Racism / Classism on DCurbanmom trolls or true?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the vast majority of "higher SES" (i.e. educated middle and upper middle class) people want their kids to go to school with a solid majority of kids of the same SES. A majority (no matter which race) probably also prefer their kid not to be in a tiny minority in terms of race. It's just that people will rarely admit these things unless they are on an anonymous board.

So the reality is that the world is full of such "awful" people, if that's how you judge those preferences.

We can strive to be better.

Please explain what's wrong with either of those.

-NP

They're not rational decisions. Racism and classism are shortcuts we take instead of evaluating things rationally and with true statistical analysis. They lead to segregation and class divide.
I suppose I'm assuming most folks here are not Richard Spencer and are against segregation and class divide.

You think it's not a rational decision to assume that a school with a strong majority of kids from educated middle class families is going to be a place more conducive to academic learning?

It depends on the kid.

Some UMC kids get lost in the shuffle in an overcrowded UMC school.
My UMC kids are getting plenty of attention at their title 1 school. There's lots of small group instruction and they continue to grow rapidly. They have several very smart peers who are also getting that attention, and it doesn't bother me that they come from poorer families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is one reason why I really dislike this place. Most of y'all hide behind the name anonymous to share your true self: racist and classist.

You'd never in a million years say these things while you go on your woman's march or protest outside the White House.

You'd never in a million years say these on your Facebook wall and instead probably share black lives matters memes. Black lives only matter of most of "them" stay away from you and your child's school.

THIS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for everyone, but here is my view: My primary objective is my children; I will do whatever I can to make sure they get a good education. That means I want them at a well-run school that's not overcrowded. That means I want them with capable teachers who are focused on teaching all the students, and not just trying to drag the most unprepared students up to the bare minimum of "proficient." That means I want my children surrounded by other kids who want to learn and are not being disruptive. That means I want them in a reasonably safe neighborhood, preferably close to home. Those are my basic criteria; everything else is icing on the cake for me. I would be even more happy if my children were in a school with loads of racial and class diversity - even a school where my child is a distinct racial and class minority - but only if my basic criteria are met.

That's what I want in a school for my children. I suspect most parents - regardless of race or class - want something similar. If you think any of that makes me racist or classist, then you need to explain how.

that's fine. but don't come posting on here about how your white kid can't possibly mix with the "project kids" at Jefferson because they bring the SES average down. Just go self-segregate and accept that you don't believe in diversity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC is mostly a segregated city in and of itself.

And I've seen people on here hope it becomes more so.

What do you mean? In what context?

I think the racial demographics of schools/areas speaks for itself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Washington,_D.C.

^ that is a very clear picture of segregation.

And I've seen people on here hoping their area gentrifies (spelling?) quicker than it is. People on here are literally posting that they hope poor black people move to other areas quicker than it's happening.

yep

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for everyone, but here is my view: My primary objective is my children; I will do whatever I can to make sure they get a good education. That means I want them at a well-run school that's not overcrowded. That means I want them with capable teachers who are focused on teaching all the students, and not just trying to drag the most unprepared students up to the bare minimum of "proficient." That means I want my children surrounded by other kids who want to learn and are not being disruptive. That means I want them in a reasonably safe neighborhood, preferably close to home. Those are my basic criteria; everything else is icing on the cake for me. I would be even more happy if my children were in a school with loads of racial and class diversity - even a school where my child is a distinct racial and class minority - but only if my basic criteria are met.

That's what I want in a school for my children. I suspect most parents - regardless of race or class - want something similar. If you think any of that makes me racist or classist, then you need to explain how.

that's fine. but don't come posting on here about how your white kid can't possibly mix with the "project kids" at Jefferson because they bring the SES average down. Just go self-segregate and accept that you don't believe in diversity.

+1

[Anonymous]

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The racism and classism (my kid is "high SES" and keep those "low SES" kids away from mine) is omnipresent on this board.

I had to think about this a bit.. here's my story.

When I first moved into my neighborhood many years ago (a MCPS Red Zone and HOA neighborhood BTW), the "suspected" drug and gang dealers pretty much had the run of the place. Kids didn't play in the playgrounds. Beat downs to initiate new members occurred in the parking lot. You were pretty much worried about walking to your own car. I was assaulted for breaking up a party where young (MS or early HS) kids were being invited over to.. whatever. The cops came to my house once and warned me they confiscated a lot of weapons from the guy on a traffic stop and to be careful. We've had stabbings and shootings down the street, etc. The local MS was dealing with drugs, etc. That wasn't even the MS13 crowd down the road, BTW.

Roll forward the clock about 15 years. Today you can't recognize the place. Kids play in the playground. You don't worry about being knifed or shot after dark. Housing prices are up.

Do I discriminate who I let my children play with? I'd have to say 'yes'. I don't believe in letting my children play outside after dark. I don't believe in letting ES kids swear (or hear me doing it). I don't believe in partying with adults from 10 to 3 AM while my kids are upstairs in the house. I believe drug dealers and gang members need to steer clear of my family.

Is that considered 'classism'? Just curious.

Talking about crime as if it represents all lower SES people is what makes you classist.

[Anonymous]

Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

+ 10000000

[Anonymous]

I truly do wish that this wasn't an anonymous website. I wish there were screen names so I could put a name with a racist "face". Because this place is full of microagressions. And then fragile feelings when called out on said microaggressions.

As a white woman, it's embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for everyone, but here is my view: My primary objective is my children; I will do whatever I can to make sure they get a good education. That means I want them at a well-run school that's not overcrowded. That means I want them with capable teachers who are focused on teaching all the students, and not just trying to drag the most unprepared students up to the bare minimum of "proficient." That means I want my children surrounded by other kids who want to learn and are not being disruptive. That means I want them in a reasonably safe neighborhood, preferably close to home. Those are my basic criteria; everything else is icing on the cake for me. I would be even more happy if my children were in a school with loads of racial and class diversity - even a school where my child is a distinct racial and class minority - but only if my basic criteria are met.

That's what I want in a school for my children. I suspect most parents - regardless of race or class - want something similar. If you think any of that makes me racist or classist, then you need to explain how.

that's fine. but don't come posting on here about how your white kid can't possibly mix with the "project kids" at Jefferson because they bring the SES average down. Just go self-segregate and accept that you don't believe in diversity.

Go to hell. You don't know me or my family, so don't tell me what I do or don't believe. If you want to explain why you think it's wrong to want my kids at good schools, I'm all ears. But if you just want to call me names, then screw you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for everyone, but here is my view: My primary objective is my children; I will do whatever I can to make sure they get a good education. That means I want them at a well-run school that's not overcrowded. That means I want them with capable teachers who are focused on teaching all the students, and not just trying to drag the most unprepared students up to the bare minimum of "proficient." That means I want my children surrounded by other kids who want to learn and are not being disruptive. That means I want them in a reasonably safe neighborhood, preferably close to home. Those are my basic criteria; everything else is icing on the cake for me. I would be even more happy if my children were in a school with loads of racial and class diversity - even a school where my child is a distinct racial and class minority - but only if my basic criteria are met.

That's what I want in a school for my children. I suspect most parents - regardless of race or class - want something similar. If you think any of that makes me racist or classist, then you need to explain how.

that's fine. but don't come posting on here about how your white kid can't possibly mix with the "project kids" at Jefferson because they bring the SES average down. Just go self-segregate and accept that you don't believe in diversity.

Go to hell. You don't know me or my family, so don't tell me what I do or don't believe. If you want to explain why you think it's wrong to want my kids at good schools, I'm all ears. But if you just want to call me names, then screw you.

wow, hit a nerve! look, you are the parent and it is your right to educate your kid the way you see fit. but to move to a gentrifying neighborhood in DC and then make a huge deal about how your kids can't go to school with "those" kids and how DCPS needs to cater to your kid's need to be apart from "those" kids, it just ugly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I truly do wish that this wasn't an anonymous website. I wish there were screen names so I could put a name with a racist "face". Because this place is full of microagressions. And then fragile feelings when called out on said microaggressions.

As a white woman, it's embarrassing.

Yes. I'm a white woman too and the microaggressions here are constant.

Look at most threads talking about EOTP schools.

And no segregression in this city? Look how schools on this very board are classified: EOTP vs WOTP. Come the eff on white people. Do better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I looked. I don't want my kid to be a minority by my choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

I looked. I don't want my kid to be a minority by my choice.

Okay?

(I do hope you realize that in and of itself is the definition of white privlidge)