Racism / Classism on DCurbanmom trolls or true?

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Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I looked. I don't want my kid to be a minority by my choice.

Fine then tell that to DCPS: "You need to create more options for my "advanced learner" because I pay taxes dammit! But not Banneker, too many black kids."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I looked. I don't want my kid to be a minority by my choice.

Okay?

(I do hope you realize that in and of itself is the definition of white privlidge)

Call it whatever. I would not send my kid to a private school on a scholarship either for the same reason. I am not a fighter, not a revolutionary, not a world changer. I also believe in capitalism and dislike socialism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I looked. I don't want my kid to be a minority by my choice.

Fine then tell that to DCPS: "You need to create more options for my "advanced learner" because I pay taxes dammit! But not Banneker, too many black kids."

lol right. Which proves that people here are actually racist and it's just not trolls.

I don't even know how this thread title is even a question of course people here are racist. They may not use racial slurs in public and they may vote blue but they refuse to even look at Banneker high school because their child would *gasp* be the minority. And they are *shocked* that van ness isn't title one because isn't that EOTP and don't poor people live there!?!?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I looked. I don't want my kid to be a minority by my choice.

Okay?

(I do hope you realize that in and of itself is the definition of white privlidge)

Call it whatever. I would not send my kid to a private school on a scholarship either for the same reason. I am not a fighter, not a revolutionary, not a world changer. I also believe in capitalism and dislike socialism.

Okay well then leave it up to the rest of everyone to make the world a better place for you and yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I looked. I don't want my kid to be a minority by my choice.

Okay?

(I do hope you realize that in and of itself is the definition of white privlidge)

Call it whatever. I would not send my kid to a private school on a scholarship either for the same reason. I am not a fighter, not a revolutionary, not a world changer. I also believe in capitalism and dislike socialism.

Well I'm glad you can admit that you like and use the privlidge that you were born with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I truly do wish that this wasn't an anonymous website. I wish there were screen names so I could put a name with a racist "face". Because this place is full of microagressions. And then fragile feelings when called out on said microaggressions.

As a white woman, it's embarrassing.

I have mixed feelings about what's expressed on DCUM. As a black mom, I found it depressing - literally - to find so much classism and racism on display. The very idea that just showing up makes my kid an undesirable problem causes psychic damage I can't even describe.

But I can't deal with a reality I don't know about so I've come to appreciate anonymous opinions I've read here over the years. And the reality is, while we all have considerations for race and class when choosing schools and neighborhoods, I have to consider an entirely different set of factors from those who rely on SES.

Someone in a post upthread mentioned the way some parents treat their kids. For me, that's actually one of the top three factors I consider in thinking about schools and where to live. People who put greater weight on superficialities like race and income are less likely to weigh intangibles that matter more for success.

I've got enough examples among family and friends to know that superficial judgment happens at every SES level with people from every cultural background, so I do my best to avoid it myself. But for my own well-being and that of my family, I also try to avoid people and places where it's the most commonly used barometer.

And I feel pretty fortunate we have options. A lot of people - at all SES strata - just don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I looked. I don't want my kid to be a minority by my choice.

Okay?

(I do hope you realize that in and of itself is the definition of white privlidge)

Call it whatever. I would not send my kid to a private school on a scholarship either for the same reason. I am not a fighter, not a revolutionary, not a world changer. I also believe in capitalism and dislike socialism.

Well I'm glad you can admit that you like and use the privlidge that you were born with.

I didn't know blue collar is considered privilege now, but I will take it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I looked. I don't want my kid to be a minority by my choice.

Okay?

(I do hope you realize that in and of itself is the definition of white privlidge)

Call it whatever. I would not send my kid to a private school on a scholarship either for the same reason. I am not a fighter, not a revolutionary, not a world changer. I also believe in capitalism and dislike socialism.

Okay well then leave it up to the rest of everyone to make the world a better place for you and yours.

We might have different views on what makes the world a better place. We

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for everyone, but here is my view: My primary objective is my children; I will do whatever I can to make sure they get a good education. That means I want them at a well-run school that's not overcrowded. That means I want them with capable teachers who are focused on teaching all the students, and not just trying to drag the most unprepared students up to the bare minimum of "proficient." That means I want my children surrounded by other kids who want to learn and are not being disruptive. That means I want them in a reasonably safe neighborhood, preferably close to home. Those are my basic criteria; everything else is icing on the cake for me. I would be even more happy if my children were in a school with loads of racial and class diversity - even a school where my child is a distinct racial and class minority - but only if my basic criteria are met.

That's what I want in a school for my children. I suspect most parents - regardless of race or class - want something similar. If you think any of that makes me racist or classist, then you need to explain how.

that's fine. but don't come posting on here about how your white kid can't possibly mix with the "project kids" at Jefferson because they bring the SES average down. Just go self-segregate and accept that you don't believe in diversity.

Go to hell. You don't know me or my family, so don't tell me what I do or don't believe. If you want to explain why you think it's wrong to want my kids at good schools, I'm all ears. But if you just want to call me names, then screw you.

wow, hit a nerve! look, you are the parent and it is your right to educate your kid the way you see fit. but to move to a gentrifying neighborhood in DC and then make a huge deal about how your kids can't go to school with "those" kids and how DCPS needs to cater to your kid's need to be apart from "those" kids, it just ugly.

Yeah, when you inch toward calling me a racist, you're damn right you hit a nerve. You better back off because you don't know me, you don't know what neighborhood I live in, and you don't know what school choices I made. Take your "those kids" crap and shove it. I've got no more time to waste with you. You don't know anything about me, but you judge me. I'm done with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I just looked up some news articles about Banneker's history, and I saw this ...

Washington Post, 1988
In 1980, [DCPS Superintendent Vincent] Reed's plan passed the school board. But four month later, the board, convinced the school cater to middle class whites, reversed itself and killed the idea. ... Reed floated one last proposal ... A quota system would give slots to every D.C. ward; areas east of the Anacostia River got more seats than Ward 3, west of Rock Creek Park.

Are Bannker's admissions still based on a quota system?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for everyone, but here is my view: My primary objective is my children; I will do whatever I can to make sure they get a good education. That means I want them at a well-run school that's not overcrowded. That means I want them with capable teachers who are focused on teaching all the students, and not just trying to drag the most unprepared students up to the bare minimum of "proficient." That means I want my children surrounded by other kids who want to learn and are not being disruptive. That means I want them in a reasonably safe neighborhood, preferably close to home. Those are my basic criteria; everything else is icing on the cake for me. I would be even more happy if my children were in a school with loads of racial and class diversity - even a school where my child is a distinct racial and class minority - but only if my basic criteria are met.

That's what I want in a school for my children. I suspect most parents - regardless of race or class - want something similar. If you think any of that makes me racist or classist, then you need to explain how.

that's fine. but don't come posting on here about how your white kid can't possibly mix with the "project kids" at Jefferson because they bring the SES average down. Just go self-segregate and accept that you don't believe in diversity.

Go to hell. You don't know me or my family, so don't tell me what I do or don't believe. If you want to explain why you think it's wrong to want my kids at good schools, I'm all ears. But if you just want to call me names, then screw you.

wow, hit a nerve! look, you are the parent and it is your right to educate your kid the way you see fit. but to move to a gentrifying neighborhood in DC and then make a huge deal about how your kids can't go to school with "those" kids and how DCPS needs to cater to your kid's need to be apart from "those" kids, it just ugly.

Yeah, when you inch toward calling me a racist, you're damn right you hit a nerve. You better back off because you don't know me, you don't know what neighborhood I live in, and you don't know what school choices I made. Take your "those kids" crap and shove it. I've got no more time to waste with you. You don't know anything about me, but you judge me. I'm done with you.

Good for you for telling the PP to shove it. Your initial post was completely reasonable. Really tired of posters judging others based on limited information and their own prejudice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I looked. I don't want my kid to be a minority by my choice.

Fine then tell that to DCPS: "You need to create more options for my "advanced learner" because I pay taxes dammit! But not Banneker, too many black kids."

lol right. Which proves that people here are actually racist and it's just not trolls.

I don't even know how this thread title is even a question of course people here are racist. They may not use racial slurs in public and they may vote blue but they refuse to even look at Banneker high school because their child would *gasp* be the minority. And they are *shocked* that van ness isn't title one because isn't that EOTP and don't poor people live there!?!?!?

Yes!!! Exactly!!! Keep it 100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for everyone, but here is my view: My primary objective is my children; I will do whatever I can to make sure they get a good education. That means I want them at a well-run school that's not overcrowded. That means I want them with capable teachers who are focused on teaching all the students, and not just trying to drag the most unprepared students up to the bare minimum of "proficient." That means I want my children surrounded by other kids who want to learn and are not being disruptive. That means I want them in a reasonably safe neighborhood, preferably close to home. Those are my basic criteria; everything else is icing on the cake for me. I would be even more happy if my children were in a school with loads of racial and class diversity - even a school where my child is a distinct racial and class minority - but only if my basic criteria are met.

That's what I want in a school for my children. I suspect most parents - regardless of race or class - want something similar. If you think any of that makes me racist or classist, then you need to explain how.

that's fine. but don't come posting on here about how your white kid can't possibly mix with the "project kids" at Jefferson because they bring the SES average down. Just go self-segregate and accept that you don't believe in diversity.

Go to hell. You don't know me or my family, so don't tell me what I do or don't believe. If you want to explain why you think it's wrong to want my kids at good schools, I'm all ears. But if you just want to call me names, then screw you.

wow, hit a nerve! look, you are the parent and it is your right to educate your kid the way you see fit. but to move to a gentrifying neighborhood in DC and then make a huge deal about how your kids can't go to school with "those" kids and how DCPS needs to cater to your kid's need to be apart from "those" kids, it just ugly.

Yeah, when you inch toward calling me a racist, you're damn right you hit a nerve. You better back off because you don't know me, you don't know what neighborhood I live in, and you don't know what school choices I made. Take your "those kids" crap and shove it. I've got no more time to waste with you. You don't know anything about me, but you judge me. I'm done with you.

Good for you for telling the PP to shove it. Your initial post was completely reasonable. Really tired of posters judging others based on limited information and their own prejudice.

the theme of this thread is racism and classism. this PP seems to be arguing that DC schools are inherently unsuited to her child. The racism/classism comes through loud and clear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for everyone, but here is my view: My primary objective is my children; I will do whatever I can to make sure they get a good education. That means I want them at a well-run school that's not overcrowded. That means I want them with capable teachers who are focused on teaching all the students, and not just trying to drag the most unprepared students up to the bare minimum of "proficient." That means I want my children surrounded by other kids who want to learn and are not being disruptive. That means I want them in a reasonably safe neighborhood, preferably close to home. Those are my basic criteria; everything else is icing on the cake for me. I would be even more happy if my children were in a school with loads of racial and class diversity - even a school where my child is a distinct racial and class minority - but only if my basic criteria are met.

That's what I want in a school for my children. I suspect most parents - regardless of race or class - want something similar. If you think any of that makes me racist or classist, then you need to explain how.

that's fine. but don't come posting on here about how your white kid can't possibly mix with the "project kids" at Jefferson because they bring the SES average down. Just go self-segregate and accept that you don't believe in diversity.

Go to hell. You don't know me or my family, so don't tell me what I do or don't believe. If you want to explain why you think it's wrong to want my kids at good schools, I'm all ears. But if you just want to call me names, then screw you.

wow, hit a nerve! look, you are the parent and it is your right to educate your kid the way you see fit. but to move to a gentrifying neighborhood in DC and then make a huge deal about how your kids can't go to school with "those" kids and how DCPS needs to cater to your kid's need to be apart from "those" kids, it just ugly.

Yeah, when you inch toward calling me a racist, you're damn right you hit a nerve. You better back off because you don't know me, you don't know what neighborhood I live in, and you don't know what school choices I made. Take your "those kids" crap and shove it. I've got no more time to waste with you. You don't know anything about me, but you judge me. I'm done with you.

Good for you for telling the PP to shove it. Your initial post was completely reasonable. Really tired of posters judging others based on limited information and their own prejudice.

the theme of this thread is racism and classism. this PP seems to be arguing that DC schools are inherently unsuited to her child. The racism/classism comes through loud and clear.

You clearly need to work on your reading comprehension, because that's not what she was saying.

[Anonymous]

I'm black and live a short distance from Banneker. It's obviously a good school, though I have no idea if my elementary school kid is cut out for it. I also don't even know if he'd even want to go there.

But there are so many other factors that we'll consider as a family when the time comes. Social well-being, safety, commute, extra-curriculars. I don't judge any other family using the same criteria and some of those take Banneker out of consideration when there are other options.

I'm not sure why some people forget that. It's almost as if the one thing that would truly make Banneker the best school is more white people.

And I know that's not true.