Can "bad" schools get better?

[Anonymous]

If all the rich white people did not feel the need to either remain in or flee to Bethesda, Chevy Chase or Potomac, there would be more even test scores and SES, racial balance among MCPS-it is basically a system of haves and have nots-which makes it suck across the board.

[Anonymous]

I once saw a study (not recent) that calculated the reationship between farms rate and SAT scores. So for each change in FARMS/SAT scores would change X percent (can't recall) with equal resources etc. Using this equation the researchers could adjust for the effect of wealth seperate from quality of education. Which MCPS came out with the highest adjusted scores? Wheaton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If all the rich white people did not feel the need to either remain in or flee to Bethesda, Chevy Chase or Potomac, there would be more even test scores and SES, racial balance among MCPS-it is basically a system of haves and have nots-which makes it suck across the board.

It's called PGPS!

Just kidding people, just kidding...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don't mean "the performance of MCPS can be maintained." You mean "the test scores of MCPS students can be maintained." Given that test scores strongly correlate with SES, it's an open question whether MCPS truly was a better school system in those halcyon, long-past days when everybody was white, middle-class, and suburban, than it is now, when many students aren't.

Open Q for you, not for many.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I don't think I'm the only one who considers it an open question.

In any case, the county is no longer homogeneously white, middle-class, and suburban, and even if those were the good old days, I don't see much point in yearning for them.

[Anonymous]

The "poor"minority schools suck because they have unmotivated, underacheivers (along with high crime and drug use). The "rich" schools suck because they have ovely competitive, overachieivers (along with a strong sense of entitlement, materialism, snobbery and drug use). The key to a good school is true balance and true diversity.

[Anonymous]

Aren't designer drugs safer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren't designer drugs safer

No. Don't be misled by their tiny little labels or logos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don't mean "the performance of MCPS can be maintained." You mean "the test scores of MCPS students can be maintained." Given that test scores strongly correlate with SES, it's an open question whether MCPS truly was a better school system in those halcyon, long-past days when everybody was white, middle-class, and suburban, than it is now, when many students aren't.

Open Q for you, not for many.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I don't think I'm the only one who considers it an open question.

In any case, the county is no longer homogeneously white, middle-class, and suburban, and even if those were the good old days, I don't see much point in yearning for them.[/quote]

PP here - I agree with your last point. Whether people consider the changing dynamics of MCPS an open question or not is irrelevant to many families. What they need to understand, howeer, is how the MCPS as a whole is changing and make informed decisions they feel comfortable with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If all the rich white people did not feel the need to either remain in or flee to Bethesda, Chevy Chase or Potomac, there would be more even test scores and SES, racial balance among MCPS-it is basically a system of haves and have nots-which makes it suck across the board.

Yes, and this is directly attributable to the housing policies in MoCo. Little socioeconomic diversity in housing = little socioeconomic diversity in schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all the rich white people did not feel the need to either remain in or flee to Bethesda, Chevy Chase or Potomac, there would be more even test scores and SES, racial balance among MCPS-it is basically a system of haves and have nots-which makes it suck across the board.

Yes, and this is directly attributable to the housing policies in MoCo. Little socioeconomic diversity in housing = little socioeconomic diversity in schools.

Yet schools like Gaithersburg and Magruder do have million dollar plus homes that feed into them-I guess just not enough given all the lower income apartments that feed into them as well. Same with Rockville and Einstein-all of these schools have the potential to be great and are in great locations in terms of commuting into the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all the rich white people did not feel the need to either remain in or flee to Bethesda, Chevy Chase or Potomac, there would be more even test scores and SES, racial balance among MCPS-it is basically a system of haves and have nots-which makes it suck across the board.

Yes, and this is directly attributable to the housing policies in MoCo. Little socioeconomic diversity in housing = little socioeconomic diversity in schools.

Yet schools like Gaithersburg and Magruder do have million dollar plus homes that feed into them-I guess just not enough given all the lower income apartments that feed into them as well. Same with Rockville and Einstein-all of these schools have the potential to be great and are in great locations in terms of commuting into the city.

Not enough for what?

[Anonymous]

^ overall SES status of the school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all the rich white people did not feel the need to either remain in or flee to Bethesda, Chevy Chase or Potomac, there would be more even test scores and SES, racial balance among MCPS-it is basically a system of haves and have nots-which makes it suck across the board.

Yes, and this is directly attributable to the housing policies in MoCo. Little socioeconomic diversity in housing = little socioeconomic diversity in schools.

Yet schools like Gaithersburg and Magruder do have million dollar plus homes that feed into them-I guess just not enough given all the lower income apartments that feed into them as well. Same with Rockville and Einstein-all of these schools have the potential to be great and are in great locations in terms of commuting into the city.

Not enough for what?[/quote]


Not enough higher income homes feeding into them-all the low income apartments bring down the schools.

[Anonymous]

The sad thing is that a $400-500,000 dollar home in a decent school district in this area is basically a shitshack if it even exists at all. If you go to Vermont, or Texas, or Georgia you can have a huge lovely home with great schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The sad thing is that a $400-500,000 dollar home in a decent school district in this area is basically a shitshack if it even exists at all. If you go to Vermont, or Texas, or Georgia you can have a huge lovely home with great schools.

Yes. That is because there are fewer people with money who want to live there.