Can "bad" schools get better?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a school in another state that would likely compare to Blair in many ways-Great AP program, Med-science program with lots of smart kids. One kid got a full scholarship to Harvard, many went on to college, while many others did drugs, while some others dropped out.

I posted this and forgot to say that I want better for my kid-Blair is good only due to the magnet-Whitman is good because of the student body, as is Sherwood and the other W schools. Political correctedness aside, poor minority populations bring down a school and there is no doubt that is a fact!

So, if they were all poor but white, they wouldn't bring down the school? So, the problem is "colored people"?

This is actually an interesting question that I would love to get an answer to. I googled it and again, everything was "the achievement gap between low income and minority students vs. middle income whites," "gap between poor minorities and whites persists" and stuff like that. There doesn't seem to be many studies controlling for SES. Of course we know that low income minorities perform worse than upper income whites, but it would be interesting to see the results of a study that compared low income whites to low income minorities.

Of course, in this area (well, this country actually) poor and minority tend to go hand in hand, and white and wealthy go hand in hand. The wealthiest schools have the highest white populations, the poorest have the lowest white populations.

but then there's the Violence Gap. more exposure to violence or guns in the home or in family incidents equals more violence. Check the data if the Violence Gap correlates with white, black, brown, Hispanic.

[Anonymous]

You made that term up, and as usual, you're not funny.

https://www.google.com/search?q=violence+gap&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

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but then there's the Violence Gap. more exposure to violence or guns in the home or in family incidents equals more violence. Check the data if the Violence Gap correlates with white, black, brown, Hispanic.

The "violence gap"? So some demographic groups are insufficiently violent -- is that what you're saying?

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Anonymous wrote:You made that term up, and as usual, you're not funny.

https://www.google.com/search?q=violence+gap&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

what is and isn't funny is that the NIH did a study on the racial and ethnic "violence gap."

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Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

OP, when the PPs say, "MCPS's good days are behind us," what they mean is: the population of Montgomery County is becoming less white, less affluent, and less native-born.

Well hate to burst your bubble but less white, less affluent, less native born = lower test scores, more resources used on FARMS, ESL, and less attention your average kid is going to get in the classroom. It also equals more crime, higher taxes and a decrease in real estate prices. So you can cry racism but MC has a lot to be concerned about that more affluent white people are leaving (7% decrease since 2000) and the increase in poor hispanics is 3x the amount since 1995. SES makes a big difference in a school district and community.

OMG! Are you that same crazy ass white lady who asked the Sligo middle school principal if there was white flight in Silver Spring?
And this was at an ES PTA meeting!
Even the white folk looked at her line she was crazy!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

OP, when the PPs say, "MCPS's good days are behind us," what they mean is: the population of Montgomery County is becoming less white, less affluent, and less native-born.

Well hate to burst your bubble but less white, less affluent, less native born = lower test scores, more resources used on FARMS, ESL, and less attention your average kid is going to get in the classroom. It also equals more crime, higher taxes and a decrease in real estate prices. So you can cry racism but MC has a lot to be concerned about that more affluent white people are leaving (7% decrease since 2000) and the increase in poor hispanics is 3x the amount since 1995. SES makes a big difference in a school district and community.

OMG! Are you that same crazy ass white lady who asked the Sligo middle school principal if there was white flight in Silver Spring?
And this was at an ES PTA meeting!
Even the white folk looked at her line she was crazy!!!

I was at that meeting too! (Not the pp). That was a crazy moment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

OP, when the PPs say, "MCPS's good days are behind us," what they mean is: the population of Montgomery County is becoming less white, less affluent, and less native-born.

Well hate to burst your bubble but less white, less affluent, less native born = lower test scores, more resources used on FARMS, ESL, and less attention your average kid is going to get in the classroom. It also equals more crime, higher taxes and a decrease in real estate prices. So you can cry racism but MC has a lot to be concerned about that more affluent white people are leaving (7% decrease since 2000) and the increase in poor hispanics is 3x the amount since 1995. SES makes a big difference in a school district and community.

OMG! Are you that same crazy ass white lady who asked the Sligo middle school principal if there was white flight in Silver Spring?
And this was at an ES PTA meeting!
Even the white folk looked at her line she was crazy!!!

I was at that meeting too! (Not the pp). That was a crazy moment.

What the hell was her point and what was the principal supposed to do about it, start a get the white people back campaign??
WTF????

[Anonymous]

I hear there is "white flight" in all of MoCo-folks are relocating to HoCo for better schools and a more "white" experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hear there is "white flight" in all of MoCo-folks are relocating to HoCo for better schools and a more "white" experience.

That's no news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hear there is "white flight" in all of MoCo-folks are relocating to HoCo for better schools and a more "white" experience.

Goodbye to them then

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hear there is "white flight" in all of MoCo-folks are relocating to HoCo for better schools and a more "white" experience.

Goodbye to them then

some of you maybe old enough to remember what happened to PG county many years ago as whites started to leave - it became PG of today.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear there is "white flight" in all of MoCo-folks are relocating to HoCo for better schools and a more "white" experience.

Goodbye to them then

some of you maybe old enough to remember what happened to PG county many years ago as whites started to leave - it became PG of today.

Some of us are also old enough to remember that American society in 2014 is quite different, in many ways, from American society in 1975.

Also, I suspect that many people who say "OMG PG COUNTY!!1!!1" have never actually set foot in Prince George's County.

[Anonymous]

I used to live in PG county. I don't miss it.

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Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

OP, when the PPs say, "MCPS's good days are behind us," what they mean is: the population of Montgomery County is becoming less white, less affluent, and less native-born.

Well hate to burst your bubble but less white, less affluent, less native born = lower test scores, more resources used on FARMS, ESL, and less attention your average kid is going to get in the classroom. It also equals more crime, higher taxes and a decrease in real estate prices. So you can cry racism but MC has a lot to be concerned about that more affluent white people are leaving (7% decrease since 2000) and the increase in poor hispanics is 3x the amount since 1995. SES makes a big difference in a school district and community.

OMG! Are you that same crazy ass white lady who asked the Sligo middle school principal if there was white flight in Silver Spring?
And this was at an ES PTA meeting!
Even the white folk looked at her line she was crazy!!!

I was at that meeting too! (Not the pp). That was a crazy moment.

What the hell was her point and what was the principal supposed to do about it, start a get the white people back campaign??
WTF????

I know that other parents followed up with the principal afterwards to ask what he thought her point was. As I understood it, she wanted to know if people were going to private school instea of Sligo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hear there is "white flight" in all of MoCo-folks are relocating to HoCo for better schools and a more "white" experience.

Howard County is too far, and the parts that aren't a devastating commute are no better than MoCo. I'd move to NoVa before HoCo.