton grad.

No way. He's NJ commuter town who went into finance and thinks his towncar is amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carrie was so dumb, for being in their 30s/40s she and Big had such an immature relationship. The time I most wanted to reach through the screen and shake her was the episode where Big freaked out about her leaving personal items at his place. Even my high school boyfriend let me leave a hairbrush at his parents' house. It should have been such a wake up call for her, textbook case of He's Just Not That Into You.

+1

I don't know. I had a 30-something boyfriend who freaked out when I brought a hairdryer over. Those kind of guys are out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carrie was so dumb, for being in their 30s/40s she and Big had such an immature relationship. The time I most wanted to reach through the screen and shake her was the episode where Big freaked out about her leaving personal items at his place. Even my high school boyfriend let me leave a hairbrush at his parents' house. It should have been such a wake up call for her, textbook case of He's Just Not That Into You.

+1

I don't know. I had a 30-something boyfriend who freaked out when I brought a hairdryer over. Those kind of guys are out there.

Was he married?