Racism / Classism on DCurbanmom trolls or true?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are tons of caveats in all those studies and the authors all admit the research in inconclusive and further studies must be done

Lower teacher expectations and harsher punishments based on experience since blacks test worse and have more behavioral problems which is primarily due to lower SES levels, and higher percentages of broken homes

So the inverse would be that black teachers, based on experience, expect white kids won't respect them due to higher SES levels, and higher percentages of racist households. And we can presume that parents of corresponding races feel the same.

Hey now, it looks like we've got it all figured out here.

[Anonymous]

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are you a parent who will actively fight against integrating schools? then you are racist.

This just gave me a great idea for solving the overcrowding problem at Wilson ... let's just integrate Wilson and Ellington by clustering them. The Ellington building is within the Wilson feeder boundaries, so it makes perfect sense. Students will attend Ellington for 9th grade, and then move to Wilson for 10th-12th. This will also help integrate Ellington by making it more diverse.

Yeah so this is a great idea, but exactly the sort of thing that white parents will flip about and not permit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm done with all of you. Just do me the courtesy of taking those MLK posters off your houses.

"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools."

But only learn to live together if my child's school has a certain % or above of not poor kids.

If not, then I'll just move to the suburbs and learn to live with people that look like me.

No-- it's "if not then I'll just move to the burbs and learn to live with people who make as much money as me."

Why is this so hard to accept?

It's hard to accept because I'm actually minimally educated in the history of race in this country, and so I know that the intersection between race an "people who make as much money as me" is not accidental or random, but rather due to a history of entrenched racism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

are you a parent who will actively fight against integrating schools? then you are racist.

This just gave me a great idea for solving the overcrowding problem at Wilson ... let's just integrate Wilson and Ellington by clustering them. The Ellington building is within the Wilson feeder boundaries, so it makes perfect sense. Students will attend Ellington for 9th grade, and then move to Wilson for 10th-12th. This will also help integrate Ellington by making it more diverse.

Yeah so this is a great idea, but exactly the sort of thing that white parents will flip about and not permit.

This makes no sense. 1) These are two different schools. Do you propose to combine them? That would effectively kill Ellington. 2) Ellington kids are on a totally different curriculum and need different physical resources. 3) It's not the white parents who would object-- it's the Ellington-Military-Complex that would lose their mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm done with all of you. Just do me the courtesy of taking those MLK posters off your houses.

"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools."

But only learn to live together if my child's school has a certain % or above of not poor kids.

If not, then I'll just move to the suburbs and learn to live with people that look like me.

No-- it's "if not then I'll just move to the burbs and learn to live with people who make as much money as me."

Why is this so hard to accept?

It's hard to accept because I'm actually minimally educated in the history of race in this country, and so I know that the intersection between race an "people who make as much money as me" is not accidental or random, but rather due to a history of entrenched racism.

So then all rich people are racist? Gotcha.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

are you a parent who will actively fight against integrating schools? then you are racist.

This just gave me a great idea for solving the overcrowding problem at Wilson ... let's just integrate Wilson and Ellington by clustering them. The Ellington building is within the Wilson feeder boundaries, so it makes perfect sense. Students will attend Ellington for 9th grade, and then move to Wilson for 10th-12th. This will also help integrate Ellington by making it more diverse.

Yeah so this is a great idea, but exactly the sort of thing that white parents will flip about and not permit.

This makes no sense. 1) These are two different schools. Do you propose to combine them? That would effectively kill Ellington. 2) Ellington kids are on a totally different curriculum and need different physical resources. 3) It's not the white parents who would object-- it's the Ellington-Military-Complex that would lose their mind.

Then you could do a school-within-school model for Ellington's arts curriculum. But yes, granted, Ellington is sui generis and would raise entirely additional issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm done with all of you. Just do me the courtesy of taking those MLK posters off your houses.

"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools."

But only learn to live together if my child's school has a certain % or above of not poor kids.

If not, then I'll just move to the suburbs and learn to live with people that look like me.

No-- it's "if not then I'll just move to the burbs and learn to live with people who make as much money as me."

Why is this so hard to accept?

It's hard to accept because I'm actually minimally educated in the history of race in this country, and so I know that the intersection between race an "people who make as much money as me" is not accidental or random, but rather due to a history of entrenched racism.

So then all rich people are racist? Gotcha.

No. The point is, you don't get a pass from racism by claiming "all I want to do is be around people of my same SES level."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

are you a parent who will actively fight against integrating schools? then you are racist.

This just gave me a great idea for solving the overcrowding problem at Wilson ... let's just integrate Wilson and Ellington by clustering them. The Ellington building is within the Wilson feeder boundaries, so it makes perfect sense. Students will attend Ellington for 9th grade, and then move to Wilson for 10th-12th. This will also help integrate Ellington by making it more diverse.

Yeah so this is a great idea, but exactly the sort of thing that white parents will flip about and not permit.

You're wrong. It's the Ellington parents who oppose this. What does that say about them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm done with all of you. Just do me the courtesy of taking those MLK posters off your houses.

"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools."

But only learn to live together if my child's school has a certain % or above of not poor kids.

If not, then I'll just move to the suburbs and learn to live with people that look like me.

No-- it's "if not then I'll just move to the burbs and learn to live with people who make as much money as me."

Why is this so hard to accept?

It's hard to accept because I'm actually minimally educated in the history of race in this country, and so I know that the intersection between race an "people who make as much money as me" is not accidental or random, but rather due to a history of entrenched racism.

So then all rich people are racist? Gotcha.

No. The point is, you don't get a pass from racism by claiming "all I want to do is be around people of my same SES level."

You are really trying to stretch this. All the UMC black people have the same concerns and flock to the same schools as well.

But whatever- if you want to label my choice to put my child's education ahead of solving race relations in this country, then yes. I am a racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm done with all of you. Just do me the courtesy of taking those MLK posters off your houses.

"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools."

But only learn to live together if my child's school has a certain % or above of not poor kids.

If not, then I'll just move to the suburbs and learn to live with people that look like me.

No-- it's "if not then I'll just move to the burbs and learn to live with people who make as much money as me."

Why is this so hard to accept?

It's hard to accept because I'm actually minimally educated in the history of race in this country, and so I know that the intersection between race an "people who make as much money as me" is not accidental or random, but rather due to a history of entrenched racism.

So then all rich people are racist? Gotcha.

No. The point is, you don't get a pass from racism by claiming "all I want to do is be around people of my same SES level."

You are really trying to stretch this. All the UMC black people have the same concerns and flock to the same schools as well.

But whatever- if you want to label my choice to put my child's education ahead of solving race relations in this country, then yes. I am a racist.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

are you a parent who will actively fight against integrating schools? then you are racist.

This just gave me a great idea for solving the overcrowding problem at Wilson ... let's just integrate Wilson and Ellington by clustering them. The Ellington building is within the Wilson feeder boundaries, so it makes perfect sense. Students will attend Ellington for 9th grade, and then move to Wilson for 10th-12th. This will also help integrate Ellington by making it more diverse.

Yeah so this is a great idea, but exactly the sort of thing that white parents will flip about and not permit.

This makes no sense. 1) These are two different schools. Do you propose to combine them? That would effectively kill Ellington. 2) Ellington kids are on a totally different curriculum and need different physical resources. 3) It's not the white parents who would object-- it's the Ellington-Military-Complex that would lose their mind.

Ellington's curriculum is not totally different -- they do 100% of the DCPS curriculum/school day and then on top of that do 3 hours of Ellington-specific arts programming a day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm done with all of you. Just do me the courtesy of taking those MLK posters off your houses.

"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools."

But only learn to live together if my child's school has a certain % or above of not poor kids.

If not, then I'll just move to the suburbs and learn to live with people that look like me.

No-- it's "if not then I'll just move to the burbs and learn to live with people who make as much money as me."

Why is this so hard to accept?

It's hard to accept because I'm actually minimally educated in the history of race in this country, and so I know that the intersection between race an "people who make as much money as me" is not accidental or random, but rather due to a history of entrenched racism.

Yo idiot with an ax to grind why don't you check in with all the middle and upper middle class blacks who left DC when it was chocolate city. Are they racist too because they didn't want to associate with the riffraff

So then all rich people are racist? Gotcha.

No. The point is, you don't get a pass from racism by claiming "all I want to do is be around people of my same SES level."

You are really trying to stretch this. All the UMC black people have the same concerns and flock to the same schools as well.

But whatever- if you want to label my choice to put my child's education ahead of solving race relations in this country, then yes. I am a racist.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm done with all of you. Just do me the courtesy of taking those MLK posters off your houses.

"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools."

But only learn to live together if my child's school has a certain % or above of not poor kids.

If not, then I'll just move to the suburbs and learn to live with people that look like me.

No-- it's "if not then I'll just move to the burbs and learn to live with people who make as much money as me."

Why is this so hard to accept?

It's hard to accept because I'm actually minimally educated in the history of race in this country, and so I know that the intersection between race an "people who make as much money as me" is not accidental or random, but rather due to a history of entrenched racism.

So then all rich people are racist? Gotcha.

No. The point is, you don't get a pass from racism by claiming "all I want to do is be around people of my same SES level."

You are really trying to stretch this. All the UMC black people have the same concerns and flock to the same schools as well.

But whatever- if you want to label my choice to put my child's education ahead of solving race relations in this country, then yes. I am a racist.

NP here. I know a lot of UMC black families at my job in dc, without fail every single one of them moved to burbs when they had kids, or put kid in private school. They look at me like I am crazy for trying my high poverty IB school. UMC blacks are probably the least likely to attend AA/high poverty schools.

[Anonymous]

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no. you don't have a fucking clue about race and racism and how inequality plays out in the US today. You think racism means putting on a white hood and calling people the n-word. so you put up an MLK quote in your gentrifier front yard, pat yourself on the back, and refuse to send your white child to school with the neighborhood kids. you're fucking the WORST and the reason I sometimes thing black ppl would seriously be better off voting republican because "liberal" whites truly don't give a shit and will kick anyone in the way of their kid.

I'm white, and I refuse to send DD to PK3 in one of the two neighborhood schools. It's not because the kids are brown or "unprepared." I am foreign and tend to befriend foreigners, not white Americans, so DD's best friends are Asian and African. I am also one of the few white people at my job and genuinely like my coworkers. I avoid one of the IB school not because of race or SES (I've been a poor SAHM, so not one to judge in that dept.), but because of what I saw at the open house. Things like: if a child is spending too much time in one play corner, the teacher asks them to go try something else. Umm, if a child is immersed in play, coming up with new ideas and enjoying themselves, why have a rule that the teacher should interrupt the kid and make them go do something else? That flies in the face of everything I've read about ECE: that concentration and uninterrupted time are important for learning. That and the like turned me off, and I don't want DD spending long hours in that environment. I really do wish she could go to a neighborhood school, which is why we are on the wait list for the other IB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is why I think soooo many of the white people in DC are racist AF. THERE ARE NO WHITE KIDS AT BANNEKER.

I was shouting this from the rooftops in some thread not too long ago. Not only won't they consider sending their kids there, they didn't even take the time to look up the data to realize it isn't a school only for black kids. People literally kept saying that.

+1000...exactly. The hypocrisy of some white people. In one breath, they just want their kid to get a good education in a safe learning environment. Then, in the next breath, they bad mouth Banneker as a Blacks only school because whites don't enroll their kids.