Patricia Arquette's Oscar Speech on Wage Inequality...

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Anonymous wrote:Equal pay is fine, just be prepared for equal treatment. No paid maternity leave and no guarantee your job will be here waiting for you if you take a few weeks off, fair?

A man could not demand that time off, why can a woman?

Of course they can, and do. You have a heart attack and don't get time off? Really? BS.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it humorous to hear a speech on wage equality come from a person who makes millions.

Are you under the impression that female actresses are paid equally to their male counterparts?

You might want to go back and look through some of the hacked Sony documents.

Actors whether male or female are paid for their box office draw. Patricia Arquette could never carry a film like Benedict Cumverbatch does and would be paid accordingly. That said, I don't think she was referring solely to Hollywood but to jobs where the difference between $80 an hour and $90 an hour is significant rather than the difference between $1 million for a film versus $1.2 million.

No one is comparing Cumberbatch and Arquette. Again, people are allowing themselves to be distracted from the larger point.

In American Hustle, we have 2 female stars with more star power and box-office success than their male counterparts (FAR more, where Jeremy Renner is concerned). Yet the women were paid more than 20% less. So this isn't about star power or box-office success. It isn't about the number of hours worked. It's not about negotiating skill, since the actors aren't negotiating for themselves, but instead rely on attorneys, managers, etc.

Now, ask yourself, why is your reaction that Adams and Lawrence should be thankful they are making millions? Is it because the little women should be thankful they get whatever crumbs they are thrown?

Why is your reaction that they should have taken even LESS, so that lower-wage people below them could make more? And if that IS your reaction, why you aren't saying that Cooper, Bale, and Renner should have taken less so that the lower-wage people below them (ahem, including Adams and Lawrence) could make more?

Sorry, neither Lawrence nor Adams have more box office draw than Christian Bale. And it is debatable whether their draw was equivalent to Bradley Coopers. Lawrence has always been in an ensemble cast of other stars. Bale has been the star in many films.

She's the dang star of hunger games! I don't care if its not your thing- for many people Batman is not their thing either- but you can't deny that its a star maker.

And he was the dang star of Termination Salvation , Reign of Fire, American Psycho,Batman, and Empire of the Sun. He won an Oscar before she did. No one has denied that Lawrence is currently the it girl, but other than the first Hunger Game, why had she done prior to American Hustler that's noteworthy?

How about the Oscar nomination she got before Hunger Games? And I've never heard of "Termination Salvation" or "Reign of Fire". And wasn't American Psycho and Empire of the Sun in the 80s? I mean, really. You are so biased you can't even see straight.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it humorous to hear a speech on wage equality come from a person who makes millions.

Are you under the impression that female actresses are paid equally to their male counterparts?

You might want to go back and look through some of the hacked Sony documents.

Actors whether male or female are paid for their box office draw. Patricia Arquette could never carry a film like Benedict Cumverbatch does and would be paid accordingly. That said, I don't think she was referring solely to Hollywood but to jobs where the difference between $80 an hour and $90 an hour is significant rather than the difference between $1 million for a film versus $1.2 million.

No one is comparing Cumberbatch and Arquette. Again, people are allowing themselves to be distracted from the larger point.

In American Hustle, we have 2 female stars with more star power and box-office success than their male counterparts (FAR more, where Jeremy Renner is concerned). Yet the women were paid more than 20% less. So this isn't about star power or box-office success. It isn't about the number of hours worked. It's not about negotiating skill, since the actors aren't negotiating for themselves, but instead rely on attorneys, managers, etc.

Now, ask yourself, why is your reaction that Adams and Lawrence should be thankful they are making millions? Is it because the little women should be thankful they get whatever crumbs they are thrown?

Why is your reaction that they should have taken even LESS, so that lower-wage people below them could make more? And if that IS your reaction, why you aren't saying that Cooper, Bale, and Renner should have taken less so that the lower-wage people below them (ahem, including Adams and Lawrence) could make more?

Sorry, neither Lawrence nor Adams have more box office draw than Christian Bale. And it is debatable whether their draw was equivalent to Bradley Coopers. Lawrence has always been in an ensemble cast of other stars. Bale has been the star in many films.

She's the dang star of hunger games! I don't care if its not your thing- for many people Batman is not their thing either- but you can't deny that its a star maker.

And he was the dang star of Termination Salvation , Reign of Fire, American Psycho,Batman, and Empire of the Sun. He won an Oscar before she did. No one has denied that Lawrence is currently the it girl, but other than the first Hunger Game, why had she done prior to American Hustler that's noteworthy?

How about the Oscar nomination she got before Hunger Games? And I've never heard of "Termination Salvation" or "Reign of Fire". And wasn't American Psycho and Empire of the Sun in the 80s? I mean, really. You are so biased you can't even see straight.

If you've not heard of TS you obviously reside under a rock. Just becuae you live under a rock and rarely come out does not mean others are as unaware or informed as you. I guess you did not know that he earned an Oscar in 2010 for "The Figjter". Like A Silver Lining, it was a critically acclaimed movie, but not mega box office. The negotiations for American Hustle was over and production already underway at the time of Lawrence's Oscar win. Therefore, there was no Oscar in play to sweeten her negotiations. And Yes, Hunger games was extremely successful, but that one movie receipts could not be compared with two Batman blockbusters along with TS blockbuster success.

BTW, I person think that Amy Adams I a much better actress than Lawrence with a longer range. Unfortunately, I can only think of critically acclaimed movies she starred in, and no blockbusters. I believe that when negotiations those salaries, much has to do with who can pull in the audience to pay those high ticket prices.

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Exactly. The sad fact is wage inequality is happening t every level.

Wage gap is a myth:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html

Also, women in their 20s are outearning men

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/02/24/childless-women-in-their-twenties-out-earn-men-so/

That's because more women in their 20s have college degrees than men in their 20s do.