Where will my Shepherd Elem kid go to middle/high school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:According to the 2016-17 OSSE enrollment data, there are now 538 6th graders at Deal.

However, the total number of 5th graders from the 6 Deal feeders is 439, significantly fewer.

So what will happen for next fall? Will 99+ students move IB for Deal or students now in charters or privates will enroll at Deal?

Or maybe, just maybe, things are leveling off a bit? https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment



we we really think that 99+ students will have moved to the Deal IB zone by the first day of school in 2017 or return to DCPS from charters/private etc?

Or people who strike out in the lottery for MS and move IB? It's not unimaginable.

Apartments IB for Deal are cheaper than many private schools' tuition.[/quote

Not that much cheaper but multiples inferior in the cost benifit ratio for what your get. I can't think of one private school that isn't at least twice as good as deal. It is only a great middle school by D.C. standards and lack of other options

Well, it's your money. But many, many people disagree with you.

That's why we ended up with the crook vs. the crank. Not enough people have my high expectations.

[Anonymous]

The point that Shepherd is only going to get whiter (and thus easier to kick out of Deal) remains unchallenged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point that Shepherd is only going to get whiter (and thus easier to kick out of Deal) remains unchallenged.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing that Shepherd is going to get "whiter." The point some PPs have made (including myself) is that the change in demographics will likely take a good deal longer than some predict, due to some particular features of the neighborhood. For example, the neighborhood is middle/upper middle SES to begin with, so gentrification isn't really an accurate description of what's going on. Also, it's low density, as it's almost completely SFHs, and turnover in homes is slow since many families hold onto their homes and pass on to children. Finally, while many families moving in are white, there are also AA and interracial families moving in, so there is not as stark a contrast in the upper and lower grades at Shepherd vs. some other EOTP schools.

Also, I don't think that Shepherd being "easier to kick out of Deal" necessarily follows from a slow change in demographics.

[Anonymous]

What's being overlooked here is the well-off, politically connected AA local political power in Colonial Village and SP. These are donors and influencers whose support cannot be ignored if you have local political power. They're the behind the scenes voices that will keep Shepherd feeding to Deal/Wilson for a long time into the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's being overlooked here is the well-off, politically connected AA local political power in Colonial Village and SP. These are donors and influencers whose support cannot be ignored if you have local political power. They're the behind the scenes voices that will keep Shepherd feeding to Deal/Wilson for a long time into the future.

I'm not so sure about that? I live in the neighborhood. A lot of my neighbors that seem to fit the description above seem to do private. Is there any proof that SP/CV folks are any more politically powerful than people in any other neighborhood (Hill, WOTP, etc.)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's being overlooked here is the well-off, politically connected AA local political power in Colonial Village and SP. These are donors and influencers whose support cannot be ignored if you have local political power. They're the behind the scenes voices that will keep Shepherd feeding to Deal/Wilson for a long time into the future.

I'm not so sure about that? I live in the neighborhood. A lot of my neighbors that seem to fit the description above seem to do private. Is there any proof that SP/CV folks are any more politically powerful than people in any other neighborhood (Hill, WOTP, etc.)?

They may send their kids to private schools, but they won't want the property value hit of losing Deal/Wilson for Coolidge.

As for influence - check the donation history and political appointments. Broadly speaking SP/Col Village is a bigger player in city politics. Cap Hill / CCDC more influential in federal government.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's being overlooked here is the well-off, politically connected AA local political power in Colonial Village and SP. These are donors and influencers whose support cannot be ignored if you have local political power. They're the behind the scenes voices that will keep Shepherd feeding to Deal/Wilson for a long time into the future.

I'm not so sure about that? I live in the neighborhood. A lot of my neighbors that seem to fit the description above seem to do private. Is there any proof that SP/CV folks are any more politically powerful than people in any other neighborhood (Hill, WOTP, etc.)?

They may send their kids to private schools, but they won't want the property value hit of losing Deal/Wilson for Coolidge.

As for influence - check the donation history and political appointments. Broadly speaking SP/Col Village is a bigger player in city politics. Cap Hill / CCDC more influential in federal government.

I agree with you about everything except property value. Petworth and Crestwood don't have issues with values and neither have middle/high. The legacy SP residents care about public schools even if they don't send their kids or didn't send their kids to them. SP is very unique in that way. A large amount of neighbors contribute and support Shepherd elementary despite not having any kids there. It's one of the things I love about living here.

[Anonymous]

McFarland and then Roosevelt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought that I heard that Deal will be adding another 6th grade "team" next year in anticipation of more students not fewer.

They are also adding a 7th grade team because this year's 6th is also too big for just 4 teams. So next year both grades will have 5 teams, while 8th grade will have 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What's being overlooked here is the well-off, politically connected AA local political power in Colonial Village and SP. These are donors and influencers whose support cannot be ignored if you have local political power. They're the behind the scenes voices that will keep Shepherd feeding to Deal/Wilson for a long time into the future.

I'm not so sure about that? I live in the neighborhood. A lot of my neighbors that seem to fit the description above seem to do private. Is there any proof that SP/CV folks are any more politically powerful than people in any other neighborhood (Hill, WOTP, etc.)?

They may send their kids to private schools, but they won't want the property value hit of losing Deal/Wilson for Coolidge.

As for influence - check the donation history and political appointments. Broadly speaking SP/Col Village is a bigger player in city politics. Cap Hill / CCDC more influential in federal government.

I agree with you about everything except property value. Petworth and Crestwood don't have issues with values and neither have middle/high. The legacy SP residents care about public schools even if they don't send their kids or didn't send their kids to them. SP is very unique in that way. A large amount of neighbors contribute and support Shepherd elementary despite not having any kids there. It's one of the things I love about living here.

I'm the "not so sure about that" PP above. That is a good point, PP. This is a unique neighborhood, in that many families here have been in DC and even SP itself for generations and are invested in the neighborhood school. Many still have ties. For example, one of our retired neighbors sent his kids to Shepherd years ago, followed by a Big 3. He still does dropoff for a Shepherd student (I assume a relative, godchild, family friend, etc.). Ties run deep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:McFarland and then Roosevelt.

Nope. If anything, it would be new north middle and Coolidge along with Lafayette

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's possible that 8 years from now Shepherd will still feed to Deal, but considering that Deal is currently pressing 1,500 students it seems likely some schools will need to be cut from the feeding system. Shepherd is one of the more logical choices to eliminate.

MacFarland is the most logical possibility. Considering Roosevelt is right next to MacFarland, there's no way it would be Coolidge (which is good, because Coolidge might as well be jail).

Spoken like a truly prejudiced, knuckle dragging, midwestern tralier monkey who never set foot inside of Coolidge HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's possible that 8 years from now Shepherd will still feed to Deal, but considering that Deal is currently pressing 1,500 students it seems likely some schools will need to be cut from the feeding system. Shepherd is one of the more logical choices to eliminate.

MacFarland is the most logical possibility. Considering Roosevelt is right next to MacFarland, there's no way it would be Coolidge (which is good, because Coolidge might as well be jail).

Spoken like a truly prejudiced, knuckle dragging, midwestern tralier monkey who never set foot inside of Coolidge HS.

NP. Coolidge isn't jail, but right now it is a delapidated ghost town.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's possible that 8 years from now Shepherd will still feed to Deal, but considering that Deal is currently pressing 1,500 students it seems likely some schools will need to be cut from the feeding system. Shepherd is one of the more logical choices to eliminate.

MacFarland is the most logical possibility. Considering Roosevelt is right next to MacFarland, there's no way it would be Coolidge (which is good, because Coolidge might as well be jail).

Spoken like a truly prejudiced, knuckle dragging, midwestern tralier monkey who never set foot inside of Coolidge HS.

Coolidge is an educational disgrace. If you think my disgust that having less than 25% of students performing at grade level is acceptable makes me a knucke-dragger, then I submit it makes you a slime-crawling reptile that eats its own.

Children deserve better than that. How dare you suggest that they don't. You snake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's possible that 8 years from now Shepherd will still feed to Deal, but considering that Deal is currently pressing 1,500 students it seems likely some schools will need to be cut from the feeding system. Shepherd is one of the more logical choices to eliminate.

MacFarland is the most logical possibility. Considering Roosevelt is right next to MacFarland, there's no way it would be Coolidge (which is good, because Coolidge might as well be jail).

Spoken like a truly prejudiced, knuckle dragging, midwestern tralier monkey who never set foot inside of Coolidge HS.

Coolidge is an educational disgrace. If you think my disgust that having less than 25% of students performing at grade level is acceptable makes me a knucke-dragger, then I submit it makes you a slime-crawling reptile that eats its own.

Children deserve better than that. How dare you suggest that they don't. You snake.

NP. What does having low proficiency have to do with being compared to a jail? Also, Wilson had very low PARCC scores too.