Patricia Arquette's Oscar Speech on Wage Inequality...

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with women is that many of you want SPECIAL privileges, not equal treatment. You want 6 months to a year PAID maternity leave, paid pumping breaks all day long, paid time off to take care of all your personal problems.

Equal pay, yes. Forget the rest because it isn't going to happen and I say this as a woman who has three children.

See Patricia Arquette's comments. The reason for this is that American women are giving birth to the next generation of taxpayers and citizens. We ALL have a stake in supporting women who have given birth. It's not a benefit for women, it's a benefit for society.

Alternatively, we can make it really difficult for women to have children and work, and maybe fewer women will have children. Ask Japan how that's working out.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it humorous to hear a speech on wage equality come from a person who makes millions.

Are you under the impression that female actresses are paid equally to their male counterparts?

You might want to go back and look through some of the hacked Sony documents.

Actors whether male or female are paid for their box office draw. Patricia Arquette could never carry a film like Benedict Cumverbatch does and would be paid accordingly. That said, I don't think she was referring solely to Hollywood but to jobs where the difference between $80 an hour and $90 an hour is significant rather than the difference between $1 million for a film versus $1.2 million.

No one is comparing Cumberbatch and Arquette. Again, people are allowing themselves to be distracted from the larger point.

In American Hustle, we have 2 female stars with more star power and box-office success than their male counterparts (FAR more, where Jeremy Renner is concerned). Yet the women were paid more than 20% less. So this isn't about star power or box-office success. It isn't about the number of hours worked. It's not about negotiating skill, since the actors aren't negotiating for themselves, but instead rely on attorneys, managers, etc.

Now, ask yourself, why is your reaction that Adams and Lawrence should be thankful they are making millions? Is it because the little women should be thankful they get whatever crumbs they are thrown?

Why is your reaction that they should have taken even LESS, so that lower-wage people below them could make more? And if that IS your reaction, why you aren't saying that Cooper, Bale, and Renner should have taken less so that the lower-wage people below them (ahem, including Adams and Lawrence) could make more?

Perhaps they need to get better attorneys, managers, etc. Perhaps their male counterparts pay their attorneys, managers, etc., more so they work harder for a bigger contract.
There is A LOT we don’t know about how these contracts are formed. Sorry, I am not buying the wage gap argument. And, I am a woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a nanny who got fired (by her "equal rights" screaming employer, no less) when she needed a sick day.

Odd how this happens. Women demand benefits for themselves, but refuse to extend similar "equal rights" for their own domestic workers.

I assume from your comments that the employer was a single mother or half of a lesbian couple? Because you aren't mentioning that there was a man/husband involved in the decision to fire the nanny.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with women is that many of you want SPECIAL privileges, not equal treatment. You want 6 months to a year PAID maternity leave, paid pumping breaks all day long, paid time off to take care of all your personal problems.

Equal pay, yes. Forget the rest because it isn't going to happen and I say this as a woman who has three children.

See Patricia Arquette's comments. The reason for this is that American women are giving birth to the next generation of taxpayers and citizens. We ALL have a stake in supporting women who have given birth. It's not a benefit for women, it's a benefit for society.

Alternatively, we can make it really difficult for women to have children and work, and maybe fewer women will have children. Ask Japan how that's working out.

Oh, please. More redistribution talk.
Women have been having children and working for ages. Without paid maternity leave. Suck it up.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it humorous to hear a speech on wage equality come from a person who makes millions.

Are you under the impression that female actresses are paid equally to their male counterparts?

You might want to go back and look through some of the hacked Sony documents.

Actors whether male or female are paid for their box office draw. Patricia Arquette could never carry a film like Benedict Cumverbatch does and would be paid accordingly. That said, I don't think she was referring solely to Hollywood but to jobs where the difference between $80 an hour and $90 an hour is significant rather than the difference between $1 million for a film versus $1.2 million.

No one is comparing Cumberbatch and Arquette. Again, people are allowing themselves to be distracted from the larger point.

In American Hustle, we have 2 female stars with more star power and box-office success than their male counterparts (FAR more, where Jeremy Renner is concerned). Yet the women were paid more than 20% less. So this isn't about star power or box-office success. It isn't about the number of hours worked. It's not about negotiating skill, since the actors aren't negotiating for themselves, but instead rely on attorneys, managers, etc.

Now, ask yourself, why is your reaction that Adams and Lawrence should be thankful they are making millions? Is it because the little women should be thankful they get whatever crumbs they are thrown?

Why is your reaction that they should have taken even LESS, so that lower-wage people below them could make more? And if that IS your reaction, why you aren't saying that Cooper, Bale, and Renner should have taken less so that the lower-wage people below them (ahem, including Adams and Lawrence) could make more?

Perhaps they need to get better attorneys, managers, etc. Perhaps their male counterparts pay their attorneys, managers, etc., more so they work harder for a bigger contract.
There is A LOT we don’t know about how these contracts are formed. Sorry, I am not buying the wage gap argument. And, I am a woman.

You are a rube, LOL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with women is that many of you want SPECIAL privileges, not equal treatment. You want 6 months to a year PAID maternity leave, paid pumping breaks all day long, paid time off to take care of all your personal problems.

Equal pay, yes. Forget the rest because it isn't going to happen and I say this as a woman who has three children.

See Patricia Arquette's comments. The reason for this is that American women are giving birth to the next generation of taxpayers and citizens. We ALL have a stake in supporting women who have given birth. It's not a benefit for women, it's a benefit for society.

Alternatively, we can make it really difficult for women to have children and work, and maybe fewer women will have children. Ask Japan how that's working out.

Oh, please. More redistribution talk.
Women have been having children and working for ages. Without paid maternity leave. Suck it up.

So I assume you will be rejecting your Medicare and Social Security benefits? Wouldn't want you to be partaking in any of that redistribution.

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Anonymous wrote:Emily Miller is getting beat up on Twitter over her comments about this.

What did she say?

Actualky, I was raised to think for myself and tell the truth. Feminist mind meld means sacrificing individual thought.
So you think it helps women to agree with whatever political nonsense Hollywood movie stars spew? Okay.

There is more here: https://twitter.com/EmilyMiller

Who IS this person? I guess I finally have to admit I'm getting old - I have no idea who any of these people are any more.

Emily Miller used to be Tom DeLay's press secretary. Then she went on to write a ridiculous series/book about getting a gun license in the District. She's quite the colorful character.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/22/AR2009112202095.html

And, yes, she's a reporter now for the local Fox affiliate.

[Anonymous]

Wage equality won't happen until childcare and maternity gets better.

I wish I had known when I was in college and I would have gone for a mommy track from the get go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with women is that many of you want SPECIAL privileges, not equal treatment. You want 6 months to a year PAID maternity leave, paid pumping breaks all day long, paid time off to take care of all your personal problems.

Equal pay, yes. Forget the rest because it isn't going to happen and I say this as a woman who has three children.

See Patricia Arquette's comments. The reason for this is that American women are giving birth to the next generation of taxpayers and citizens. We ALL have a stake in supporting women who have given birth. It's not a benefit for women, it's a benefit for society.

Alternatively, we can make it really difficult for women to have children and work, and maybe fewer women will have children. Ask Japan how that's working out.

Oh, please. More redistribution talk.
Women have been having children and working for ages. Without paid maternity leave. Suck it up.

So I assume you will be rejecting your Medicare and Social Security benefits? Wouldn't want you to be partaking in any of that redistribution.

You are correct. I will not be getting either. I am doing fine without government assistance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Male porn stars only make around $40,000/year, while female porn stars can make up to $250,000/year (en.wikipedia.org)

Great ! So if you want wage equality you just have to be a whore! Problem solved. Idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a nanny who got fired (by her "equal rights" screaming employer, no less) when she needed a sick day.

Odd how this happens. Women demand benefits for themselves, but refuse to extend similar "equal rights" for their own domestic workers.

Was the employer Patricia arquette? No? Then cool story

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it humorous to hear a speech on wage equality come from a person who makes millions.

Are you under the impression that female actresses are paid equally to their male counterparts?

You might want to go back and look through some of the hacked Sony documents.

Actors whether male or female are paid for their box office draw. Patricia Arquette could never carry a film like Benedict Cumverbatch does and would be paid accordingly. That said, I don't think she was referring solely to Hollywood but to jobs where the difference between $80 an hour and $90 an hour is significant rather than the difference between $1 million for a film versus $1.2 million.

No one is comparing Cumberbatch and Arquette. Again, people are allowing themselves to be distracted from the larger point.

In American Hustle, we have 2 female stars with more star power and box-office success than their male counterparts (FAR more, where Jeremy Renner is concerned). Yet the women were paid more than 20% less. So this isn't about star power or box-office success. It isn't about the number of hours worked. It's not about negotiating skill, since the actors aren't negotiating for themselves, but instead rely on attorneys, managers, etc.

Now, ask yourself, why is your reaction that Adams and Lawrence should be thankful they are making millions? Is it because the little women should be thankful they get whatever crumbs they are thrown?

Why is your reaction that they should have taken even LESS, so that lower-wage people below them could make more? And if that IS your reaction, why you aren't saying that Cooper, Bale, and Renner should have taken less so that the lower-wage people below them (ahem, including Adams and Lawrence) could make more?

Perhaps they need to get better attorneys, managers, etc. Perhaps their male counterparts pay their attorneys, managers, etc., more so they work harder for a bigger contract.
There is A LOT we don’t know about how these contracts are formed. Sorry, I am not buying the wage gap argument. And, I am a woman.

Bending pretty far over backwards for that one. Are wage inequalities between races also not based on race?

[Anonymous]

I LOVE Patricia Arquette and applaud her for her comments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem with women is that many of you want SPECIAL privileges, not equal treatment. You want 6 months to a year PAID maternity leave, paid pumping breaks all day long, paid time off to take care of all your personal problems.

Equal pay, yes. Forget the rest because it isn't going to happen and I say this as a woman who has three children.

I didn't hear PA's speech, so not sure if you're referring to that or general wage inequality, but you need to get your facts straight.

maternity leave is for BOTH MALE and FEMALE new parents. Not just for the women. that's equality. paid time off for "all your personal problems" I'm assuming you mean child care etc. and sick leave? Again - that's for BOTH MALE AND FEMALE employees. true equality (and equal marriages) typically have both DHs and DWs taking turns taking time off for "personal problems" when kids are sick, etc. That because there's equal pay, equal "power positions" in the workforce, it would be equality when the parents share those pesky "personal problems" when schools are closed, kids are sick, etc.

Get real and really think about true equality before spouting off something like this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it humorous to hear a speech on wage equality come from a person who makes millions.

Are you under the impression that female actresses are paid equally to their male counterparts?

You might want to go back and look through some of the hacked Sony documents.

Actors whether male or female are paid for their box office draw. Patricia Arquette could never carry a film like Benedict Cumverbatch does and would be paid accordingly. That said, I don't think she was referring solely to Hollywood but to jobs where the difference between $80 an hour and $90 an hour is significant rather than the difference between $1 million for a film versus $1.2 million.

No one is comparing Cumberbatch and Arquette. Again, people are allowing themselves to be distracted from the larger point.

In American Hustle, we have 2 female stars with more star power and box-office success than their male counterparts (FAR more, where Jeremy Renner is concerned). Yet the women were paid more than 20% less. So this isn't about star power or box-office success. It isn't about the number of hours worked. It's not about negotiating skill, since the actors aren't negotiating for themselves, but instead rely on attorneys, managers, etc.

Now, ask yourself, why is your reaction that Adams and Lawrence should be thankful they are making millions? Is it because the little women should be thankful they get whatever crumbs they are thrown?

Why is your reaction that they should have taken even LESS, so that lower-wage people below them could make more? And if that IS your reaction, why you aren't saying that Cooper, Bale, and Renner should have taken less so that the lower-wage people below them (ahem, including Adams and Lawrence) could make more?

Perhaps they need to get better attorneys, managers, etc. Perhaps their male counterparts pay their attorneys, managers, etc., more so they work harder for a bigger contract.
There is A LOT we don’t know about how these contracts are formed. Sorry, I am not buying the wage gap argument. And, I am a woman.

Bending pretty far over backwards for that one. Are wage inequalities between races also not based on race?

+1

BTW, ignorant PP who keeps insisting that it is okay for Lawrence and Adams to be paid less: Hollywood managers and agents get percentages, not flat salaries. But nice attempt to rationalize sexism.

Bet you think white privilege is BS, too.