Is this the end for Sup. Jack Smith?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the people who know him and work with him respect him and the people who read the headlines or meet him in passing don't. Interesting.

All anyone needs to know is how he has handled this. Every person I spoke with that went to the meeting last night thought he was pathetic. PATHETIC - 15 minutes of answering questions is all he would take despite the line of folks wanting to ask questions, that says a lot about his commitment to the community. Don't you agree????? I am sure he is getting to those index cards today....

Well, yes. But that's not because of what he said at the meeting. It's because of who went to the meeting.

And your point? He's still pathetic and you know it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the OP and others who are upset, what would you have preferred him to have said?

That he intended to break federal law and ban undocumented children, or the children of undocumented parents?

That's obviously what folks want, but he can't say that because he can't do that.

+1 Didn't they try that in AL or somewhere? Courts struck them down.

If you want the county to follow federal law and report illegal immigrants that they arrest to ICE, then they should also follow the federal law that states that public schools must educate a child regardless of immigration status. Yes, that is the law. You don't get to pick and choose which federal laws you follow. And for the record, no, I don't think MoCo should be a sanctuary county. They should report illegal immigrants who are arrested to ICE.

However, I would argue that an 18 yr old is not a child, so we shouldn't be having 18 to 21 yr olds in HS, regardless of immigration status. If they turn 18 while in HS, fine; they should be able to finish it. But, since the law only states that the we need to educate a "child", then why do we need to allow 21 yr olds in HS?

It's not, and it doesn't intend to be.

Which law are you citing, that says that we need to educate a "child"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the people who know him and work with him respect him and the people who read the headlines or meet him in passing don't. Interesting.

All anyone needs to know is how he has handled this. Every person I spoke with that went to the meeting last night thought he was pathetic. PATHETIC - 15 minutes of answering questions is all he would take despite the line of folks wanting to ask questions, that says a lot about his commitment to the community. Don't you agree????? I am sure he is getting to those index cards today....

Well, yes. But that's not because of what he said at the meeting. It's because of who went to the meeting.

And your point? He's still pathetic and you know it.

My point is that it's not valid to say that everybody thinks he's pathetic, based on the opinions of the people who went to the meeting.

As it happens, I don't think he's pathetic. So in fact, not everybody thinks he's pathetic. And I believe that I know more about my own opinions than you do.

What, exactly, did you want him to say?

[Anonymous]

Why isn't Jack allowing these non-English speaking adults attend evening classes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the OP and others who are upset, what would you have preferred him to have said?

That he intended to break federal law and ban undocumented children, or the children of undocumented parents?

That's obviously what folks want, but he can't say that because he can't do that.

+1 Didn't they try that in AL or somewhere? Courts struck them down.

If you want the county to follow federal law and report illegal immigrants that they arrest to ICE, then they should also follow the federal law that states that public schools must educate a child regardless of immigration status. Yes, that is the law. You don't get to pick and choose which federal laws you follow. And for the record, no, I don't think MoCo should be a sanctuary county. They should report illegal immigrants who are arrested to ICE.

However, I would argue that an 18 yr old is not a child, so we shouldn't be having 18 to 21 yr olds in HS, regardless of immigration status. If they turn 18 while in HS, fine; they should be able to finish it. But, since the law only states that the we need to educate a "child", then why do we need to allow 21 yr olds in HS?

It's not, and it doesn't intend to be.

Which law are you citing, that says that we need to educate a "child"?

plyler vs doe and the 14th amendment.

http://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-7-4-c-education-and-the-14th-amendment

[Anonymous]

House Judicary Chairman is now involved- he's asked Secretary Kelly Department of Homeland Security to get involved to investigate background of suspects. The Feds are taking this on, so yeah Smith is toast.




https://twitter.com/fitzfox5dc/status/844670291037081601u

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:House Judicary Chairman is now involved- he's asked Secretary Kelly Department of Homeland Security to get involved to investigate background of suspects. The Feds are taking this on, so yeah Smith is toast.




https://twitter.com/fitzfox5dc/status/844670291037081601u

Hallelujah. Now there's hope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:House Judicary Chairman is now involved- he's asked Secretary Kelly Department of Homeland Security to get involved to investigate background of suspects. The Feds are taking this on, so yeah Smith is toast.




https://twitter.com/fitzfox5dc/status/844670291037081601u

Hallelujah. Now there's hope.

How does this make smith toast, and how will this stop rapes occurring in HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:House Judicary Chairman is now involved- he's asked Secretary Kelly Department of Homeland Security to get involved to investigate background of suspects. The Feds are taking this on, so yeah Smith is toast.




https://twitter.com/fitzfox5dc/status/844670291037081601u

Hallelujah. Now there's hope.

How does this make smith toast, and how will this stop rapes occurring in HS?

He's toast because he's getting flamed for not handling this properly. Hogan slammed him and Spicer cared more. Parents are outraged and so is anyone else following this story nationally. I was at the meeting. I've never seen anyone more indifferent to such a heinous crime. He doesn't care. You've gotta care to make changes. The BoE will either fire him or force him to step down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:House Judicary Chairman is now involved- he's asked Secretary Kelly Department of Homeland Security to get involved to investigate background of suspects. The Feds are taking this on, so yeah Smith is toast.




https://twitter.com/fitzfox5dc/status/844670291037081601u

Hallelujah. Now there's hope.

How does this make smith toast, and how will this stop rapes occurring in HS?

He's toast because he's getting flamed for not handling this properly. Hogan slammed him and Spicer cared more. Parents are outraged and so is anyone else following this story nationally. I was at the meeting. I've never seen anyone more indifferent to such a heinous crime. He doesn't care. You've gotta care to make changes. The BoE will either fire him or force him to step down.

The tweet has been removed.

What changes can Smith make that are not illegal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:House Judicary Chairman is now involved- he's asked Secretary Kelly Department of Homeland Security to get involved to investigate background of suspects. The Feds are taking this on, so yeah Smith is toast.




https://twitter.com/fitzfox5dc/status/844670291037081601u

Hallelujah. Now there's hope.

How does this make smith toast, and how will this stop rapes occurring in HS?

He's toast because he's getting flamed for not handling this properly. Hogan slammed him and Spicer cared more. Parents are outraged and so is anyone else following this story nationally. I was at the meeting. I've never seen anyone more indifferent to such a heinous crime. He doesn't care. You've gotta care to make changes. The BoE will either fire him or force him to step down.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:House Judicary Chairman is now involved- he's asked Secretary Kelly Department of Homeland Security to get involved to investigate background of suspects. The Feds are taking this on, so yeah Smith is toast.




https://twitter.com/fitzfox5dc/status/844670291037081601u

Hallelujah. Now there's hope.

How does this make smith toast, and how will this stop rapes occurring in HS?

He's toast because he's getting flamed for not handling this properly. Hogan slammed him and Spicer cared more. Parents are outraged and so is anyone else following this story nationally. I was at the meeting. I've never seen anyone more indifferent to such a heinous crime. He doesn't care. You've gotta care to make changes. The BoE will either fire him or force him to step down.

The tweet has been removed.

What changes can Smith make that are not illegal?

Fox 5 News reported this- go to their their twitter homepage. Anyway here's what he could have done- tighten up the documents required. No proof of age, identity. These were unaccompanied minors, check the ICE status of everyone coming into the school system. They don't even have an address for one of the suspects. Tighten security in schools- more cameras more full time security officers. Eliminate or constant patrol of all high risk security areas like this secluded bathroom. Night school for this population-- 18 yr old freshman. A buddy system where at least two children are always travellibg together throughout the halls. I can think of more, but he's the one collecting 275k of our tax dollars and the best he could do was try to sweep this under the rug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He clearly wanted to sweep this under the rug. Just another overpaid scumbag bureaucrat.

+1 you got that right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He clearly wanted to sweep this under the rug. Just another overpaid scumbag bureaucrat.

+1 you got that right.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:House Judicary Chairman is now involved- he's asked Secretary Kelly Department of Homeland Security to get involved to investigate background of suspects. The Feds are taking this on, so yeah Smith is toast.




https://twitter.com/fitzfox5dc/status/844670291037081601u

Hallelujah. Now there's hope.

How does this make smith toast, and how will this stop rapes occurring in HS?

He's toast because he's getting flamed for not handling this properly. Hogan slammed him and Spicer cared more. Parents are outraged and so is anyone else following this story nationally. I was at the meeting. I've never seen anyone more indifferent to such a heinous crime. He doesn't care. You've gotta care to make changes. The BoE will either fire him or force him to step down.

The tweet has been removed.

What changes can Smith make that are not illegal?

Fox 5 News reported this- go to their their twitter homepage. Anyway here's what he could have done- tighten up the documents required. No proof of age, identity. These were unaccompanied minors, check the ICE status of everyone coming into the school system. They don't even have an address for one of the suspects. Tighten security in schools- more cameras more full time security officers. Eliminate or constant patrol of all high risk security areas like this secluded bathroom. Night school for this population-- 18 yr old freshman. A buddy system where at least two children are always travellibg together throughout the halls. I can think of more, but he's the one collecting 275k of our tax dollars and the best he could do was try to sweep this under the rug.

Legally, the district is required to educate "children". The guy was 17 when he came here so he wouldn't have been able to go to night school.

Homeless American kids also don't have addresses.

You want HS kids to have a buddy system? Did you when you were in HS? I didn't, and I went to a HS that had real gang bangers and illegal immigrants, and no one was raped or murdered.

The HS had five security officers, but I don't know where they were at the time.

I do think having bathrooms in secluded areas are not a good idea. Was this bathroom in a secluded area?